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It also appears to be a signature on it and I was wondering if anyone knew to whom
it might belong..
I googled Gimbels and found the following article you might be interested in reading.
http://www.stampnewsonline.net/StampNewsOnline-PW/YesterdayinStamps/YIS%202011/YIS%200411%20Gimbels.pdf
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Interesting.
Note the phone number: PEnnsylvannia 6-5100. Down the street is the Pennsylvania Hotel, where Glenn Miller played. Their Phone number was and still is PEnnsylvania 6-5000 (212-736-5000).
I love American history.
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Found this on the web.
http://www.thedepartmentstoremuseum.org/2010/05/gimbel-brothers-new-york-city-new-york.html
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Was it Jacques Minkus who ran the Gimbels stamp department? At the time, many NYC department stores had stamp departments (Macy's, Gimbels, Bambergers). I assume it was the same elsewhere in the country.
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Just maybe - a Dave Elman hosted a NYC radio show about people with unusual hobbies. The show ran from 1937 into the 1950's. That might be a connection to Gimbel's stamp department.
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Glenn Miller's song always makes me remember the campy movie from 1985 -
"Transylvania 6-5000" starring Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis, among others.
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Terrible movie.....I loved it!
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Yes, it was Jacques Minkus who owned and operated by the stamp department of Gimbals. It was a wonderland for new and returning collectors.
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Well when I was in college I worked in a Gimbels Department store part time for almost 5 years. It was a suburban store in Paramus New Jersey. I spent part of my breaks in the stamp department looking at stamps and getting supplies I needed. As a store employee although we got a 25% store discount - in the stamp department I believe it was a 10% discount on supplies only not the stamps. As a kid growing up my dad who was a collector took me into the large stamp department in the main New York City store all of the time. I think Gimbels was the only large department store that had a stamp department in the suburbs. Steve
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I have known my wife’s best friend for over 40 years. Only a year ago did she mention that her mother was a stamp collector! She’d drag the three kids into NYC to go to Gimbels stamp department!
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Note the phone number: PEnnsylvannia 6-5100. Down the street is the Pennsylvania Hotel, where Glenn Miller played. Their Phone number was and still is PEnnsylvania 6-5000 (212-736-5000).
One of my estate sale finds today was this book issued by the Post Office Department in 1937... tucked in the back was a large article about the variety of stamps issued in 1948, and on the back was an ad for the Statler Hotel chain, announcing its acquisition of the Hotel Pennsylvania. Not sure what magazine it came from, but I would date it to around January of 1949, when Statler renamed the location.
I attended Cornell in the 1990's, so whenever I hear "Statler", I think of the School of Hotel Administration, and their Statler "teaching hotel" on campus.... yes, there's actually an Ivy-League degree program for hoteliers. There's also a Statler Hotel near me in Buffalo, which is alleged to be "very haunted".... if you go in for that sort of thing!
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Hotel Pennsylvania is still standing, although no longer a shining light, and it's been renamed a couple of times. it does still host most of the world's best dogs around the time of the Westminster show (held at Madison Square Garden, which is located about 15 blocks north and 3 blocks east of Madison Square). Gimbels is long gone, and it looks as if Macy's will be following in the relatively near future. MSG is the eastern half of the space that also houses Pennsylvania Station, which was the sister to the James A Farley Post Office, both designed by McKimm and Meade. And the GPO will soon be the western front to an expanded Penn Station.
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Wow, this discussion really brings back memories. The Gimbels in the suburban New York City area where I lived, back in the 60s and 70s, had a stamp department, run by Minkus as others have mentioned. As a lad I liked to see all the bright, shiny stamps in the display cases. Later on, in the 80s, I did buy things at the Macys stamp department in Manhattan, which as I recall was a very large operation. To address a comment from Steve, I do recall Abraham and Strauss (A&S) also having a decent stamp department in the suburbs; I remember buying some things there for my birthday once.
It's interesting to note that even into the 80s, lower tier department stores (Two Guys, Grants, TSS) had a small stamp rack with stuff for sale, usually in the toy department. They would sell kid's stamp albums, hinges, and inexpensive stamps on cellophane wrapped cardboard, usually from HE Harris or Treat. But no more. On the other hand, nowadays we have the internet to track down hard to find items and compare prices, so there is something to be said for modern times. I guess.
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I do not recall a stamp department in the A&S that was where I lived in New Jersey. That store was newer than the other department stores in the area - so maybe by that time it opened around 1974 - they did not include a stamp department. I do remember that stores like Two Guys had some stamp items (mostly supplies) nothing like the cases of more valuable stamps that we had in Gimbels when I worked in that store.
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Now a days that’s at Hobby Lobby, a chain that’s more home decor and craft stuff than real hobbies. They have the 1/8 of an aisle display of coin and stamp supplies.. album pages, mounts and some of the cheap stamp packs
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I didn't know Hobby Lobby carried anything like that - I'll check it out.
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There was very little in the Hobby Lobby I visited.
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In the Hobby Lobby in Amarillo there is, as noted,
a miniscule stamp section, not big enough to be a
department.
However in a nearby aisle there are handicraft tools
on the rack which includes several different style
tweezers (tongs) and magnifiers.
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We have a brand new Hobby Lobby store that just opened in my small hometown for the first time ever.
I am planning on visiting it today;
I will report back here at a later date what I find in-store in regards to stamp collecting paraphernalia.
I CAN tell you that the Grand Rapids store - among other things - carries those red and green plastic bags of used stamps that we used to see quite regularly in stores, sold by Harris. I used to love buying those as a kid!
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I have just returned from our new local Hobby Lobby,
where I took a few pics of their stamp and coin collecting section.
They have stock pages in the Vario style for $4.99/5-pack, which is not bad at all,
except they currently only carry 8-pocket, 2-pocket and 1-pocket;
They have a current issue US/BNA price catalog by Harris;
A Lindner-style stock book/album for $19.95;
a few misc. size mounts;
and various other items, as you can see in the images.
One thing I did purchase was one of the green bags of WW stamps from Harris that you can see in a couple of the images. I am going to have a look at what's inside later today and report back with scans of all the stamps inside!
I don't collect WW, but thought it would be a bit more interesting to everyone than just US.
For $7.99, we will see if I can actually break even with the cost-to-value ratio just like E. Rawolik does in in each issue of his Linns kiloware review!
By the way - don't you just love the package that states "ANTIQUE STAMPS" and below says, "Old Obsolete Issues..."
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The stamp and coin display at Hobby Lobby is pretty much exactly the same at every store i have visited. There Is a coupon on their website for 40% off any one item. Same coupon eternally just expiration date changes. You can print it or just show it to cashier on your phone.
I have bought the Vario style pages, $4.99 becomes $2.99 with the coupon. They used to have a Supersafe stock book with white pages for $15.99, $9.60 with coupon. I don’t like the current style stock books with black pages, still that $19.99 one is only $11.99 with coupon.
I’d generally go in the store for model supplies and when I didn’t find anything I needed, I’d use the coupon to buy a pack of stock pages or another stock book until I got all I’d ever need.
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Okay Y'all,
Here is the lowdown on what was in the green bag!
There was a total of 311 stamps;
--some were damaged (est. around 10% or more)
--some duplication (est. 2-5%)
--MOST were on paper (and not cut very close)
--All appeared to be from at least 1960
--My best guess is around 30 different countries?
Here are the scans as laid out on my kitchen table (you can enlarge the images for a better look):
Also included in the bag along with the stamps was this 2-sided card,
advertising some offers from H.E. Harris/Whitman, as you can see in the next pics:
Unlike E. Rawolik in Linn's Weekly magazine, I will NOT be valuing each stamp by catalog - unless I get
paid for doing so like he does!
So tell me -
what does everyone think??
Is it worth the $7.99 sticker price?
I remember buying these as a kid at - I believe - $3.99 back then (almost 50 yrs. ago).
Thoughts? Questions? Comments?
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Well, with me, I'd not bother. Too much work soaking the stamps. It's just not worth it to me. Good thing I'm in Canada. I doubt those are for sale up here, at least I have never seen them.
If I knew what I was getting on paper, I'd go for it. But not knowing is a crap-shoot.
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I guess at 4 to 5 cents a stamp it is on a par with our auctions here of the more common stamps.
Probably fairly good for a youngster starting out and will give soaking and sorting practice without the worry of damaging anything valuable, always the chance of a flaw to be found as I do not think they are examined too much before being bundled into bags.
Probably better to buy a mixed lot at auction or from local stamp club or even a mixture from the local charity store/ thrift or op-shop.
Thanks Musicman for giving us all the opportunity to see the contents.
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" .... If I knew what I was getting on paper, I'd go for it. But not knowing is a crap-shoot. ...."
I am usually an easy mark for things like that, and have been since I found a pair of UK Wildings with graphite lines, phosphor bands, and inverted watermarks. And in a slightly bigger mixed lot I discovered some Cologne Cathedrals that I sold through Apfelbalm's for about $500. (1970s) That has to be about $2,000 in today's worthless paper.
A crap shoot, yes, but the game is played all over the USA.
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Looks like Hobby Lobby has a few things of interest, at least. I was hoping they would have more in the way of mounts.
I too liked mixtures when I was a young fellow. I bought a couple at the local department store, but soon realized I was getting pretty much the same stuff in each package.
Attached is an image of one of these I still have around from the '60s. Who knows what could be in one of these? Zeppelins! A Penny Black!
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Bottom left of packet;
"UNASSORTED"
Didn't know that was an actual word!
Dictionary says it is....meaning - unsorted.
Strange....
I would have thought it meant 'not assorted', i.e. not a variety...
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"Strange....
I would have thought it meant 'not assorted', i.e. not a variety..."
Aye its just one of the many vagries of the English language.
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I found this card in a box lot and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.
It also appears to be a signature on it and I was wondering if anyone knew to whom
it might belong..
I googled Gimbels and found the following article you might be interested in reading.
http://www.stampnewsonline.net/StampNewsOnline-PW/YesterdayinStamps/YIS%202011/YIS%200411%20Gimbels.pdf
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Interesting.
Note the phone number: PEnnsylvannia 6-5100. Down the street is the Pennsylvania Hotel, where Glenn Miller played. Their Phone number was and still is PEnnsylvania 6-5000 (212-736-5000).
I love American history.
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Found this on the web.
http://www.thedepartmentstoremuseum.org/2010/05/gimbel-brothers-new-york-city-new-york.html
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Was it Jacques Minkus who ran the Gimbels stamp department? At the time, many NYC department stores had stamp departments (Macy's, Gimbels, Bambergers). I assume it was the same elsewhere in the country.
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Just maybe - a Dave Elman hosted a NYC radio show about people with unusual hobbies. The show ran from 1937 into the 1950's. That might be a connection to Gimbel's stamp department.
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Glenn Miller's song always makes me remember the campy movie from 1985 -
"Transylvania 6-5000" starring Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis, among others.
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Randy:
Me too!
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Terrible movie.....I loved it!
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Yes, it was Jacques Minkus who owned and operated by the stamp department of Gimbals. It was a wonderland for new and returning collectors.
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Well when I was in college I worked in a Gimbels Department store part time for almost 5 years. It was a suburban store in Paramus New Jersey. I spent part of my breaks in the stamp department looking at stamps and getting supplies I needed. As a store employee although we got a 25% store discount - in the stamp department I believe it was a 10% discount on supplies only not the stamps. As a kid growing up my dad who was a collector took me into the large stamp department in the main New York City store all of the time. I think Gimbels was the only large department store that had a stamp department in the suburbs. Steve
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I have known my wife’s best friend for over 40 years. Only a year ago did she mention that her mother was a stamp collector! She’d drag the three kids into NYC to go to Gimbels stamp department!
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Note the phone number: PEnnsylvannia 6-5100. Down the street is the Pennsylvania Hotel, where Glenn Miller played. Their Phone number was and still is PEnnsylvania 6-5000 (212-736-5000).
One of my estate sale finds today was this book issued by the Post Office Department in 1937... tucked in the back was a large article about the variety of stamps issued in 1948, and on the back was an ad for the Statler Hotel chain, announcing its acquisition of the Hotel Pennsylvania. Not sure what magazine it came from, but I would date it to around January of 1949, when Statler renamed the location.
I attended Cornell in the 1990's, so whenever I hear "Statler", I think of the School of Hotel Administration, and their Statler "teaching hotel" on campus.... yes, there's actually an Ivy-League degree program for hoteliers. There's also a Statler Hotel near me in Buffalo, which is alleged to be "very haunted".... if you go in for that sort of thing!
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Hotel Pennsylvania is still standing, although no longer a shining light, and it's been renamed a couple of times. it does still host most of the world's best dogs around the time of the Westminster show (held at Madison Square Garden, which is located about 15 blocks north and 3 blocks east of Madison Square). Gimbels is long gone, and it looks as if Macy's will be following in the relatively near future. MSG is the eastern half of the space that also houses Pennsylvania Station, which was the sister to the James A Farley Post Office, both designed by McKimm and Meade. And the GPO will soon be the western front to an expanded Penn Station.
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Wow, this discussion really brings back memories. The Gimbels in the suburban New York City area where I lived, back in the 60s and 70s, had a stamp department, run by Minkus as others have mentioned. As a lad I liked to see all the bright, shiny stamps in the display cases. Later on, in the 80s, I did buy things at the Macys stamp department in Manhattan, which as I recall was a very large operation. To address a comment from Steve, I do recall Abraham and Strauss (A&S) also having a decent stamp department in the suburbs; I remember buying some things there for my birthday once.
It's interesting to note that even into the 80s, lower tier department stores (Two Guys, Grants, TSS) had a small stamp rack with stuff for sale, usually in the toy department. They would sell kid's stamp albums, hinges, and inexpensive stamps on cellophane wrapped cardboard, usually from HE Harris or Treat. But no more. On the other hand, nowadays we have the internet to track down hard to find items and compare prices, so there is something to be said for modern times. I guess.
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I do not recall a stamp department in the A&S that was where I lived in New Jersey. That store was newer than the other department stores in the area - so maybe by that time it opened around 1974 - they did not include a stamp department. I do remember that stores like Two Guys had some stamp items (mostly supplies) nothing like the cases of more valuable stamps that we had in Gimbels when I worked in that store.
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Now a days that’s at Hobby Lobby, a chain that’s more home decor and craft stuff than real hobbies. They have the 1/8 of an aisle display of coin and stamp supplies.. album pages, mounts and some of the cheap stamp packs
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I didn't know Hobby Lobby carried anything like that - I'll check it out.
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There was very little in the Hobby Lobby I visited.
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In the Hobby Lobby in Amarillo there is, as noted,
a miniscule stamp section, not big enough to be a
department.
However in a nearby aisle there are handicraft tools
on the rack which includes several different style
tweezers (tongs) and magnifiers.
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We have a brand new Hobby Lobby store that just opened in my small hometown for the first time ever.
I am planning on visiting it today;
I will report back here at a later date what I find in-store in regards to stamp collecting paraphernalia.
I CAN tell you that the Grand Rapids store - among other things - carries those red and green plastic bags of used stamps that we used to see quite regularly in stores, sold by Harris. I used to love buying those as a kid!
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I have just returned from our new local Hobby Lobby,
where I took a few pics of their stamp and coin collecting section.
They have stock pages in the Vario style for $4.99/5-pack, which is not bad at all,
except they currently only carry 8-pocket, 2-pocket and 1-pocket;
They have a current issue US/BNA price catalog by Harris;
A Lindner-style stock book/album for $19.95;
a few misc. size mounts;
and various other items, as you can see in the images.
One thing I did purchase was one of the green bags of WW stamps from Harris that you can see in a couple of the images. I am going to have a look at what's inside later today and report back with scans of all the stamps inside!
I don't collect WW, but thought it would be a bit more interesting to everyone than just US.
For $7.99, we will see if I can actually break even with the cost-to-value ratio just like E. Rawolik does in in each issue of his Linns kiloware review!
By the way - don't you just love the package that states "ANTIQUE STAMPS" and below says, "Old Obsolete Issues..."
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The stamp and coin display at Hobby Lobby is pretty much exactly the same at every store i have visited. There Is a coupon on their website for 40% off any one item. Same coupon eternally just expiration date changes. You can print it or just show it to cashier on your phone.
I have bought the Vario style pages, $4.99 becomes $2.99 with the coupon. They used to have a Supersafe stock book with white pages for $15.99, $9.60 with coupon. I don’t like the current style stock books with black pages, still that $19.99 one is only $11.99 with coupon.
I’d generally go in the store for model supplies and when I didn’t find anything I needed, I’d use the coupon to buy a pack of stock pages or another stock book until I got all I’d ever need.
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Okay Y'all,
Here is the lowdown on what was in the green bag!
There was a total of 311 stamps;
--some were damaged (est. around 10% or more)
--some duplication (est. 2-5%)
--MOST were on paper (and not cut very close)
--All appeared to be from at least 1960
--My best guess is around 30 different countries?
Here are the scans as laid out on my kitchen table (you can enlarge the images for a better look):
Also included in the bag along with the stamps was this 2-sided card,
advertising some offers from H.E. Harris/Whitman, as you can see in the next pics:
Unlike E. Rawolik in Linn's Weekly magazine, I will NOT be valuing each stamp by catalog - unless I get
paid for doing so like he does!
So tell me -
what does everyone think??
Is it worth the $7.99 sticker price?
I remember buying these as a kid at - I believe - $3.99 back then (almost 50 yrs. ago).
Thoughts? Questions? Comments?
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Well, with me, I'd not bother. Too much work soaking the stamps. It's just not worth it to me. Good thing I'm in Canada. I doubt those are for sale up here, at least I have never seen them.
If I knew what I was getting on paper, I'd go for it. But not knowing is a crap-shoot.
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I guess at 4 to 5 cents a stamp it is on a par with our auctions here of the more common stamps.
Probably fairly good for a youngster starting out and will give soaking and sorting practice without the worry of damaging anything valuable, always the chance of a flaw to be found as I do not think they are examined too much before being bundled into bags.
Probably better to buy a mixed lot at auction or from local stamp club or even a mixture from the local charity store/ thrift or op-shop.
Thanks Musicman for giving us all the opportunity to see the contents.
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" .... If I knew what I was getting on paper, I'd go for it. But not knowing is a crap-shoot. ...."
I am usually an easy mark for things like that, and have been since I found a pair of UK Wildings with graphite lines, phosphor bands, and inverted watermarks. And in a slightly bigger mixed lot I discovered some Cologne Cathedrals that I sold through Apfelbalm's for about $500. (1970s) That has to be about $2,000 in today's worthless paper.
A crap shoot, yes, but the game is played all over the USA.
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Looks like Hobby Lobby has a few things of interest, at least. I was hoping they would have more in the way of mounts.
I too liked mixtures when I was a young fellow. I bought a couple at the local department store, but soon realized I was getting pretty much the same stuff in each package.
Attached is an image of one of these I still have around from the '60s. Who knows what could be in one of these? Zeppelins! A Penny Black!
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Bottom left of packet;
"UNASSORTED"
Didn't know that was an actual word!
Dictionary says it is....meaning - unsorted.
Strange....
I would have thought it meant 'not assorted', i.e. not a variety...
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