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1) Soaking (no matter how long) does not allow the stamp to float freely from the paper.
2) When you attempt to remove the paper from the gum side - no matter how carefully - it either leaves the stamp without any backing and thinner than a razor, or the stamp just easily tears.
3) The colouring on the face of the stamp often deteriorates.
I find this especially distressing when dealing with high FV stamps. Here's the latest example from GB...paper still clinging to the back and the face side damaged.
I'm thinking of just closely trimming the paper and displaying/offering them as "on piece" to preserve them. I'm also looking for advice on what others are doing to remove the stamp from the envelope safely.
Thoughts? Ideas?
Many thanks, Dave.
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Dave,
I know others use things like Pure Citrus to remove the stubborn self-adhesives but I just trim them neatly (leaving 1-2 mm of surrounding paper) and put them in my album or use them for trading.
Soaking older stamps has become a fun activity- something that brings back good memories of collecting as a beginner way back when. It's just too time consuming and fussy nowadays to mess with the newer stamps - and very frustrating and sad when a good one gets damaged (like your picture above).
Sally
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I would recommend collecting self-adhesive with security cuts on paper based upon read elsewhere. The security cuts may also pose a challenge.
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As mentioned elsewhere
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Sadly the pure citrus is not available in Canada, nor is Bestine.
I just cut around the stamps as others have said. I try not to collect them on the red/green envelope paper.
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Available online on Ebay:https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pure-Citrus-NA228-Orange-All-Natural-Non-Aerosol-Odor-Eliminator-4-fl-oz-1-PK/183199224539
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I have one can of pure citrus that a friend in the States mailed to me. It smells wonderful & works great on self adhesive stamps and baked on crud on the bottom of loaf pans from 20 years ago!
It baffles me as to why it isn't available in Canada as there is nothing harmful in it.
It is amazing!
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I had literally the same poor results...
So now I'm trimming around the stamp as mentioned.
***sigh!***
JR
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I use Pure Citrus. It works really well. We do have to pop across the border into the US to get it, but my daughter's in-laws live in Tennessee and she goes down to see them every year and brings back a half dozen cans. One can will do a lot. We usually only use about 1 1/2 cans a year. It does cost about $5.00 US funds though. It is worth every penny. Oh you can only get it at a US Home Depot.
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"Oh you can only get it at a US Home Depot."
Why? Canadian Tire should carry Pure Citrus!
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12:03:35pm
Try a five or ten minute bath in small jar of 70% rubbing alcohol,
followed by a dip in fresh water. It cures most problems (n0t all)
and i see no effect on the color. Even a majority of the nasty
Australian SA stamps respond.
I've been using it for many years, starting with British Wildings
and Norway's Posthorns seeking water marks.
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Don't forget GooGone! It works as well as Pure Citrus but takes a lot longer. Also plastic gloves and eye protection is a must. 10 stamps will consume 20 to 30 minutes. Pure Citrus is the best option.
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Bestine is available thru art supplies - Currys in Halifax, Toronto
Citrus products in your grocer - air freshener section
machin adhesives are layered papers so allow time to separate, and be careful with tongs. especially around ovals...
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Charlie, aren't the newer Machins designed to come apart with the internal die cuts? Dave, I wouldn't soak them at all, because of the results you had.
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" '''' designed to come apart with the internal die cuts? ''''"
Thusly designed .... Yes.
If handled roughly, Probably.
However, after a few minutes in the isopropenol,
if they are handled very gently like a reluctant
virgin, things work out quite well. Less than
1 in 10 come apart. Probably less than 1 in 20
or so. It just requires a gentle, patient hand.
About a week or two ago I received a parcel from
Scotland and all four pound values have now been
removed from the brown kraft paper of the wrap-
-ing and now sit calmly in a 102 card awaiting
a close inspection for varieties.
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I have not had the challenge to deal with since 99% of my security machins are Mint so still on liner and no desire to remove them. The used ones I do have were in a collection and most look rough.
What characteristics cannot be determined still on liner or envelope? I do not go deeper than SG concise for these.
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"It seems as though these countries (there may be more) want to keep people from collecting their stamps"
No, but they prefer that you collect them unused. More profit for them in that!
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Dave,
Use simple rubbing alcohol. Apply it on the back of the envelope clipping and as soon as it penetrates through the paper carefully peel off the stamp, paying special attention to those 2 security ovals. Once off paper, you can affix the stamp on whatever backing you like.
If the paper does not come off cleanly and you have a mess on the back of the stamp, just put some more alcohol with the q-tip and carefully scrape the paper off.
I wouldn't worry too much over a GB machine. They are common stamps.
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I bought the Pure Citrus but it seems like too much trouble, at least I haven't had the energy to try it yet. I've just been using it around the house! I would tend to go with trimming on paper. And I agree with Anglophile, the modern issues aren't going to be worth much anyway?
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" .... Almost no modern self-adhesives ever will be valuable ...."
1920, "All these George Washington and Tom Jefferson stamps
will never be valuable, they are too common and far too much
trouble squinting at watermarks."
1935 "No sense in worrying about those high priced German stamps,
soon there will be Zeppelins all over the world. Besides Hitler
is just a passing fad."
!990s These "Face on Mars" sheetlets will never be worth anything
at all. Better to stock up with Elvis Presley sheets."
I am keeping my tongue tightly held against my inner cheek.
4/21/20 Correction.
Inadvertently the italicized phrase got left out
when I posted that priceless comment.
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It will be interesting to see how self-adhesives on liner/paper age over the years. It may be the used ones removed from the backing that will last the longest or be in better collectible condition.
But I do not like them (US) either since if you like mint you are often forced to purchase whole sheets and do not separately easily.
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" if you like mint "
I find it extremely puzzling that some people still collect mint US stamps, or UK and Canada for that matter.
You hardly sell any of those post 1940 stamps over face value, but back then a domestic letter rate was 3 cents. Now you are looking at almost $1 for the same service. They have depreciated 30 times or more.
Why would people continue to make the same mistake 80 years later?
I imagine some of us view stamps not so much as an investment but as a habit, like smoking cigarettes.
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"I find it extremely puzzling that some people still collect mint US stamps, or UK and Canada for that matter."
Collect what you like is my motto and don't be influenced by others
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I couldn't find Pure Citrus locally, so used a product carried by WalMart called GooGone. It worked fairly well but took a long soak time to free the stamps from the paper. I gave up on it the past year when it failed to work adequately on the most recent German and British self-adhesives.
Went into Amazon and found 100% D-Limonene for sale. It is the active ingredient in Pure Citrus. Compared to the GooGone, it works about 1000% better. It works well on the recent German and British self-adhesives, even the ones with the die-cuts within the stamps. After about a day of drying, I dust the back with talc powder and the stamp is ready to be stored or mounted.
I did try to go the cheap route first, finding a gallon-sized container of something that was sold as citrus solvent in WalMart. Thought that I had found a goldmine (very inexpensive solvent for removing self-adhesive stamps). I tried it on a self-adhesive French commemorative and it appeared to work well. So I got overly ambitious, poured about an inch depth of this solvent into a small shallow pan and added a whole handful of French self-adhesive commemoratives into pan. The stamps separated from the papar almost immediately, but the solvent also removed the printed design from the stamp paper! Ended up being a big waste of time and stamps. And now I have nearly a gallon of this solvent where I don't know a proper disposal method.
As far as recent stamps are concerned, I think the used versions will start to increase in price as the years go by. The print totals are so much smaller than in past years, no one is saving them as in past years (everyone collected full sheets of the three cent to five cent commemorates back in the day because they thought they would increase greatly in price over time - big mistake). Try to find a nicely canceled used stamp on recent mailings; most are either heavily canceled or not canceled at all if you can even find any mailing with a stamp attached. But it is also going to require collectors willing to collect used stamps.
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" n.... And now I have nearly a gallon of this solvent where I don't know a proper disposal method ...."
What ever you do, do not flush it in your toilet, especially
if you have your own well. At one time auto service stations
or repair shops were paid a few cents a gallon for waste oil
from changing the oil of autos and trucks Then that oil began
to cost the shops to be removed. I do not know where the
pendulum is now, but with some speculators paying to unload
excess virgin oil things are probably different. Some towns
will have a pickup station for waste oils and other POL products
at a fire house or recycling center.
Just do not put it in the water supply.
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Did you mean septic system rather than s well? But then you have to shock a well with several gallons of bleach when new or gets contaminated....
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I have very oily skin so have to clean my glasses constantly. It struck me at 2:00 am (!) that maybe my glasses cleaner could be useful for those pesky stamps. So I tried it, and it worked great. Here's the one I have, unfortunately no contents are listed but it seems to have some alcohol in it and a soapy solution that smells of citrus (like our lemon dish soap). I'm assuming most such products would be "sort of" the same.
The caveat is to only spray the back side of the stamp where the envelope paper is - and you can start to peel it off quickly - leaving the stamp and the backing intact. I found that when I also sprayed the front of the stamp, the stamp itself began to come apart from the backing and wrecked it.
I also used it on some Victoria-era GB stamps that were heavily hinged with whatever homemade heavy surgical tape or sticky paper they used for hinges "back in the day"! In this case, I sprayed a q-tip and applied it. With a bit of gentle rubbing (in one direction only - from the middle of the stamp to the top) I could easily (but VERY gently!) pull off the "hinge" in short order then use a clean q-tip to clean up any remaining glue.
Give it a try and let's hear your story!
Dave.
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Another solution............
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Are you saying that if a stamp has backing - i.e. envelope - paper on it,
you would just torch it???
Well, I suppose if you did that enough times, it might raise the value of
the ones I KEEP.
Torch away!!
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Granted, it's a radical solution, but I truly do detest self-adhesives. I don't bother with them at all, they're neither soaked nor incinerated, just ignored.
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"You hardly sell any of those post 1940 stamps over face value, but back then a domestic letter rate was 3 cents. Now you are looking at almost $1 for the same service. They have depreciated 30 times or more."
That's a good argument to collect coins instead of stamps - up until Forever stamps came along.
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" ....Did you mean septic system rather than s well? But then you have to shock a well with several gallons of bleach when new or gets contaminated....."
That is an interesting point. I guess I have had my own well
and an efficient septic system on my properties for so long
I forgot that you city-slickers get chemically enhanced water
and public sewerage service.
I meant well, but by adding a little phrase can clarify.
".... What ever you do, do not flush it in your toilet,
(to your septic system) especially if you have your own
well, drawing water from the pure water in the Florida
aquifer or the Texas Ogalalla aquifer. ...." The water
beneath most large cities is usually contaminated by careless
entry of waste water from humans.
And remember virtually every drop of pure water was likely
processed by a Sauropod at least once, even the water that
makes up over 50% of our human bodies.
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I mentioned it because we have a well and septic system (no city services here and really do not want them). You need to limit what you put down the drain to not interfere with the natural reaction in the septic system. In our county the the well has to be 100 ft away from septic and you do not want anything from septic (natural or otherwise) contaminating the well.
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04:04:20am
Absolutely !
And in some areas a septic tank has to be some
measurable distance from the property line and
any neighbors house or well . There might also
be some restriction when a house is on sloping
land that presents someone from hoping that for
them, water will run uphill.
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For you Canadians out there, Coin Stamp Supplies, a division of Trajan Media, regularly advertises Bestine in “Canadian Stamp News,” also owned by Trajan. I don’t know how to post a link that will take you directly to the page, but you can cut and paste this:
https://coinstampsupplies.com/?s=bestine
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Bestine, subject to recall notice as follows from the website.
On December 9, 2019, we received notice from Speedball Art Products Company that they were voluntarily recalling the Bestine Solvent and Thinner Products. In a statement the company wrote:
“It has been brought to our attention by Health Canada that our Bestine Solvent & Thinner Products are not compliant with Canadian regulations due to improper labeling including missing CCCR, 2001 hazard symbols and no French language warnings. As such, Speedball is recalling the following Bestine products in Canada:
Product number Description
238 4 oz Bestine
201 16 oz Bestine
202 32 oz Bestine
203 128 oz Bestine
These products have been removed from our inventory and are not currently available for sale in Canada.
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It seems as though these countries (there may be more) want to keep people from collecting their stamps:
1) Soaking (no matter how long) does not allow the stamp to float freely from the paper.
2) When you attempt to remove the paper from the gum side - no matter how carefully - it either leaves the stamp without any backing and thinner than a razor, or the stamp just easily tears.
3) The colouring on the face of the stamp often deteriorates.
I find this especially distressing when dealing with high FV stamps. Here's the latest example from GB...paper still clinging to the back and the face side damaged.
I'm thinking of just closely trimming the paper and displaying/offering them as "on piece" to preserve them. I'm also looking for advice on what others are doing to remove the stamp from the envelope safely.
Thoughts? Ideas?
Many thanks, Dave.
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
Dave,
I know others use things like Pure Citrus to remove the stubborn self-adhesives but I just trim them neatly (leaving 1-2 mm of surrounding paper) and put them in my album or use them for trading.
Soaking older stamps has become a fun activity- something that brings back good memories of collecting as a beginner way back when. It's just too time consuming and fussy nowadays to mess with the newer stamps - and very frustrating and sad when a good one gets damaged (like your picture above).
Sally
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I would recommend collecting self-adhesive with security cuts on paper based upon read elsewhere. The security cuts may also pose a challenge.
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As mentioned elsewhere
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Sadly the pure citrus is not available in Canada, nor is Bestine.
I just cut around the stamps as others have said. I try not to collect them on the red/green envelope paper.
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Available online on Ebay:https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pure-Citrus-NA228-Orange-All-Natural-Non-Aerosol-Odor-Eliminator-4-fl-oz-1-PK/183199224539
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10:38:57am
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I have one can of pure citrus that a friend in the States mailed to me. It smells wonderful & works great on self adhesive stamps and baked on crud on the bottom of loaf pans from 20 years ago!
It baffles me as to why it isn't available in Canada as there is nothing harmful in it.
It is amazing!
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
I had literally the same poor results...
So now I'm trimming around the stamp as mentioned.
***sigh!***
JR
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
I use Pure Citrus. It works really well. We do have to pop across the border into the US to get it, but my daughter's in-laws live in Tennessee and she goes down to see them every year and brings back a half dozen cans. One can will do a lot. We usually only use about 1 1/2 cans a year. It does cost about $5.00 US funds though. It is worth every penny. Oh you can only get it at a US Home Depot.
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"Oh you can only get it at a US Home Depot."
Why? Canadian Tire should carry Pure Citrus!
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
Try a five or ten minute bath in small jar of 70% rubbing alcohol,
followed by a dip in fresh water. It cures most problems (n0t all)
and i see no effect on the color. Even a majority of the nasty
Australian SA stamps respond.
I've been using it for many years, starting with British Wildings
and Norway's Posthorns seeking water marks.
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Don't forget GooGone! It works as well as Pure Citrus but takes a lot longer. Also plastic gloves and eye protection is a must. 10 stamps will consume 20 to 30 minutes. Pure Citrus is the best option.
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Bestine is available thru art supplies - Currys in Halifax, Toronto
Citrus products in your grocer - air freshener section
machin adhesives are layered papers so allow time to separate, and be careful with tongs. especially around ovals...
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Charlie, aren't the newer Machins designed to come apart with the internal die cuts? Dave, I wouldn't soak them at all, because of the results you had.
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
" '''' designed to come apart with the internal die cuts? ''''"
Thusly designed .... Yes.
If handled roughly, Probably.
However, after a few minutes in the isopropenol,
if they are handled very gently like a reluctant
virgin, things work out quite well. Less than
1 in 10 come apart. Probably less than 1 in 20
or so. It just requires a gentle, patient hand.
About a week or two ago I received a parcel from
Scotland and all four pound values have now been
removed from the brown kraft paper of the wrap-
-ing and now sit calmly in a 102 card awaiting
a close inspection for varieties.
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
I have not had the challenge to deal with since 99% of my security machins are Mint so still on liner and no desire to remove them. The used ones I do have were in a collection and most look rough.
What characteristics cannot be determined still on liner or envelope? I do not go deeper than SG concise for these.
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"It seems as though these countries (there may be more) want to keep people from collecting their stamps"
No, but they prefer that you collect them unused. More profit for them in that!
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Dave,
Use simple rubbing alcohol. Apply it on the back of the envelope clipping and as soon as it penetrates through the paper carefully peel off the stamp, paying special attention to those 2 security ovals. Once off paper, you can affix the stamp on whatever backing you like.
If the paper does not come off cleanly and you have a mess on the back of the stamp, just put some more alcohol with the q-tip and carefully scrape the paper off.
I wouldn't worry too much over a GB machine. They are common stamps.
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I bought the Pure Citrus but it seems like too much trouble, at least I haven't had the energy to try it yet. I've just been using it around the house! I would tend to go with trimming on paper. And I agree with Anglophile, the modern issues aren't going to be worth much anyway?
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
" .... Almost no modern self-adhesives ever will be valuable ...."
1920, "All these George Washington and Tom Jefferson stamps
will never be valuable, they are too common and far too much
trouble squinting at watermarks."
1935 "No sense in worrying about those high priced German stamps,
soon there will be Zeppelins all over the world. Besides Hitler
is just a passing fad."
!990s These "Face on Mars" sheetlets will never be worth anything
at all. Better to stock up with Elvis Presley sheets."
I am keeping my tongue tightly held against my inner cheek.
4/21/20 Correction.
Inadvertently the italicized phrase got left out
when I posted that priceless comment.
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It will be interesting to see how self-adhesives on liner/paper age over the years. It may be the used ones removed from the backing that will last the longest or be in better collectible condition.
But I do not like them (US) either since if you like mint you are often forced to purchase whole sheets and do not separately easily.
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" if you like mint "
I find it extremely puzzling that some people still collect mint US stamps, or UK and Canada for that matter.
You hardly sell any of those post 1940 stamps over face value, but back then a domestic letter rate was 3 cents. Now you are looking at almost $1 for the same service. They have depreciated 30 times or more.
Why would people continue to make the same mistake 80 years later?
I imagine some of us view stamps not so much as an investment but as a habit, like smoking cigarettes.
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"I find it extremely puzzling that some people still collect mint US stamps, or UK and Canada for that matter."
Collect what you like is my motto and don't be influenced by others
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I couldn't find Pure Citrus locally, so used a product carried by WalMart called GooGone. It worked fairly well but took a long soak time to free the stamps from the paper. I gave up on it the past year when it failed to work adequately on the most recent German and British self-adhesives.
Went into Amazon and found 100% D-Limonene for sale. It is the active ingredient in Pure Citrus. Compared to the GooGone, it works about 1000% better. It works well on the recent German and British self-adhesives, even the ones with the die-cuts within the stamps. After about a day of drying, I dust the back with talc powder and the stamp is ready to be stored or mounted.
I did try to go the cheap route first, finding a gallon-sized container of something that was sold as citrus solvent in WalMart. Thought that I had found a goldmine (very inexpensive solvent for removing self-adhesive stamps). I tried it on a self-adhesive French commemorative and it appeared to work well. So I got overly ambitious, poured about an inch depth of this solvent into a small shallow pan and added a whole handful of French self-adhesive commemoratives into pan. The stamps separated from the papar almost immediately, but the solvent also removed the printed design from the stamp paper! Ended up being a big waste of time and stamps. And now I have nearly a gallon of this solvent where I don't know a proper disposal method.
As far as recent stamps are concerned, I think the used versions will start to increase in price as the years go by. The print totals are so much smaller than in past years, no one is saving them as in past years (everyone collected full sheets of the three cent to five cent commemorates back in the day because they thought they would increase greatly in price over time - big mistake). Try to find a nicely canceled used stamp on recent mailings; most are either heavily canceled or not canceled at all if you can even find any mailing with a stamp attached. But it is also going to require collectors willing to collect used stamps.
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re: A SOLUTION??? I am learning to detest more recent US and Great Britain self-adhesives !!!!!
" n.... And now I have nearly a gallon of this solvent where I don't know a proper disposal method ...."
What ever you do, do not flush it in your toilet, especially
if you have your own well. At one time auto service stations
or repair shops were paid a few cents a gallon for waste oil
from changing the oil of autos and trucks Then that oil began
to cost the shops to be removed. I do not know where the
pendulum is now, but with some speculators paying to unload
excess virgin oil things are probably different. Some towns
will have a pickup station for waste oils and other POL products
at a fire house or recycling center.
Just do not put it in the water supply.
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Did you mean septic system rather than s well? But then you have to shock a well with several gallons of bleach when new or gets contaminated....
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I have very oily skin so have to clean my glasses constantly. It struck me at 2:00 am (!) that maybe my glasses cleaner could be useful for those pesky stamps. So I tried it, and it worked great. Here's the one I have, unfortunately no contents are listed but it seems to have some alcohol in it and a soapy solution that smells of citrus (like our lemon dish soap). I'm assuming most such products would be "sort of" the same.
The caveat is to only spray the back side of the stamp where the envelope paper is - and you can start to peel it off quickly - leaving the stamp and the backing intact. I found that when I also sprayed the front of the stamp, the stamp itself began to come apart from the backing and wrecked it.
I also used it on some Victoria-era GB stamps that were heavily hinged with whatever homemade heavy surgical tape or sticky paper they used for hinges "back in the day"! In this case, I sprayed a q-tip and applied it. With a bit of gentle rubbing (in one direction only - from the middle of the stamp to the top) I could easily (but VERY gently!) pull off the "hinge" in short order then use a clean q-tip to clean up any remaining glue.
Give it a try and let's hear your story!
Dave.
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Another solution............
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Are you saying that if a stamp has backing - i.e. envelope - paper on it,
you would just torch it???
Well, I suppose if you did that enough times, it might raise the value of
the ones I KEEP.
Torch away!!
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Granted, it's a radical solution, but I truly do detest self-adhesives. I don't bother with them at all, they're neither soaked nor incinerated, just ignored.
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"You hardly sell any of those post 1940 stamps over face value, but back then a domestic letter rate was 3 cents. Now you are looking at almost $1 for the same service. They have depreciated 30 times or more."
That's a good argument to collect coins instead of stamps - up until Forever stamps came along.
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23 Apr 2020
01:21:42am
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" ....Did you mean septic system rather than s well? But then you have to shock a well with several gallons of bleach when new or gets contaminated....."
That is an interesting point. I guess I have had my own well
and an efficient septic system on my properties for so long
I forgot that you city-slickers get chemically enhanced water
and public sewerage service.
I meant well, but by adding a little phrase can clarify.
".... What ever you do, do not flush it in your toilet,
(to your septic system) especially if you have your own
well, drawing water from the pure water in the Florida
aquifer or the Texas Ogalalla aquifer. ...." The water
beneath most large cities is usually contaminated by careless
entry of waste water from humans.
And remember virtually every drop of pure water was likely
processed by a Sauropod at least once, even the water that
makes up over 50% of our human bodies.
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I mentioned it because we have a well and septic system (no city services here and really do not want them). You need to limit what you put down the drain to not interfere with the natural reaction in the septic system. In our county the the well has to be 100 ft away from septic and you do not want anything from septic (natural or otherwise) contaminating the well.
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24 Apr 2020
04:04:20am
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Absolutely !
And in some areas a septic tank has to be some
measurable distance from the property line and
any neighbors house or well . There might also
be some restriction when a house is on sloping
land that presents someone from hoping that for
them, water will run uphill.
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For you Canadians out there, Coin Stamp Supplies, a division of Trajan Media, regularly advertises Bestine in “Canadian Stamp News,” also owned by Trajan. I don’t know how to post a link that will take you directly to the page, but you can cut and paste this:
https://coinstampsupplies.com/?s=bestine
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Bestine, subject to recall notice as follows from the website.
On December 9, 2019, we received notice from Speedball Art Products Company that they were voluntarily recalling the Bestine Solvent and Thinner Products. In a statement the company wrote:
“It has been brought to our attention by Health Canada that our Bestine Solvent & Thinner Products are not compliant with Canadian regulations due to improper labeling including missing CCCR, 2001 hazard symbols and no French language warnings. As such, Speedball is recalling the following Bestine products in Canada:
Product number Description
238 4 oz Bestine
201 16 oz Bestine
202 32 oz Bestine
203 128 oz Bestine
These products have been removed from our inventory and are not currently available for sale in Canada.
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