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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

 

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21 Mar 2020
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I went to the post office today to get some U.S. stamps on piece that had been through the mail but not cancelled postmarked for a friend in Canada who collects used U.S. The young woman at the counter said "we are not allowed to cancel and return stamps"..i guess she never heard of F.D.C.s. I said "ok i will come back when someone i know is working". I will avoid Saturday from now on...thats when the newbies are working.
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21 Mar 2020
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21 Mar 2020
01:50:49pm

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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Thank you Michael you are always on the ball. Seems like some postal clerks are not doing their job cancelling the mail.

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21 Mar 2020
02:27:19pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Perhaps the clerks would rather not be doing hand-backs during the current situation.
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21 Mar 2020
03:05:34pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

I carry a printout of the USPS handback rules as well.

I've had to use it many times in the past.

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21 Mar 2020
03:22:30pm

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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Its a shame, i don't like to play lawyer and tell people their jobs.

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21 Mar 2020
03:49:33pm
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I think that Don's point is a valid one. If I were postal clerk I would probably feel the same way.

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21 Mar 2020
06:40:03pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

I agree - Don's point is valid in today's environment.

However, my experiences with this were well before the occurrence of the pandemic.

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21 Mar 2020
09:11:47pm
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On Friday, I was at my post office. There was a new employee at the counter. I asked her to cancel the stamps on a shipment for me. She asked me how she was supposed to do that. (For some reason I have to train all the new clerks.) I told her to use the canceller. She did so. She then asked me, "Would you like me to mail it for you too?" I told her I would, thanked her, and left. Confused

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21 Mar 2020
09:16:54pm
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Isn't training wonderful.

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21 Mar 2020
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We may be over qualified for the job with USPS !

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21 Mar 2020
10:58:59pm
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I get told all the time that when a change is coming, or new issue, they say that they ask me first before their managers, because I know more about what the post office is doing and I know it before they get told from USPS headquarters.

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22 Mar 2020
10:15:14am
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Phil:

Thanks for helping me out!

All:

What happened? Our collective society has become rude, obnoxious, and stupid. Really stupid.

Last year, one of my customers came back to Canada, from a vacation in Iceland. The Customs Officer wanted to know why he had $100 in Icelandic stamps. He told him he was a stamp collector. The stupid idiot of a Customs Officer did not understand the concept of stamp collecting.

Proof once again that the average government employee in Canada could not work in private industry because they are too stupid. The rule in Ottawa (in private industry) is NEVER hire a former civil servant, unless they were a member of the Armed Forces, in uniform.

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22 Mar 2020
11:24:29am

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David,getting unused stamps cancelled for you is a minor detail compared to what you have done for us...introducing us to the Ottawa world of stamp collecting and the many friends like Dick Logan and many others who always ask "are your coming up this year?" Sadly this will be a "skip year" but we will be back.

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22 Mar 2020
12:09:33pm
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Phil:

Yup... so we miss a year of ORAPEX.

I am glad I can work from home and I have my stamps to keep me occupied. Think of those poor folks without a hobby!

Suddenly, collecting stamps doesn't seem so nerdy. Big Grin

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Tom in Exton, PA

22 Mar 2020
12:16:05pm

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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

As a collector of New Jersey cancels that does an occasional road trip of a dozen or so post offices I run into this all the time. I carry the postal regulation called “Cooperation With Collectors” and that works in most situations. Still I have run across a couple of real idiots and left without my cancel.

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22 Mar 2020
12:19:12pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

"The stupid idiot of a Customs Officer..."



"Our collective society has become rude, obnoxious..."




....???


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22 Mar 2020
12:24:39pm
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"I am glad I can work from home and I have my stamps to keep me occupied. Think of those poor folks without a hobby!"



Well, I'll tell you about those without a hobby...check back in 9 months after the quarantines are lifted. You'll see the results of what they did when they got bored!
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22 Mar 2020
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For a while I thought that I had overstocked , my Bedroom being full of boxes with collections.Shortly before this Virus I bought another 4 collections etc.Now I am very glad I did. I got enough stamps to look at to last me for a couple of years, the fridge is full the cupboard is stacked with tins and dry stuff and flour etc.50 litres of water, various tins of milk and milk powder and so on. I can hold out a while;and I got enough toilette paper to keep a cow happy.

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22 Mar 2020
05:01:35pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

"... check back in 9 months after the quarantines are lifted ..."



The food pantries will be overrun with canned beans (etc) when folks unload all that stuff they hoarded ... while they continued to live on take-out.

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22 Mar 2020
07:42:37pm
re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

That's not exactly what I was referring to.

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23 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Michael nine months...could that refer to people repopulating the planet ?

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23 Mar 2020
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BINGO.

And when those babies become teenagers, their generation will be known as "Quarenteens".

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21 Mar 2020
10:27:37am

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I went to the post office today to get some U.S. stamps on piece that had been through the mail but not cancelled postmarked for a friend in Canada who collects used U.S. The young woman at the counter said "we are not allowed to cancel and return stamps"..i guess she never heard of F.D.C.s. I said "ok i will come back when someone i know is working". I will avoid Saturday from now on...thats when the newbies are working.

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21 Mar 2020
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I've eMailed you a copy of the PDF, and will do the same for anyone who PMs.

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21 Mar 2020
01:50:49pm

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Thank you Michael you are always on the ball. Seems like some postal clerks are not doing their job cancelling the mail.

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21 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Perhaps the clerks would rather not be doing hand-backs during the current situation.
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21 Mar 2020
03:05:34pm

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I carry a printout of the USPS handback rules as well.

I've had to use it many times in the past.

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21 Mar 2020
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Its a shame, i don't like to play lawyer and tell people their jobs.

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21 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

I think that Don's point is a valid one. If I were postal clerk I would probably feel the same way.

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21 Mar 2020
06:40:03pm

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

I agree - Don's point is valid in today's environment.

However, my experiences with this were well before the occurrence of the pandemic.

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21 Mar 2020
09:11:47pm

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

On Friday, I was at my post office. There was a new employee at the counter. I asked her to cancel the stamps on a shipment for me. She asked me how she was supposed to do that. (For some reason I have to train all the new clerks.) I told her to use the canceller. She did so. She then asked me, "Would you like me to mail it for you too?" I told her I would, thanked her, and left. Confused

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21 Mar 2020
09:16:54pm

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Isn't training wonderful.

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21 Mar 2020
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We may be over qualified for the job with USPS !

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21 Mar 2020
10:58:59pm

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

I get told all the time that when a change is coming, or new issue, they say that they ask me first before their managers, because I know more about what the post office is doing and I know it before they get told from USPS headquarters.

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22 Mar 2020
10:15:14am

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

Phil:

Thanks for helping me out!

All:

What happened? Our collective society has become rude, obnoxious, and stupid. Really stupid.

Last year, one of my customers came back to Canada, from a vacation in Iceland. The Customs Officer wanted to know why he had $100 in Icelandic stamps. He told him he was a stamp collector. The stupid idiot of a Customs Officer did not understand the concept of stamp collecting.

Proof once again that the average government employee in Canada could not work in private industry because they are too stupid. The rule in Ottawa (in private industry) is NEVER hire a former civil servant, unless they were a member of the Armed Forces, in uniform.

David

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22 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

David,getting unused stamps cancelled for you is a minor detail compared to what you have done for us...introducing us to the Ottawa world of stamp collecting and the many friends like Dick Logan and many others who always ask "are your coming up this year?" Sadly this will be a "skip year" but we will be back.

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22 Mar 2020
12:09:33pm

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Phil:

Yup... so we miss a year of ORAPEX.

I am glad I can work from home and I have my stamps to keep me occupied. Think of those poor folks without a hobby!

Suddenly, collecting stamps doesn't seem so nerdy. Big Grin

David

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Tom in Exton, PA
22 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

As a collector of New Jersey cancels that does an occasional road trip of a dozen or so post offices I run into this all the time. I carry the postal regulation called “Cooperation With Collectors” and that works in most situations. Still I have run across a couple of real idiots and left without my cancel.

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22 Mar 2020
12:19:12pm

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

"The stupid idiot of a Customs Officer..."



"Our collective society has become rude, obnoxious..."




....???


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22 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

"I am glad I can work from home and I have my stamps to keep me occupied. Think of those poor folks without a hobby!"



Well, I'll tell you about those without a hobby...check back in 9 months after the quarantines are lifted. You'll see the results of what they did when they got bored!
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22 Mar 2020
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re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

For a while I thought that I had overstocked , my Bedroom being full of boxes with collections.Shortly before this Virus I bought another 4 collections etc.Now I am very glad I did. I got enough stamps to look at to last me for a couple of years, the fridge is full the cupboard is stacked with tins and dry stuff and flour etc.50 litres of water, various tins of milk and milk powder and so on. I can hold out a while;and I got enough toilette paper to keep a cow happy.

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22 Mar 2020
05:01:35pm

re: post office clerk not allowed to cancel and return ?

"... check back in 9 months after the quarantines are lifted ..."



The food pantries will be overrun with canned beans (etc) when folks unload all that stuff they hoarded ... while they continued to live on take-out.

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22 Mar 2020
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23 Mar 2020
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Michael nine months...could that refer to people repopulating the planet ?

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23 Mar 2020
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BINGO.

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