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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Questions

 

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angore
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10 May 2020
02:33:56pm
Moved to separate thread.
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10 May 2020
02:33:57pm
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Quiz:

In the 1800s in England some people sent letters sealed with wax and a black feather stuck to the wax.

1. What was the meaning of inserting a black feather under the wax?
2. What was the reason for doing this?




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10 May 2020
02:51:30pm
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Feathers under seal.
Took a bit of searching but the explanation is here.
http://www.gavethat.com/2010/12/swedish-fjaderbrev-feather-wax-seals.html

We learn something every day, thanks for stimulating the old grey matter.

This is the site before the above which has more facts about the wax colours used.

http://www.gavethat.com/2013/02/secret-language-of-wax-seals.html

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10 May 2020
03:08:59pm
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Mind you in the 1800's there was no airmail so I reckon it probably was something to show contents were probably sad or notice of someone's demise.

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10 May 2020
03:53:03pm
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Quiz Correction!!!

The country name should be Sweden.

This is a two part question.

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10 May 2020
04:06:08pm
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Ok so here is a better link.

https://www.berryhillsturgeon.com/Archives/Sweden/SE-1774Featherletter.htm

So it denoted a type of letter that needed express delivery.

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10 May 2020
04:17:54pm
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Now we know it is Sweden here is a 1984 stamp depicting the letter and feather.
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10 May 2020
04:51:04pm
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Not that I am sure what the last 6 posts have to do with coronavirus, but maybe the mods can hive these off into a separate thread.

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10 May 2020
08:58:27pm
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Quiz:
Question 1: the feather indicated the missive, or message, was URGENT. CORRECT
Question 2: For what reason was this done? Not Answered.


I am trying to bring some philatelic levity in a time of dire incertitude, fear and pain.
If a moderator chooses to move this item to another thread, so be it. I would welcome it with an open heart.Big Grin

Please, go to the thread The Weekly Comedy Show for my newest contribution.Laughing

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11 May 2020
10:42:14am
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Q2. so the carrier would know that it had to go as fast as possible?
Was there a reason why you stated a black feather rather than just a feather in your original question?
The wave form with a horizontal line meant that it had to go directly.

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11 May 2020
02:37:37pm
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Hello,
The answer, according to Prof. David Lank of McGill University, Canada, is that in those days in Sweden--and I surmise other areas, other countries--"post offices" were staffed by many illiterate individuals who neither knew how to read nor write. Thus, these symbols or representations were easily understood by such individuals when handling the postal materials.

Sweden established laws that required Post Offices to have at least two staff members who could read in order to handle the mail.

Dr. Lank's lecture. Every Stamp a Story, can be accessed on YouTube. I wonder how many other signs and symbols--among them the Wave--were used by people using the postal services around the world. These symbols "adorn" covers and often are not easily understood.

Is there a group who studies this topic?

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11 May 2020
03:36:07pm
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Ok, so was there a reason you said black feather rather than any colour feather?

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10 May 2020
02:33:56pm

Moved to separate thread.

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ArtStamp

10 May 2020
02:33:57pm

re: Questions

Quiz:

In the 1800s in England some people sent letters sealed with wax and a black feather stuck to the wax.

1. What was the meaning of inserting a black feather under the wax?
2. What was the reason for doing this?




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sheepshanks

10 May 2020
02:51:30pm

re: Questions

Feathers under seal.
Took a bit of searching but the explanation is here.
http://www.gavethat.com/2010/12/swedish-fjaderbrev-feather-wax-seals.html

We learn something every day, thanks for stimulating the old grey matter.

This is the site before the above which has more facts about the wax colours used.

http://www.gavethat.com/2013/02/secret-language-of-wax-seals.html

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sheepshanks

10 May 2020
03:08:59pm

re: Questions

Mind you in the 1800's there was no airmail so I reckon it probably was something to show contents were probably sad or notice of someone's demise.

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ArtStamp

10 May 2020
03:53:03pm

re: Questions

Quiz Correction!!!

The country name should be Sweden.

This is a two part question.

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sheepshanks

10 May 2020
04:06:08pm

re: Questions

Ok so here is a better link.

https://www.berryhillsturgeon.com/Archives/Sweden/SE-1774Featherletter.htm

So it denoted a type of letter that needed express delivery.

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sheepshanks

10 May 2020
04:17:54pm

re: Questions

Now we know it is Sweden here is a 1984 stamp depicting the letter and feather.
Image Not Found

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sheepshanks

10 May 2020
04:51:04pm

re: Questions

Not that I am sure what the last 6 posts have to do with coronavirus, but maybe the mods can hive these off into a separate thread.

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ArtStamp

10 May 2020
08:58:27pm

re: Questions

Quiz:
Question 1: the feather indicated the missive, or message, was URGENT. CORRECT
Question 2: For what reason was this done? Not Answered.


I am trying to bring some philatelic levity in a time of dire incertitude, fear and pain.
If a moderator chooses to move this item to another thread, so be it. I would welcome it with an open heart.Big Grin

Please, go to the thread The Weekly Comedy Show for my newest contribution.Laughing

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sheepshanks

11 May 2020
10:42:14am

re: Questions

Q2. so the carrier would know that it had to go as fast as possible?
Was there a reason why you stated a black feather rather than just a feather in your original question?
The wave form with a horizontal line meant that it had to go directly.

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this post
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ArtStamp

11 May 2020
02:37:37pm

re: Questions

Hello,
The answer, according to Prof. David Lank of McGill University, Canada, is that in those days in Sweden--and I surmise other areas, other countries--"post offices" were staffed by many illiterate individuals who neither knew how to read nor write. Thus, these symbols or representations were easily understood by such individuals when handling the postal materials.

Sweden established laws that required Post Offices to have at least two staff members who could read in order to handle the mail.

Dr. Lank's lecture. Every Stamp a Story, can be accessed on YouTube. I wonder how many other signs and symbols--among them the Wave--were used by people using the postal services around the world. These symbols "adorn" covers and often are not easily understood.

Is there a group who studies this topic?

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sheepshanks

11 May 2020
03:36:07pm

re: Questions

Ok, so was there a reason you said black feather rather than any colour feather?

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