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Kmoorhead

24 Sep 2009
11:58:56pm
I am a youngish collector and would like to tap into the vast expertise of the experienced collectors at SOR. I have a decent Canada collection and would like feedback on other countries that you all find interesting.
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John_macco

25 Sep 2009
05:39:16am
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I find Russia a fascinating country to collect as with most countries, the postage stamps are a billboard to the history of the country. With an interest in space, it was inevitable I would start collecting Russian space stamps then the other stamps of Russia. How long have you been collecting? What interested you in stamps to start collecting? You came to the right place for guidance as we are a very helpful bunch.

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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
08:55:09am
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Thanks John - interestingly I just bought Every Russia stamp from 1971 to 1991 at an auction. It was pretty cheap too, which is nice. I decided that I would stop at 1980 for every country so I could have the entire decade of the 80s available for trade if anyone is interested (there are about 1000 stamps I think). I collected as a kid and have been back at it for almost a year. As for why - it is so addicting to try to complete a country and then see the entire (or almost) history of the country through pictures. Its also appealing for me to collect something with value.

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25 Sep 2009
10:04:30am
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I consider myself a worldwide collector but the country I concentrate on the most other than the US is Great Britain. Besides the fact that that is where my heritage lies, GB is the place where this wonderful hobby began. From the Penny Black to Plate Numbers on the Penny Reds to the complicated QEII Machins, there is never a dull moment.

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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
10:20:42am
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I have actually been looking for a decent auction lot of USA 1950s to 1980 to get sterted on it. Apparently one can pick up a good starter set at around face. Any further advice on USA?

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Joelgrebin

25 Sep 2009
06:07:20pm
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A long time ago, I became interested in the countries that are island nations and out-of- the way places. To me, they were exotic places. Not necessarily GB,the Netherlands, France, et al, but their colonies. Also Places such as Iceland, Aland, Madagascar, Syechelles, the colonies of the South Pacific that became independent, to name a few. That's why I have remained a worldwide collector. With the emphasis on specialization, I prefer to collect worldwide, to travel the world from my stamproom. I buy box lots and and collections. I have had some interesting travels and unexpected surprises. I like to see these countries prior to WW2, when possible.
Joel

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25 Sep 2009
07:31:28pm
re: who collects what and why

On top of my World Wide I really like Canada (where I am from), Great Britain and Germany (the ancestral countries).

I like the stories each individual stamp and set tells, about where they are from and the world at the time they were issued. I prefer sets, doesn't matter where they are from it is the story behind them that is important for me.

One reason I love this hobby is that 'your way' is always the right way.

Cheers,

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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
07:49:21pm
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I also like sets - so its not stupid to just collect "the world". I figure if I am lucky I have 40 years of collecting ahead of me. I wondered if it was too directionless. Do all of you collect used stamps?

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Joelgrebin

25 Sep 2009
10:33:25pm
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I prefer used stamps. However, in my experience,stamps I received on approval were mint stamps. I do not like soaking stamps anymore, unless it is a stamp or stamps that are worthwhile to me. I purchase some country packets, somme boxlots, but I prefer to purchase albums on sale at shows or with dealers or at an auction. That way I get used stamps, for the time periods I am primarily interested in.
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26 Sep 2009
09:23:57am

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US mint can often be had at face or below. I occasionally buy such lots on eBay, and they are often offered in Linn's. Recently I bought a selection of se-tenant commemoratives at about 90% face, including the cost of shipping. So US face lots are plentiful. Earlier US face, like the 3c commemoratives, can often be had for about 80% of face, but you need to buy in bulk. that's generally far more than a beginning collector will ever be able to digest, but it's out there. There are many smaller face lots offered on SOR's auction, but you need to factor in the cost of shipping if you're buying small quantities.

Joel's idea of buying older albums is a good idea IF the stamps they contain are what you need and the cost is right.

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26 Sep 2009
09:35:39am
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I prefer used, but as Joel has mentioned, approvals are generally mint. I try to buy lots and mystery boxes as they have and run the whole gamut.

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Rick

26 Sep 2009
12:58:09pm
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Glad to see I'm not the only collector who is attracted to albums and mystery lots. I treat my collection as an every day Xmas event. I like the surprise and the fact that I can get a sizable number of stamps for a reasonable price. Yet, whenever I've joined a club in the past the more seasoned hobbyists more or less pooh-poohed my approach and made it clear that if I wanted to make money at this (as THEY did) then I should take a more professional approach and simply buy individual stamps or packets. Alyn - you nailed it prefectly - nobody is right or wrong about their collection. It's what works for YOU. The original topic of this thread is what countries have the most interesting stamps. I totally agree with the Russia answer, but hey - it's what appeals to YOU. Personally I'm attracted to the smaller emerging nations of Europe but that's ME.

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26 Sep 2009
01:20:35pm
re: who collects what and why

If I were a more organized person, I would start buying both postal history and stamp accumultions and collections. But I'm not very organized, and my small apartment would soon resemble the Collyer brothers' New York City home.

I have a friend, retired, who routinely buys accumulations and collections, patiently sorts through them and breaks them down into auction lots, and adds and adds great stuff to his collection.

Me, I just buy individual stamps or stamp sets and covers, and spend money. Someone's gotta help out the economy!

Bob I.

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Woodstock

26 Sep 2009
02:43:50pm
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Ditto on the approach Bobstamp's retired friend takes. I have been able to add an amazing number of quality stamps to my collection, both mint and used, while actually recouping my cost and making a profit well beyond my initial outlay.

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
05:13:58pm
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I think that is great way to recoup some of the cost of your stamp purchases. No doubt. I don't have the patience for that type of sorting, or soaking for that matter, or involvement with auction sites and sales. My interest is where the stamp takes me and the reason(s) for the stamp itself. I do have outlets for extra stamps. Stamps with nominal catalog value I donate to Stamps for The Wounded. Other stamps with greater than nominal value I submit to stamp trading circuits. These circuits offer the more elusive or more expensive material. Rather than recoup money I build a cash value balance which allows me to trade up.
Joel

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Kmoorhead

26 Sep 2009
07:07:10pm
re: who collects what and why

So I am not totally crazy (as my wife thinks) by trying to complete a bunch of obscure countries. I have been buying auction lots lately and never had so much fun. Can anyone suggest options for my extras. I will list them on SOR first, but failing any interest I would rather not use ebay. I would rather develop a relationship with a person or group while selling/trading instead of just selling them on ebay (also im not crazy about the fees and in most cases only the really good stuff sells - which I am sure it would on SOR too.
At this point I pretty much am buying whatever I think is interesting, nice or seems like a good deal.
Kevin

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
09:41:57pm
re: who collects what and why

Kevin, the key thing with this hobby is to have fun and enjoy yourself. There are probably as many different ways to collect and maintain a collection as there are stamp collectors. Do whatever works for you. Regarding stamp trades, What I do as I explained previously, is to package the nominal value stamps and donate them. However, you might want to use them for packet trades. HOwever, if you have stamps that have greater than nominal value, say 30 to 50 cents in catalog value, get involved with a trading or sales circuit. If you are a member of APS, for example, they have sales and trading circuits for their members. YOu enter your stamps at catalog value in a booklet and send it out to other circuit members or circuit managers and in return you will receive other circuit books submitted by other members. There are many types of circuits out there. If you are interested in that activity, you should search out the different types of circuits that exist and research carefully any one that you might be intersted in. There are some very good circuit clubs that have been in existance for many years and have good reputations and of course there are bad ones as well. The good ones have been around for awhile. In fact, SOR, had trading circuits at one time, if I'm not mistaken. I find that this a way to enlarge or enhance may collecting efforts and keep cost somewhat under control.
Joel

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Bobstamp
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26 Sep 2009
10:36:59pm
re: who collects what and why

About which countries to collect: While I think some countries are more interesting to collect than others, the truth is that virtually all countries are interesting in their own right, especially if one is willing to delve in depth into their history and their philately.

What is necessary, especially with countries which have gone completely overboard in terms of the number of new issues, is to determine limits to what one considers collectible. An example in my experience is Eire. I planned to collect both mint and used copies of all issues, using Lighthouse albums, and I actually kept it up for a few years. But the new issues were getting more and more frequent, and often silly (sorry, I can't abide "Love" stamps), and keeping the Lighthouse albums up to date was just too expensive. So I eventually settled on collecting only up to the mid-70s or so. That allowed me to concentrate on some of the scarcer stamps.

I've done much the same thing with my U.S. collection, although I've stuck to used stamps only, and limited the collection to the first century, 1847-1947.

In truth, however, I hardly pay any attention to country collections any more. I've moved into thematic collecting, concentrating for several years now on commercial aviation, the wartime economy of Great Britain and Canada, the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF Ferry Command and RAF Bomber Command, and the Vietnam War. I purchase covers and postcards more often than stamps, and often find myself including collateral items such as maps, photographs, baggage labels, military shoulder patches, and airmail etiquettes in my collections.

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
11:53:06pm
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I agree with you Bob, about collecting all that an area or country or whatever entity you wish to collect, has to offer, is a very bit much. I do have parameters that I attempt to follow. That is why I collect country collections, usually that cover certain time periods, say prior to WW2.
I do have a postmark, postal history collections which concentrates on the Oregon Trail, Emigration and all the collateral development of the midwest. I personally have found that Lewis and Clark Corp of Discovery to the turn of the 20th century to be most impressive. From open prairy and mountains and pristine rivers to an agricultural and manufacturing giant in those 100 years is a story beyond imagination. I have walked and ridden those trails when I was much younger and have read the letters and diaries of those pioneers, and collected same along with the postal history as a main collecting focus. I understand your focus on the WW2 material that you have and have read your Joe Hicks story and its follow up and you have done a marvelous job, no question. I still collect ww stamps because of the mystery and suprise one finds in those stamps. The suprise is still there for me.
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Sponthetrona2
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27 Sep 2009
10:52:21am
re: who collects what and why

To throw my two cents worth into this discussion I would like to add that whatever you decide to collect make it a fun assignment. Although I started in the 40's I still get excited if I come across a stamp I already own but is a better issue perhaps in centering or canceling. I started with an old US book passed on to me by my dad, who really was not a good collector, and improved upon it. Filling those empty slots has been a thrill for me most of my life. So, find a country (perhaps your own) and play with it ..... you have your entire life to enjoy it. Perry

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John_macco

28 Sep 2009
06:33:22am
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With the dissolution of the Soviet Union, another area to collect is the independent Russian territories- Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuana, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenstam, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Russia. Pardon the spelling on some of these territories.

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28 Sep 2009
11:20:43am
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I collect WW and ONLY well cntered cancellains showing city and in some cases time they arrived in the PO for a clerk to kill the stamp.
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Kmoorhead

24 Sep 2009
11:58:56pm

I am a youngish collector and would like to tap into the vast expertise of the experienced collectors at SOR. I have a decent Canada collection and would like feedback on other countries that you all find interesting.

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John_macco

25 Sep 2009
05:39:16am

re: who collects what and why

I find Russia a fascinating country to collect as with most countries, the postage stamps are a billboard to the history of the country. With an interest in space, it was inevitable I would start collecting Russian space stamps then the other stamps of Russia. How long have you been collecting? What interested you in stamps to start collecting? You came to the right place for guidance as we are a very helpful bunch.

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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
08:55:09am

re: who collects what and why

Thanks John - interestingly I just bought Every Russia stamp from 1971 to 1991 at an auction. It was pretty cheap too, which is nice. I decided that I would stop at 1980 for every country so I could have the entire decade of the 80s available for trade if anyone is interested (there are about 1000 stamps I think). I collected as a kid and have been back at it for almost a year. As for why - it is so addicting to try to complete a country and then see the entire (or almost) history of the country through pictures. Its also appealing for me to collect something with value.

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I consider myself a worldwide collector but the country I concentrate on the most other than the US is Great Britain. Besides the fact that that is where my heritage lies, GB is the place where this wonderful hobby began. From the Penny Black to Plate Numbers on the Penny Reds to the complicated QEII Machins, there is never a dull moment.

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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
10:20:42am

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I have actually been looking for a decent auction lot of USA 1950s to 1980 to get sterted on it. Apparently one can pick up a good starter set at around face. Any further advice on USA?

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Joelgrebin

25 Sep 2009
06:07:20pm

re: who collects what and why

A long time ago, I became interested in the countries that are island nations and out-of- the way places. To me, they were exotic places. Not necessarily GB,the Netherlands, France, et al, but their colonies. Also Places such as Iceland, Aland, Madagascar, Syechelles, the colonies of the South Pacific that became independent, to name a few. That's why I have remained a worldwide collector. With the emphasis on specialization, I prefer to collect worldwide, to travel the world from my stamproom. I buy box lots and and collections. I have had some interesting travels and unexpected surprises. I like to see these countries prior to WW2, when possible.
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25 Sep 2009
07:31:28pm

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On top of my World Wide I really like Canada (where I am from), Great Britain and Germany (the ancestral countries).

I like the stories each individual stamp and set tells, about where they are from and the world at the time they were issued. I prefer sets, doesn't matter where they are from it is the story behind them that is important for me.

One reason I love this hobby is that 'your way' is always the right way.

Cheers,

Alyn
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Kmoorhead

25 Sep 2009
07:49:21pm

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I also like sets - so its not stupid to just collect "the world". I figure if I am lucky I have 40 years of collecting ahead of me. I wondered if it was too directionless. Do all of you collect used stamps?

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Joelgrebin

25 Sep 2009
10:33:25pm

re: who collects what and why

I prefer used stamps. However, in my experience,stamps I received on approval were mint stamps. I do not like soaking stamps anymore, unless it is a stamp or stamps that are worthwhile to me. I purchase some country packets, somme boxlots, but I prefer to purchase albums on sale at shows or with dealers or at an auction. That way I get used stamps, for the time periods I am primarily interested in.
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26 Sep 2009
09:23:57am

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US mint can often be had at face or below. I occasionally buy such lots on eBay, and they are often offered in Linn's. Recently I bought a selection of se-tenant commemoratives at about 90% face, including the cost of shipping. So US face lots are plentiful. Earlier US face, like the 3c commemoratives, can often be had for about 80% of face, but you need to buy in bulk. that's generally far more than a beginning collector will ever be able to digest, but it's out there. There are many smaller face lots offered on SOR's auction, but you need to factor in the cost of shipping if you're buying small quantities.

Joel's idea of buying older albums is a good idea IF the stamps they contain are what you need and the cost is right.

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26 Sep 2009
09:35:39am

re: who collects what and why

I prefer used, but as Joel has mentioned, approvals are generally mint. I try to buy lots and mystery boxes as they have and run the whole gamut.

Alyn
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Rick

26 Sep 2009
12:58:09pm

re: who collects what and why

Glad to see I'm not the only collector who is attracted to albums and mystery lots. I treat my collection as an every day Xmas event. I like the surprise and the fact that I can get a sizable number of stamps for a reasonable price. Yet, whenever I've joined a club in the past the more seasoned hobbyists more or less pooh-poohed my approach and made it clear that if I wanted to make money at this (as THEY did) then I should take a more professional approach and simply buy individual stamps or packets. Alyn - you nailed it prefectly - nobody is right or wrong about their collection. It's what works for YOU. The original topic of this thread is what countries have the most interesting stamps. I totally agree with the Russia answer, but hey - it's what appeals to YOU. Personally I'm attracted to the smaller emerging nations of Europe but that's ME.

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26 Sep 2009
01:20:35pm

re: who collects what and why

If I were a more organized person, I would start buying both postal history and stamp accumultions and collections. But I'm not very organized, and my small apartment would soon resemble the Collyer brothers' New York City home.

I have a friend, retired, who routinely buys accumulations and collections, patiently sorts through them and breaks them down into auction lots, and adds and adds great stuff to his collection.

Me, I just buy individual stamps or stamp sets and covers, and spend money. Someone's gotta help out the economy!

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26 Sep 2009
02:43:50pm

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Ditto on the approach Bobstamp's retired friend takes. I have been able to add an amazing number of quality stamps to my collection, both mint and used, while actually recouping my cost and making a profit well beyond my initial outlay.

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
05:13:58pm

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I think that is great way to recoup some of the cost of your stamp purchases. No doubt. I don't have the patience for that type of sorting, or soaking for that matter, or involvement with auction sites and sales. My interest is where the stamp takes me and the reason(s) for the stamp itself. I do have outlets for extra stamps. Stamps with nominal catalog value I donate to Stamps for The Wounded. Other stamps with greater than nominal value I submit to stamp trading circuits. These circuits offer the more elusive or more expensive material. Rather than recoup money I build a cash value balance which allows me to trade up.
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Kmoorhead

26 Sep 2009
07:07:10pm

re: who collects what and why

So I am not totally crazy (as my wife thinks) by trying to complete a bunch of obscure countries. I have been buying auction lots lately and never had so much fun. Can anyone suggest options for my extras. I will list them on SOR first, but failing any interest I would rather not use ebay. I would rather develop a relationship with a person or group while selling/trading instead of just selling them on ebay (also im not crazy about the fees and in most cases only the really good stuff sells - which I am sure it would on SOR too.
At this point I pretty much am buying whatever I think is interesting, nice or seems like a good deal.
Kevin

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
09:41:57pm

re: who collects what and why

Kevin, the key thing with this hobby is to have fun and enjoy yourself. There are probably as many different ways to collect and maintain a collection as there are stamp collectors. Do whatever works for you. Regarding stamp trades, What I do as I explained previously, is to package the nominal value stamps and donate them. However, you might want to use them for packet trades. HOwever, if you have stamps that have greater than nominal value, say 30 to 50 cents in catalog value, get involved with a trading or sales circuit. If you are a member of APS, for example, they have sales and trading circuits for their members. YOu enter your stamps at catalog value in a booklet and send it out to other circuit members or circuit managers and in return you will receive other circuit books submitted by other members. There are many types of circuits out there. If you are interested in that activity, you should search out the different types of circuits that exist and research carefully any one that you might be intersted in. There are some very good circuit clubs that have been in existance for many years and have good reputations and of course there are bad ones as well. The good ones have been around for awhile. In fact, SOR, had trading circuits at one time, if I'm not mistaken. I find that this a way to enlarge or enhance may collecting efforts and keep cost somewhat under control.
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26 Sep 2009
10:36:59pm

re: who collects what and why

About which countries to collect: While I think some countries are more interesting to collect than others, the truth is that virtually all countries are interesting in their own right, especially if one is willing to delve in depth into their history and their philately.

What is necessary, especially with countries which have gone completely overboard in terms of the number of new issues, is to determine limits to what one considers collectible. An example in my experience is Eire. I planned to collect both mint and used copies of all issues, using Lighthouse albums, and I actually kept it up for a few years. But the new issues were getting more and more frequent, and often silly (sorry, I can't abide "Love" stamps), and keeping the Lighthouse albums up to date was just too expensive. So I eventually settled on collecting only up to the mid-70s or so. That allowed me to concentrate on some of the scarcer stamps.

I've done much the same thing with my U.S. collection, although I've stuck to used stamps only, and limited the collection to the first century, 1847-1947.

In truth, however, I hardly pay any attention to country collections any more. I've moved into thematic collecting, concentrating for several years now on commercial aviation, the wartime economy of Great Britain and Canada, the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF Ferry Command and RAF Bomber Command, and the Vietnam War. I purchase covers and postcards more often than stamps, and often find myself including collateral items such as maps, photographs, baggage labels, military shoulder patches, and airmail etiquettes in my collections.

Bob I.

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Joelgrebin

26 Sep 2009
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I agree with you Bob, about collecting all that an area or country or whatever entity you wish to collect, has to offer, is a very bit much. I do have parameters that I attempt to follow. That is why I collect country collections, usually that cover certain time periods, say prior to WW2.
I do have a postmark, postal history collections which concentrates on the Oregon Trail, Emigration and all the collateral development of the midwest. I personally have found that Lewis and Clark Corp of Discovery to the turn of the 20th century to be most impressive. From open prairy and mountains and pristine rivers to an agricultural and manufacturing giant in those 100 years is a story beyond imagination. I have walked and ridden those trails when I was much younger and have read the letters and diaries of those pioneers, and collected same along with the postal history as a main collecting focus. I understand your focus on the WW2 material that you have and have read your Joe Hicks story and its follow up and you have done a marvelous job, no question. I still collect ww stamps because of the mystery and suprise one finds in those stamps. The suprise is still there for me.
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27 Sep 2009
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re: who collects what and why

To throw my two cents worth into this discussion I would like to add that whatever you decide to collect make it a fun assignment. Although I started in the 40's I still get excited if I come across a stamp I already own but is a better issue perhaps in centering or canceling. I started with an old US book passed on to me by my dad, who really was not a good collector, and improved upon it. Filling those empty slots has been a thrill for me most of my life. So, find a country (perhaps your own) and play with it ..... you have your entire life to enjoy it. Perry

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John_macco

28 Sep 2009
06:33:22am

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With the dissolution of the Soviet Union, another area to collect is the independent Russian territories- Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuana, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenstam, Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Russia. Pardon the spelling on some of these territories.

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28 Sep 2009
11:20:43am

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I collect WW and ONLY well cntered cancellains showing city and in some cases time they arrived in the PO for a clerk to kill the stamp.
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LuisM
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