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Europe/Great Britain : Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

 

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I09T09N46

11 Mar 2021
05:23:13am
I cannot see a plate number on this envelope dated May 14 1884
The addressee is Miss E Fraser 66 Upper Seymour Street Euston Square. I have looked and looked at the wiggly bits on the side but cannot see any numbers (mind you they are so tiny one requires an electron microscope to see them) Is this normal for 1844 please? Thank you.
I believe it was posted in Edinburgh Scotland as the Frasers came from there. Elizabeth's brother Alexander was an artist and displayed at the RA.
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This one is posted Edinburgh 1842 no stamp but a post office stamp I think? Unsure what the 'S' stands for? Thank you.
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This one is to Elizabeth Fraser I guess from Edinburgh and also has no plate number.
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11 Mar 2021
05:58:08am
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

1841 Penny reds do not have a plate number unless they are from some Imprimature sheets which are imperf. copies from perforated stamps, and are very hard to come by. The letter A in the postmark refers to moring AM the letter S is possibly a sub-post office.

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I09T09N46

11 Mar 2021
10:15:59am
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

charlie 2009 Thank you for the explanation. Please know you are dealing with a complete novice. When you use the term imperf. do you mean imperforate or imperfect? Do you have a picture of the stamps that are hard to come by please. If I see a piccie I would be able to understand. Apologies for being dim. Can't help it. These are unused. N
Herewith 4 1/2 penny Queen Victoria stamps (date unknown)and the back which are gummed. Is this right?

Just trying to find the plate numbers on the 1/2d stamps. Blimey its so hard.
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FOUND IT PLATE 4 COULDN'T THEY HAVE MADE THE NUMBERS SMALLER??????

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11 Mar 2021
11:35:35am
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

I meant imperforate and I wish I could show you some unfortunately they are a bit pricy to say the least. Your 1/2 d block alas is on the way to Neverland. A lot of those 1/2 d and 1d stamps had gum that had either ferrite contaminate and/or the cheapest possible gum was used. Remember when they had to gum a few million stamps every penny they could save on production worked out to quite a few pounds in the end and they could lower their tender.
A lot of those, like your block will literally be ripped apart by the gum.Your options: sell that block or wash off the gum and save the stamps. If you wash off the gum it will devalue the block and if you leave it it will eventually totally crack and get torn by the gum.

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11 Mar 2021
04:56:06pm
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

Although very hard to see from these small scans, it appears that the 1/2d block of 4 may have plate numbers 14. Looks like there may be a 1 below the 4. I agree about them trying to make things even smaller!

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I09T09N46

12 Mar 2021
02:19:28am
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

David i3617 thank you. I did scan them in 600 dpi but the site kept telling me they were too big so cleft stick prevails. Thank you for your kind input. Sadly Charlie 2009 thinks they are on their way to Neverland. Thought I had a jolly nice quartet but no, somewhere in my billion stamps there has to be ONE that may be worth a senator's ransom - whatever that means! I am delighted at your inputs. N

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12 Mar 2021
03:19:40am
re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

Once you have scaned an item you can resize it by using Windows paint program, it's a very easy process. Personally I scan everything through Paint it gives me all the options I need.

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I09T09N46

11 Mar 2021
05:23:13am

I cannot see a plate number on this envelope dated May 14 1884
The addressee is Miss E Fraser 66 Upper Seymour Street Euston Square. I have looked and looked at the wiggly bits on the side but cannot see any numbers (mind you they are so tiny one requires an electron microscope to see them) Is this normal for 1844 please? Thank you.
I believe it was posted in Edinburgh Scotland as the Frasers came from there. Elizabeth's brother Alexander was an artist and displayed at the RA.
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This one is posted Edinburgh 1842 no stamp but a post office stamp I think? Unsure what the 'S' stands for? Thank you.
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This one is to Elizabeth Fraser I guess from Edinburgh and also has no plate number.
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11 Mar 2021
05:58:08am

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

1841 Penny reds do not have a plate number unless they are from some Imprimature sheets which are imperf. copies from perforated stamps, and are very hard to come by. The letter A in the postmark refers to moring AM the letter S is possibly a sub-post office.

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I09T09N46

11 Mar 2021
10:15:59am

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

charlie 2009 Thank you for the explanation. Please know you are dealing with a complete novice. When you use the term imperf. do you mean imperforate or imperfect? Do you have a picture of the stamps that are hard to come by please. If I see a piccie I would be able to understand. Apologies for being dim. Can't help it. These are unused. N
Herewith 4 1/2 penny Queen Victoria stamps (date unknown)and the back which are gummed. Is this right?

Just trying to find the plate numbers on the 1/2d stamps. Blimey its so hard.
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FOUND IT PLATE 4 COULDN'T THEY HAVE MADE THE NUMBERS SMALLER??????

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Charlie2009

11 Mar 2021
11:35:35am

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

I meant imperforate and I wish I could show you some unfortunately they are a bit pricy to say the least. Your 1/2 d block alas is on the way to Neverland. A lot of those 1/2 d and 1d stamps had gum that had either ferrite contaminate and/or the cheapest possible gum was used. Remember when they had to gum a few million stamps every penny they could save on production worked out to quite a few pounds in the end and they could lower their tender.
A lot of those, like your block will literally be ripped apart by the gum.Your options: sell that block or wash off the gum and save the stamps. If you wash off the gum it will devalue the block and if you leave it it will eventually totally crack and get torn by the gum.

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david13617

11 Mar 2021
04:56:06pm

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

Although very hard to see from these small scans, it appears that the 1/2d block of 4 may have plate numbers 14. Looks like there may be a 1 below the 4. I agree about them trying to make things even smaller!

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I09T09N46

12 Mar 2021
02:19:28am

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

David i3617 thank you. I did scan them in 600 dpi but the site kept telling me they were too big so cleft stick prevails. Thank you for your kind input. Sadly Charlie 2009 thinks they are on their way to Neverland. Thought I had a jolly nice quartet but no, somewhere in my billion stamps there has to be ONE that may be worth a senator's ransom - whatever that means! I am delighted at your inputs. N

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Charlie2009

12 Mar 2021
03:19:40am

re: Queen Victoria 1844 no plate number?

Once you have scaned an item you can resize it by using Windows paint program, it's a very easy process. Personally I scan everything through Paint it gives me all the options I need.

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