Perforations do not look right to me; I would get a known perf 12 stamp and try lining it up with both the top and bottom perfs.
Don
So, how about if you took a pair of 408, 481 or 531, all imperforate 1 cent green Washingtons, from the left side of the sheet and perforated them yourself to create very interesting errors? Are the perforations unique enough that you could tell a privately done one from the real thing?
I have no idea if someone altered these stamps. Here are a couple pictures with the perf gauge.
Something appears to be going on with the perfs. Here is a digital comparison of the top/bottom perfs of your scan, they do not appear to be the same. (In your original scans the perfs are not lined up correctly but it is understandable. It can be very hard to scan a stamp next to a perf gauge.)
There is a private perf 12, but I do not think that the private perfs would be be that misaligned. It would be best to send in for a certification, please let us know the results if you do.
Don
Thank you for the input. I have a lot of these stamps with normal perforations, but these two are the outliers.
Don, I'm not sure the two images are comparable in that way. You would have to take both pictures from the same distance to get comparable images. If you compare the perf gauge from both images, I think you might see the same misalignment.
Understood. But I had compared the perfs in the first image before my first post and the perfs appeared odd as shown here
There are three possibilities;
1. It is an imperf that someone has played with
2. It is a private perf 12 with janky perfs
3. It is a 405a (vert. in between imperf error) with janky perfs
We have not been given good scans (as opposed to phots) nor do we have any watermark info. This is why I recommended sending it in for a cert; having a stamp in hand is always better than working from images. If Back2Stamps (or others) think the perfs look legitimate, then sending it for a cert would be the prudent thing to do.
If it were my stamp, I would get a known perf 12 stamp and look closer at how this pair lines up against it before making the decision to spend money on a cert.
Don
Edit: When using an online resource like this forum for identification, we should always keep in mind that it is best used only for making decisions on spending money on certifications. No one should be mounting an uncommon/rare stamp using only an online opinion based upon an image. And most certainly no one should be trying to sell an uncommon/rare stamp using an online opinion based upon an image.
In this case, if this item is either a private perf or an error (#2 or #3 above) it needs a certification; both are uncommon/rare. But note that being uncommon/rare also increases the likelihood of fraud/deception. The perfs look to me to not be quite right but I do not have the item in hand.
Thank you, again. If there is something else I can do to help with ID, just let me know. These were in a pile of stamps I am sorting and cannot remember where, or from whom, I purchased them from (30+ years ago). I was unable to find a positive ID through other online resources and was hoping someone here would point me in the right direction. I appreciate the responses.
Greetings,
I apologize for the duplicate post, as I was not able to upload the picture properly. Yes, I am a newbie here.
I am trying to identify this Washington 1c pair with 12H perf. The only horizontal perf I see for this series are either 8-1/2H or 10H.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Perforations do not look right to me; I would get a known perf 12 stamp and try lining it up with both the top and bottom perfs.
Don
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
So, how about if you took a pair of 408, 481 or 531, all imperforate 1 cent green Washingtons, from the left side of the sheet and perforated them yourself to create very interesting errors? Are the perforations unique enough that you could tell a privately done one from the real thing?
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
I have no idea if someone altered these stamps. Here are a couple pictures with the perf gauge.
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Something appears to be going on with the perfs. Here is a digital comparison of the top/bottom perfs of your scan, they do not appear to be the same. (In your original scans the perfs are not lined up correctly but it is understandable. It can be very hard to scan a stamp next to a perf gauge.)
There is a private perf 12, but I do not think that the private perfs would be be that misaligned. It would be best to send in for a certification, please let us know the results if you do.
Don
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Thank you for the input. I have a lot of these stamps with normal perforations, but these two are the outliers.
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Don, I'm not sure the two images are comparable in that way. You would have to take both pictures from the same distance to get comparable images. If you compare the perf gauge from both images, I think you might see the same misalignment.
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Understood. But I had compared the perfs in the first image before my first post and the perfs appeared odd as shown here
There are three possibilities;
1. It is an imperf that someone has played with
2. It is a private perf 12 with janky perfs
3. It is a 405a (vert. in between imperf error) with janky perfs
We have not been given good scans (as opposed to phots) nor do we have any watermark info. This is why I recommended sending it in for a cert; having a stamp in hand is always better than working from images. If Back2Stamps (or others) think the perfs look legitimate, then sending it for a cert would be the prudent thing to do.
If it were my stamp, I would get a known perf 12 stamp and look closer at how this pair lines up against it before making the decision to spend money on a cert.
Don
Edit: When using an online resource like this forum for identification, we should always keep in mind that it is best used only for making decisions on spending money on certifications. No one should be mounting an uncommon/rare stamp using only an online opinion based upon an image. And most certainly no one should be trying to sell an uncommon/rare stamp using an online opinion based upon an image.
In this case, if this item is either a private perf or an error (#2 or #3 above) it needs a certification; both are uncommon/rare. But note that being uncommon/rare also increases the likelihood of fraud/deception. The perfs look to me to not be quite right but I do not have the item in hand.
re: Need help identifying Washington 1c 12H perf
Thank you, again. If there is something else I can do to help with ID, just let me know. These were in a pile of stamps I am sorting and cannot remember where, or from whom, I purchased them from (30+ years ago). I was unable to find a positive ID through other online resources and was hoping someone here would point me in the right direction. I appreciate the responses.