Great cover! I like the postage due marks as well. Would you consider parting with it?
Mike Cherrington (kovertx)
m_dtexas@suddenink.net
Hi Mike
Cover belongs to a friend of mine who has asked me to list it on 'Greedbay' for him. Hope to list it soon.
Tom
For my personal benefit and that of others: What is the significance of this cover? Why would anyone pay more than $1-2 for this apparent piece of junk? Not knowing anything else, I sure wouldn't ... Maybe someone can educate me?
(Message edited by rhinelander on February 19, 2011)
Although I have no particular interest in this steamboat cover I do collect railroad RPO covers. I am a very large model RR fan and train chaser so trains are as much, if not more, a passion for me than postage stamps. So yes, collecting a cover with something that interests you can be as much fun as finding a stamp you've been missing for years. Perry
When I posted this 'piece of junk' it was NOT because I thought it was of particular value -- I simply thought the combination of the Steamboat cancel and the Postage Due mark MIGHT be of some interest!
What's that old saying......'One man's junk is another man's treasure'
Tom
Tom,
I certainly did not mean to offend you -- or anybody -- with my question. See, we all have seen many postings here of entirely worthless, damaged stamps someone thought might present a treasure just because the stamp was old (old being defined as "before the war"). Same is true for covers. Condition is very important and not every cover has collectors' interest (and thus monetary value). I see a torn in half postal stationary envelope, which is worthless. Add $1 for a potentially interesting auxilliary marking, and here you have my valuation.
However, I also understand that one man's junk may be another man's treasure. Especially in collecting covers. So, I was wondering, why would this cover potentially present someone else's treasure? I know nothing about steam boat covers. Are steam boat covers really that rare, maybe $200 value covers (?), which properly discounted for abysmal condition could yield $20 cash net (?). Or what about the 2c postage due? Is there something way cool about it that I am missing? I am not being ironic. I simply don't know ...
Arno
...a great time to educate us all, guys and gals!!
How many out there can jump in here and give us all a lesson on steamboat/postage due aux. markings?!?
I'm always anxious to advance my knowledge on these things.
Randy
Arno:
The steamboat cover in discussion might not have a lot of value in financial terms which true of most of what is in our collections. An obvious example is first day covers which are still widely collected and very popular but which sell very poorly.
The steamboat cover, to me, has lots of appeal, especially with the postage due markings. I imagine what a story it would tell if only it could talk. In a way, it can, since it went by steamboat (not commonly seen today) but was short paid for some reason which causes collectors like me to like it even more.
No, it has little commercial value, granted. But try and find another like it.
Choose your worlds more carefully.
MIke Cherrington
'Choose your worlds more carefully.'
Now that's irony!
(Message edited by Airship on February 22, 2011)
Professor O. Beatty of Danville, KY:
http://www.centre.edu/web/library/ency/b/beatty.html
I cannot make out the date on the cover, but the below link offers some interesting insight into Beatty's situation during the Civil War.
http://www.centre.edu/web/library/sc/special/perryville/index.htm
it looks like June 1865, so a couple months after the war's end. Cairo was the terminus for the river and the starting point for all supplies for the occupation troops along the river. the river and its forts were captured early in the war by Gen Grant and Sherman, primarily. both were innovative and aggressive soldiers who understood tactics AND strategy and used one to accomplish the other. The two are among the country's most underrated generals.
I don't know Steamboat rates, but i'm guessing there's a 2c surcharge based on the due marking?
Count me among this cover's admirers.
David
" ... 'Choose your worlds more carefully.'
Now that's irony!
...."
And possibly Freudian ! ;)
Thought this might be of interest to some members.
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Great cover! I like the postage due marks as well. Would you consider parting with it?
Mike Cherrington (kovertx)
m_dtexas@suddenink.net
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Hi Mike
Cover belongs to a friend of mine who has asked me to list it on 'Greedbay' for him. Hope to list it soon.
Tom
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
For my personal benefit and that of others: What is the significance of this cover? Why would anyone pay more than $1-2 for this apparent piece of junk? Not knowing anything else, I sure wouldn't ... Maybe someone can educate me?
(Message edited by rhinelander on February 19, 2011)
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Although I have no particular interest in this steamboat cover I do collect railroad RPO covers. I am a very large model RR fan and train chaser so trains are as much, if not more, a passion for me than postage stamps. So yes, collecting a cover with something that interests you can be as much fun as finding a stamp you've been missing for years. Perry
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
When I posted this 'piece of junk' it was NOT because I thought it was of particular value -- I simply thought the combination of the Steamboat cancel and the Postage Due mark MIGHT be of some interest!
What's that old saying......'One man's junk is another man's treasure'
Tom
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Tom,
I certainly did not mean to offend you -- or anybody -- with my question. See, we all have seen many postings here of entirely worthless, damaged stamps someone thought might present a treasure just because the stamp was old (old being defined as "before the war"). Same is true for covers. Condition is very important and not every cover has collectors' interest (and thus monetary value). I see a torn in half postal stationary envelope, which is worthless. Add $1 for a potentially interesting auxilliary marking, and here you have my valuation.
However, I also understand that one man's junk may be another man's treasure. Especially in collecting covers. So, I was wondering, why would this cover potentially present someone else's treasure? I know nothing about steam boat covers. Are steam boat covers really that rare, maybe $200 value covers (?), which properly discounted for abysmal condition could yield $20 cash net (?). Or what about the 2c postage due? Is there something way cool about it that I am missing? I am not being ironic. I simply don't know ...
Arno
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
...a great time to educate us all, guys and gals!!
How many out there can jump in here and give us all a lesson on steamboat/postage due aux. markings?!?
I'm always anxious to advance my knowledge on these things.
Randy
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Arno:
The steamboat cover in discussion might not have a lot of value in financial terms which true of most of what is in our collections. An obvious example is first day covers which are still widely collected and very popular but which sell very poorly.
The steamboat cover, to me, has lots of appeal, especially with the postage due markings. I imagine what a story it would tell if only it could talk. In a way, it can, since it went by steamboat (not commonly seen today) but was short paid for some reason which causes collectors like me to like it even more.
No, it has little commercial value, granted. But try and find another like it.
Choose your worlds more carefully.
MIke Cherrington
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
'Choose your worlds more carefully.'
Now that's irony!
(Message edited by Airship on February 22, 2011)
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
Professor O. Beatty of Danville, KY:
http://www.centre.edu/web/library/ency/b/beatty.html
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
I cannot make out the date on the cover, but the below link offers some interesting insight into Beatty's situation during the Civil War.
http://www.centre.edu/web/library/sc/special/perryville/index.htm
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
it looks like June 1865, so a couple months after the war's end. Cairo was the terminus for the river and the starting point for all supplies for the occupation troops along the river. the river and its forts were captured early in the war by Gen Grant and Sherman, primarily. both were innovative and aggressive soldiers who understood tactics AND strategy and used one to accomplish the other. The two are among the country's most underrated generals.
I don't know Steamboat rates, but i'm guessing there's a 2c surcharge based on the due marking?
Count me among this cover's admirers.
David
re: Steamboat Cover -- Cairo, Illinois
" ... 'Choose your worlds more carefully.'
Now that's irony!
...."
And possibly Freudian ! ;)