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Latin America/All : Early Haiti Help needed

 

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rrraphy
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10 Nov 2020
11:58:57pm
I have been looking for Haiti Sc #191 20 C de P blue-green for a very long time and have never seen it. It is always confused when listed on sale, with Haiti Sc #198 20 C de P yellow-green & Black.

Now does anyone have a #191. I am starting to doubt its existence.
Attached is the #198 scan
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dell4c

11 Nov 2020
09:57:59pm

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re: Early Haiti Help needed

Antonius re has what looks like a much more yellow green than yours but it appears to have an additional overprint.


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12 Nov 2020
05:26:24am
re: Early Haiti Help needed

For me the key aspects of Scott #191 are that to my eyes it is basically blue rather than green and the design is Scott A20 (not A30).

My scanner is not working but I have some of the later surcharges on the same basic stamp.

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12 Nov 2020
07:58:15am
re: Early Haiti Help needed

It is not a question of shades of green.

#191 is a surcharge on #140 which is all green.

#198 is a surcharge on #164 which is green with a black center.

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12 Nov 2020
11:33:14am
re: Early Haiti Help needed

Yes and yes...the two stamps are distinctively different, and can be identified in just a glance. They both are 20 C de P. Yet any listings I have seen on various sites has always shown #198. I am always surprised how sloppy some sellers are. I have never seen #191 after years of search, so I am seriously doubting of its existence. I have the correct stamp with all the subsequent surcharges, but not this one.
Both stamps in AntoniusRa's collection are misplaced as they have an added surcharge. (They are #197 and #198)
He does show the right color and surcharge on his #191, but unfortunately it has an additional o/p. These Haiti 1914-1919 stamps are a real challenge.
rrr...

PS: has anyone heard from Mitch (AntoniusRa)?

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12 Nov 2020
05:14:37pm

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It doesn't look like Mitch has been on the site since September.

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15 Nov 2020
08:32:36am
re: Early Haiti Help needed

I had emailed Mitch and he replied during the night. I am bumping up this posting so he will see it in the 'last 30 by time' and hopefully visit and reply.

Mike in NC / meostamps

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15 Nov 2020
12:11:39pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

Thanks Mike (meostamps). I was about to email him. I hope he shows up again here, as I miss his posts with scanned pages of his collection. (I was going to point to the error on his Haiti page Big Grin)
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Harvey

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15 Nov 2020
12:50:51pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

I hope he's well, the first place I go when I am curious about a stamp or group of stamps is his web site. According to this group of posts he is not exactly perfect all the time, but who is. I feel like I don't know you people well since I've only been a member for about a year and a half, but I look forward to going on this site a few times a day. It seems like part of my life now! Have a good and safe week!!!

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16 Nov 2020
08:28:03pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

RRRaphy,

Those old Haiti overprints can be really tricky. I've been looking over them and am just getting more and more confused. It also seems like I'm missing some spaces. No.191 looks
Blue to me and I see no Green in it. Sorry but I can't really be any help. I've forgotten more than I thought I never new about Haiti

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17 Nov 2020
11:46:19am
re: Early Haiti Help needed

Good to hear from you Mitch. I was wondering how you were doing, and I miss your posts here. Re: Haiti, these overprints are real killers. I will scan and post my pages, for reference here, if it can help anyone.
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17 Nov 2020
01:17:00pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

The Haiti early O/P Scanned pages
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18 Nov 2020
08:32:28pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

rrraphy, It's very nice to hear from you as well. I just haven't been doing much with stamps for some time and I'm not sure whether my interest will return. Every since losing most every thing from the house fire and falling off the roof, I really haven't the means to continue with it or anything else. I use to check in more frequently but any questions had already been asked a hundred times or I had no interest in the topic. Thanks for scanning your pages. I'll compare them with mine and correct my mistakes. One of the problems is the overprints are often very blurred.
I haven't been able to upload anything to my site for quite sometime. The program I was using made some changes and I have not been able to figure out how to connect with it.

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Jeredutt3

18 Nov 2020
11:09:22pm
re: Early Haiti Help needed

good to see ya back Mitch. Hope you are well and get back in the stamp spirit ! You info and commentary is always educational and appreciated. Your collection on your site is amazing !

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Retired Ap. Book Mod, Pres Golden Gate Stamp Club, Hi Tech Consultant
10 Nov 2020
11:58:57pm

I have been looking for Haiti Sc #191 20 C de P blue-green for a very long time and have never seen it. It is always confused when listed on sale, with Haiti Sc #198 20 C de P yellow-green & Black.

Now does anyone have a #191. I am starting to doubt its existence.
Attached is the #198 scan
Thanks
rrr...

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dell4c

11 Nov 2020
09:57:59pm

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re: Early Haiti Help needed

Antonius re has what looks like a much more yellow green than yours but it appears to have an additional overprint.


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nigelc

12 Nov 2020
05:26:24am

re: Early Haiti Help needed

For me the key aspects of Scott #191 are that to my eyes it is basically blue rather than green and the design is Scott A20 (not A30).

My scanner is not working but I have some of the later surcharges on the same basic stamp.

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12 Nov 2020
07:58:15am

re: Early Haiti Help needed

It is not a question of shades of green.

#191 is a surcharge on #140 which is all green.

#198 is a surcharge on #164 which is green with a black center.

Roy

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Retired Ap. Book Mod, Pres Golden Gate Stamp Club, Hi Tech Consultant
12 Nov 2020
11:33:14am

re: Early Haiti Help needed

Yes and yes...the two stamps are distinctively different, and can be identified in just a glance. They both are 20 C de P. Yet any listings I have seen on various sites has always shown #198. I am always surprised how sloppy some sellers are. I have never seen #191 after years of search, so I am seriously doubting of its existence. I have the correct stamp with all the subsequent surcharges, but not this one.
Both stamps in AntoniusRa's collection are misplaced as they have an added surcharge. (They are #197 and #198)
He does show the right color and surcharge on his #191, but unfortunately it has an additional o/p. These Haiti 1914-1919 stamps are a real challenge.
rrr...

PS: has anyone heard from Mitch (AntoniusRa)?

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12 Nov 2020
05:14:37pm

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It doesn't look like Mitch has been on the site since September.

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15 Nov 2020
08:32:36am

re: Early Haiti Help needed

I had emailed Mitch and he replied during the night. I am bumping up this posting so he will see it in the 'last 30 by time' and hopefully visit and reply.

Mike in NC / meostamps

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Retired Ap. Book Mod, Pres Golden Gate Stamp Club, Hi Tech Consultant
15 Nov 2020
12:11:39pm

re: Early Haiti Help needed

Thanks Mike (meostamps). I was about to email him. I hope he shows up again here, as I miss his posts with scanned pages of his collection. (I was going to point to the error on his Haiti page Big Grin)
rrr...

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Harvey

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15 Nov 2020
12:50:51pm

re: Early Haiti Help needed

I hope he's well, the first place I go when I am curious about a stamp or group of stamps is his web site. According to this group of posts he is not exactly perfect all the time, but who is. I feel like I don't know you people well since I've only been a member for about a year and a half, but I look forward to going on this site a few times a day. It seems like part of my life now! Have a good and safe week!!!

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16 Nov 2020
08:28:03pm

re: Early Haiti Help needed

RRRaphy,

Those old Haiti overprints can be really tricky. I've been looking over them and am just getting more and more confused. It also seems like I'm missing some spaces. No.191 looks
Blue to me and I see no Green in it. Sorry but I can't really be any help. I've forgotten more than I thought I never new about Haiti

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17 Nov 2020
11:46:19am

re: Early Haiti Help needed

Good to hear from you Mitch. I was wondering how you were doing, and I miss your posts here. Re: Haiti, these overprints are real killers. I will scan and post my pages, for reference here, if it can help anyone.
rrr...

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17 Nov 2020
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re: Early Haiti Help needed

The Haiti early O/P Scanned pages
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18 Nov 2020
08:32:28pm

re: Early Haiti Help needed

rrraphy, It's very nice to hear from you as well. I just haven't been doing much with stamps for some time and I'm not sure whether my interest will return. Every since losing most every thing from the house fire and falling off the roof, I really haven't the means to continue with it or anything else. I use to check in more frequently but any questions had already been asked a hundred times or I had no interest in the topic. Thanks for scanning your pages. I'll compare them with mine and correct my mistakes. One of the problems is the overprints are often very blurred.
I haven't been able to upload anything to my site for quite sometime. The program I was using made some changes and I have not been able to figure out how to connect with it.

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Jeredutt3

18 Nov 2020
11:09:22pm

re: Early Haiti Help needed

good to see ya back Mitch. Hope you are well and get back in the stamp spirit ! You info and commentary is always educational and appreciated. Your collection on your site is amazing !

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