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United States/Stamps : American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

 

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Sally

26 Jul 2020
12:03:48pm
Trying to place stamp panes correctly in album and cannot figure out the difference between the following:

730 and 766
731 and 767

I have a pane of each (25 stamps), no gum as issued, plate numbers 730 (21145), and 731 (21146). There is a note at the end of the listing in the 2013 Scott catalog to "See Nos. 766-767 in the Special Printings following Nos. 751".

That section says that single stamps from these sheets are identical to other varieties (730 and 766, 730a and 766a, 731 and 767, 731a and 767a) and the only way to differentiate is by the wide gutters between the panes.

Do I understand this correctly? Where do I put these in the album then? Does it matter?

I also checked Stampsmarter but didn't find anything to add to the above.

Thanks for any info.....
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26 Jul 2020
07:56:38pm
re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

If I remember correctly the stamps for a rotary press printing are a different size from a flat plate printing. I can't remember the sizes but I think the rotary are larger by about 1/2mm to 1mm in both dimensions. I just checked my Liberty album and it doesn't even have spaces for the second set. I could be out to lunch on all of this so wait for another "expert". Definition: An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he/she knows everything about nothing.
addition: When I say "stamps are larger" I mean both the individual stamps and this would make the sheet larger as well. Am I right - are rotary press stamps a different size from dry press stamps. That's what Google seems to say.

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26 Jul 2020
08:31:46pm
re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

I do not deal in this era of US stamps very much, so I may be corrected, however my understanding is that the souvenir sheets 730/766 and 731/767 are indistinguishable except for the larger margins of the latter. If a 766 was trimmed to exactly the original dimensions of 730, it would be a 730.

Both s/s were originally printed on plates of 9 sheets of 25, but the 730/731 were cut into individual sheets before being sold. The reprint was from the same plates, but were released to the public uncut (3 x 3). For this reason, 766/767 are generally collected in some fashion showing the extra wide margins or gutters between stamps in order to show that they came from the reprinted sheets.

Here are samples of 730 and 766:

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Roy

P.S. don't focus on the colour difference in the scans -- they came from different sources.

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27 Jul 2020
08:49:04am
re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

Thank you both. Happy

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28 Jul 2020
05:43:25pm
re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

We're getting into the Farley's here and that's an area I've got to study a bit more. Some stamps were issued with gum and some without. My gut tells me I have a few mistakes to fix. You also have guttered pairs of various types to worry about. My album has two pages of different types - perforate, imperforate, etc. Supposedly I have all varieties in my Liberty album but a serious Farley collector has a lot to figure out!

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Sally
26 Jul 2020
12:03:48pm

Trying to place stamp panes correctly in album and cannot figure out the difference between the following:

730 and 766
731 and 767

I have a pane of each (25 stamps), no gum as issued, plate numbers 730 (21145), and 731 (21146). There is a note at the end of the listing in the 2013 Scott catalog to "See Nos. 766-767 in the Special Printings following Nos. 751".

That section says that single stamps from these sheets are identical to other varieties (730 and 766, 730a and 766a, 731 and 767, 731a and 767a) and the only way to differentiate is by the wide gutters between the panes.

Do I understand this correctly? Where do I put these in the album then? Does it matter?

I also checked Stampsmarter but didn't find anything to add to the above.

Thanks for any info.....

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Harvey

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26 Jul 2020
07:56:38pm

re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

If I remember correctly the stamps for a rotary press printing are a different size from a flat plate printing. I can't remember the sizes but I think the rotary are larger by about 1/2mm to 1mm in both dimensions. I just checked my Liberty album and it doesn't even have spaces for the second set. I could be out to lunch on all of this so wait for another "expert". Definition: An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he/she knows everything about nothing.
addition: When I say "stamps are larger" I mean both the individual stamps and this would make the sheet larger as well. Am I right - are rotary press stamps a different size from dry press stamps. That's what Google seems to say.

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26 Jul 2020
08:31:46pm

re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

I do not deal in this era of US stamps very much, so I may be corrected, however my understanding is that the souvenir sheets 730/766 and 731/767 are indistinguishable except for the larger margins of the latter. If a 766 was trimmed to exactly the original dimensions of 730, it would be a 730.

Both s/s were originally printed on plates of 9 sheets of 25, but the 730/731 were cut into individual sheets before being sold. The reprint was from the same plates, but were released to the public uncut (3 x 3). For this reason, 766/767 are generally collected in some fashion showing the extra wide margins or gutters between stamps in order to show that they came from the reprinted sheets.

Here are samples of 730 and 766:

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Image Not Found

Roy

P.S. don't focus on the colour difference in the scans -- they came from different sources.

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Sally
27 Jul 2020
08:49:04am

re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

Thank you both. Happy

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Harvey

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28 Jul 2020
05:43:25pm

re: American Philatelic Society issues 1933 vs 1935

We're getting into the Farley's here and that's an area I've got to study a bit more. Some stamps were issued with gum and some without. My gut tells me I have a few mistakes to fix. You also have guttered pairs of various types to worry about. My album has two pages of different types - perforate, imperforate, etc. Supposedly I have all varieties in my Liberty album but a serious Farley collector has a lot to figure out!

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