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30 Jul 2020
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Need someone to translate it was in a envelope with keep important. looks like Japanese Thanks' RichardImage Not Found
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30 Jul 2020
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Try scanning it to Google Translate.

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30 Jul 2020
06:33:01pm
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I can read a little katakana from taking Japanese classes in college 20 years ago, which is the Japanese alphabet that can be used to phonetically write foreign loanwords, and I think I see "Potsdam", "America", and "Soviet" in there. The rest I am too rusty, sorry.

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01 Aug 2020
10:25:56pm
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Thanks

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02 Aug 2020
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1. send to googledrive and open with google docs...

2. below scan is OCR file text ...

3. copy OCR TEXT and post to GOOGLE TRANSLATE

4. COPY tranlated text to file

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06 Aug 2020
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Cant get the link to work

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06 Aug 2020
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If you're an APS member, you can request translation services. It's normally inexpensive. I've used it several times.

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06 Aug 2020
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Hi Bob, Thank you. Yes I am a lifetime member.
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30 Sep 2020
04:40:10pm
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Thanks to APS translation services. They translated all of it.
The translator spent additional time to research the original Potsdam Declaration and found that the article I have in Japanese had made omissions. The attached translation include both the original as well as the one from your article.
Potsdam Declaration

Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender
Issued, at Potsdam, July 26, 1945
It's going in my US Patriotic & history Papers & Covers.

Keep on Stamping
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30 Sep 2020
05:57:10pm
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My translation is a little different from APS. This is an article about Potsdam Declaration.
The article mentioned that the Potsdam Declaration was reviewed by the Japanese Imperial (government) and was approved by the Emperor. This document was issued by Harry Truman, Chiang Kei Shek & Winston Churchill which outlines the terms & conditions for Japan surrender.

In this article, I see five terms that Japan must meet. The terms are: eliminate influence, sovereignty, disarmed & enslaved/destroy a nation. Upon meeting these terms, the Potsdam Declaration offer Democracy with human rights, economic assistant in global trade. Moreover, the Allied forces in occupied Japan will withdrawal.

The Potsdam Declaration is ambiguous, but not very clear in this article because it didn't mention if the Japanese government will stay under Allied occupation or managed by a foreign government. The article mentioned about Japan's four major islands which belongs to Japan. However, other islands are in dispute, again unclear.

The word "Japanese military" was mentioned many times in this 2 page article. The writer seems to be emotional.

I'm a little surprise that this article mentioned the "Emperor" multiple times because this was not mention in the Potsdam Declaration. The United Nations or League of Nations was mention in this article relating to Japan's future & their role to the world. At the end of this article, it ask Japan for unconditional surrender.

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30 Sep 2020
06:57:28pm
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This wording is missing from my document

We-the President of the United States, the President of the National
Government of the Republic of China, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain,
representing the hundreds of millions of our countrymen, have conferred and
agree that Japan shall be given an opportunity to end this war.
The prodigious land, sea and air forces of the United States, the British
Empire and of China, many times reinforced by their armies and air fleets
from the west, are poised to strike the final blows upon Japan. This military
power is sustained and inspired by the determination of all the Allied Nations
to prosecute the war against Japan until she ceases to resist.
3 The result of the futile and senseless German resistance to the might of the
aroused free peoples of the world stands forth in awful clarity as an example
to the people of Japan. The might that now converges on Japan is
immeasurably greater than that which, when applied to the resisting Nazis,
necessarily laid waste to the lands, the industry and the method of life of the
whole German people. The full application of our military power, backed by
our resolve, will mean the inevitable and complete destruction of the
Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the
Japanese homeland.
4 The time has come for Japan to decide whether she will continue to be
controlled by those self-willed militaristic advisers whose unintelligent
calculations have brought the Empire of Japan to the threshold of
annihilation, or whether she will follow the path of reason.
5 Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them. There are no
alternatives. We shall brook no delay.

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30 Sep 2020
07:08:15pm
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My document

There must be eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who
have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world
conquest. for we insist that a new order of peace, security and justice will be
impossible until irresponsible militarism is driven from the world.
2 Until such a new order is established and until there is convincing proof that
Japan's war-making power is destroyed, points in Japanese territory to be
designated by the Allies shall be occupied to secure the achievement of the
basic objectives we are here setting forth.
3 The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese
sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu,
Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.
4 The Japanese military forces, after being completely disarmed, shall be
permitted to return to their homes with the opportunity to lead peaceful and
productive lives.

We do not intend that the Japanese shall be enslaved as a race or destroyed
as a nation, but stern justice shall be meted out to all war criminals, including
those who have visited cruelties upon our prisoners. The Japanese
Government shall remove all obstacles to the revival and strengthening of
democratic tendencies among the Japanese people. Freedom of speech, of
religion, and of thought, as well as respect for the fundamental human rights
shall be established.
6 Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her
economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those
which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as
distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual
Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.
7 The occupying forces of the Allies shall be withdrawn from Japan as soon as
these objectives have been accomplished and there has been established in
accordance with the freely expressed will of the Japanese people a peacefully
inclined and responsible government.
8 We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional
surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate
assurances of their good faith in such action.*Title* WAR IS OVER
*Sub title* Japan has accepted Proclamation Defining Terms offered Allied
Nations
USA, GB, China and USSR have agreed to close this war by Japan
surrendering their proclamation that
their allies shall be occupied our country with legit rights of sovereignty
To accept surrender of Japan, the specified condition by their allies are as
follow;
Japanese Emperor shall order to all HQ Commanders in whole army in whole
world to suspend any maritally action,
and each commanders are requested to submit any order upon their
subordinates to complete surrender if required.



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30 Jul 2020
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30 Jul 2020
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I can read a little katakana from taking Japanese classes in college 20 years ago, which is the Japanese alphabet that can be used to phonetically write foreign loanwords, and I think I see "Potsdam", "America", and "Soviet" in there. The rest I am too rusty, sorry.

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Thanks

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02 Aug 2020
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1. send to googledrive and open with google docs...

2. below scan is OCR file text ...

3. copy OCR TEXT and post to GOOGLE TRANSLATE

4. COPY tranlated text to file

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06 Aug 2020
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Cant get the link to work

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06 Aug 2020
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If you're an APS member, you can request translation services. It's normally inexpensive. I've used it several times.

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06 Aug 2020
11:55:19pm

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Hi Bob, Thank you. Yes I am a lifetime member.
Keep on Stamping
Richard

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30 Sep 2020
04:40:10pm

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Thanks to APS translation services. They translated all of it.
The translator spent additional time to research the original Potsdam Declaration and found that the article I have in Japanese had made omissions. The attached translation include both the original as well as the one from your article.
Potsdam Declaration

Proclamation Defining Terms for Japanese Surrender
Issued, at Potsdam, July 26, 1945
It's going in my US Patriotic & history Papers & Covers.

Keep on Stamping
Richard

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30 Sep 2020
05:57:10pm

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My translation is a little different from APS. This is an article about Potsdam Declaration.
The article mentioned that the Potsdam Declaration was reviewed by the Japanese Imperial (government) and was approved by the Emperor. This document was issued by Harry Truman, Chiang Kei Shek & Winston Churchill which outlines the terms & conditions for Japan surrender.

In this article, I see five terms that Japan must meet. The terms are: eliminate influence, sovereignty, disarmed & enslaved/destroy a nation. Upon meeting these terms, the Potsdam Declaration offer Democracy with human rights, economic assistant in global trade. Moreover, the Allied forces in occupied Japan will withdrawal.

The Potsdam Declaration is ambiguous, but not very clear in this article because it didn't mention if the Japanese government will stay under Allied occupation or managed by a foreign government. The article mentioned about Japan's four major islands which belongs to Japan. However, other islands are in dispute, again unclear.

The word "Japanese military" was mentioned many times in this 2 page article. The writer seems to be emotional.

I'm a little surprise that this article mentioned the "Emperor" multiple times because this was not mention in the Potsdam Declaration. The United Nations or League of Nations was mention in this article relating to Japan's future & their role to the world. At the end of this article, it ask Japan for unconditional surrender.

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30 Sep 2020
06:57:28pm

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This wording is missing from my document

We-the President of the United States, the President of the National
Government of the Republic of China, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain,
representing the hundreds of millions of our countrymen, have conferred and
agree that Japan shall be given an opportunity to end this war.
The prodigious land, sea and air forces of the United States, the British
Empire and of China, many times reinforced by their armies and air fleets
from the west, are poised to strike the final blows upon Japan. This military
power is sustained and inspired by the determination of all the Allied Nations
to prosecute the war against Japan until she ceases to resist.
3 The result of the futile and senseless German resistance to the might of the
aroused free peoples of the world stands forth in awful clarity as an example
to the people of Japan. The might that now converges on Japan is
immeasurably greater than that which, when applied to the resisting Nazis,
necessarily laid waste to the lands, the industry and the method of life of the
whole German people. The full application of our military power, backed by
our resolve, will mean the inevitable and complete destruction of the
Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the
Japanese homeland.
4 The time has come for Japan to decide whether she will continue to be
controlled by those self-willed militaristic advisers whose unintelligent
calculations have brought the Empire of Japan to the threshold of
annihilation, or whether she will follow the path of reason.
5 Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them. There are no
alternatives. We shall brook no delay.

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30 Sep 2020
07:08:15pm

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My document

There must be eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who
have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world
conquest. for we insist that a new order of peace, security and justice will be
impossible until irresponsible militarism is driven from the world.
2 Until such a new order is established and until there is convincing proof that
Japan's war-making power is destroyed, points in Japanese territory to be
designated by the Allies shall be occupied to secure the achievement of the
basic objectives we are here setting forth.
3 The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese
sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu,
Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.
4 The Japanese military forces, after being completely disarmed, shall be
permitted to return to their homes with the opportunity to lead peaceful and
productive lives.

We do not intend that the Japanese shall be enslaved as a race or destroyed
as a nation, but stern justice shall be meted out to all war criminals, including
those who have visited cruelties upon our prisoners. The Japanese
Government shall remove all obstacles to the revival and strengthening of
democratic tendencies among the Japanese people. Freedom of speech, of
religion, and of thought, as well as respect for the fundamental human rights
shall be established.
6 Japan shall be permitted to maintain such industries as will sustain her
economy and permit the exaction of just reparations in kind, but not those
which would enable her to re-arm for war. To this end, access to, as
distinguished from control of, raw materials shall be permitted. Eventual
Japanese participation in world trade relations shall be permitted.
7 The occupying forces of the Allies shall be withdrawn from Japan as soon as
these objectives have been accomplished and there has been established in
accordance with the freely expressed will of the Japanese people a peacefully
inclined and responsible government.
8 We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional
surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate
assurances of their good faith in such action.*Title* WAR IS OVER
*Sub title* Japan has accepted Proclamation Defining Terms offered Allied
Nations
USA, GB, China and USSR have agreed to close this war by Japan
surrendering their proclamation that
their allies shall be occupied our country with legit rights of sovereignty
To accept surrender of Japan, the specified condition by their allies are as
follow;
Japanese Emperor shall order to all HQ Commanders in whole army in whole
world to suspend any maritally action,
and each commanders are requested to submit any order upon their
subordinates to complete surrender if required.



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