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07 Feb 2010
11:22:12am
A new addition to my US Airmail covers collection check the image below:
C31_cover
Better high resolution image could be posted later, this is just to try my hand at image posting in a message.
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Stevenkok

09 Feb 2010
01:07:06am
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This is a nice cover Saleem. certainly a nice addition to your collection. From what I know, C31 covers between 1941 and 1944 is pricier. Steve Davis may be able to provide more information.

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09 Feb 2010
10:43:57am
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Hi Steven, the usage of C31 in the war years was very much limited for single usage destinations which were Trans-Pacific, Asia and Africa for ½ oz letter. This stamp saw proper single usage immediately after the end of II World War.
This 50c stamp has the primary purpose of paying the fifty-cents-per-half-ounce transpacific airmail rate to the Philippine Islands. It also found usage for partial payment with other stamps to pay some higher international airmail rates then in effect. Solo (single stamp) usages were occasionally possible by paying for combinations of lower airmail rates along with registry or Special Delivery service. While the stamp's primary intended use was for airmail to the Philippine Islands, airmail service over the Pacific Ocean was interrupted only five weeks after this stamp was issued. Beginning December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, bombing by the Empire of Japan, the transpacific routes were closed beyond Hawaii for almost four years, not resuming until late in 1945. Most airmail letters mailed after November 15 en-route to the Far East were returned to the senders and marked as "service suspended."

Now those returned covers or the ones which reached their destinations are very much sought after by postal history collectors. The one I got in an auction after a long wait and after missing a few by not being able to bid at the last moment (time zone differences). I am glad that I have it finally in my collection maybe later if I get some early usage at an affordable price I would go for it.
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09 Feb 2010
12:58:56pm
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As of November 1, 1946 the airmail rate to Rest of World (other than Europe and Western Hemisphere) became 25c per 1/2 oz. This was part of the institution of Uniform Airmail Rates, West Hemi became 10c , with Europe and Med area at 15c both per 1/2 oz.

Prior to this date rates were all over the place and very high up to $1.10 per 1/2 for some destinations

Usages of the Transport Airmail Issue 1941 - 1944 are more desirable before the Uniform Rates came in.

The illustrated cover is 2x the 25c per oz rate to Rest of World (New Zealand in this case). Still and all a nice cover.

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09 Feb 2010
01:25:55pm
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the heads-up on the rates info, but I have the information that these uniform rates came into effect on 1st October 1946 - a month earlier than you mentioned in your post.
Here are the uniform rates I have:
5c Domestic - 1st October 1946 to 31st May, 1949
10c Central and South America and Caribbean ½oz. letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th June, 1961
15c Europe including USSR, Parts of Middle East and Mediterranean Africa ½oz letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th April, 1967
25c International airmail to Asia, South Pacific and parts of Africa ½oz. letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th June, 1971

I'm not collecting the rates on covers but just want to have the airmail stamps used as singles paying proper postage preferably in rate period, therefore I think that this cover and the C46(in another message here) are good additions for the display of single usages, I will replace these if and when more accurate covers are found but till then these will have to do :-).
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10 Feb 2010
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let me know when you're pitchig this cover, Saleem

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10 Feb 2010
08:38:00am
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Have some heart - I got this after a number of failed tries and am still gawking at it, having my fill :-)
When I get a proper usage I will offer it here or maybe in an exchange for something I am missing.
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14 Feb 2010
07:58:09pm
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Saleem the October 1, 1946 rate was domestic only to 5c airmail rate. You are misinformed.

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Harley

14 Feb 2010
09:55:21pm
re: C31 on commercial cover

Stamperdad,
He got the start right,10/1/46,,it is the end that is incorrect--
5c domestic air- Oct 1 ,1946,to ((Dec.) 31, 19(48)--12/31/48--not 5/31/49
per ounce.
TOM
The C31 cover is correct posatage for a one ounce letter/air to New Zealand(25c per 1/2 ounce)--if this IS a one ounce letter.??

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15 Feb 2010
11:32:22am
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Hi Steve,
I don't have the book "Airmail Rates" - only the exerpts that you have so kindly referred earlier, therefore I am at a loss as to which rate table to follow - there are some websites having different information than the one I had earlier therefore I corrected my tables. What I need is some conclusive information about the early airmail rates - any help will be greatly appreciated.
PS - Do have an extra C146 - 79c cover mailed to Mexico - but need the C133 and C138 on covers mailed to Canada.

Thaks Tom for the correct date of rate end, so the 6c domestic airmail rate came into effect from 1st January 1949 and continued till 31st July 1958?

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Harley

15 Feb 2010
04:15:33pm
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Saleem,
yes,6c domestic-per ounce-
jan/1/49 to july/31/58
TOM

(Message edited by HARLEY on February 15, 2010)

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15 Feb 2010
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Thanks Tom my list updated.

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16 Feb 2010
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Saleem I wouldn't believe websites on rates. I have the W&B rate books which are the bibles for US rates. There is no doubt that on November 1, 1946 uniform international rates of 10c, 15c, and 25c per 1/2 oz were introduced. Domestically the 5c rate period was from October 1, 1946 until January 1, 1949. 5c per oz and it was also extended to US Possessions and Territories. This area is an area of my specialization.

The tables from these books W&B I emailed you are accurate.

Saleem the c133 to Canada is almost impossible to find. I'm still looking. C134 to Mexico is the same. Been looking for these for a couple of years now.

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16 Feb 2010
10:48:59am
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Harley - The cover is most likely double-paid 25c per 1/2 oz plus additional oz or portion thereof. It is business mail so it makes sense. Very nice usage.

The primary purpose of the 50c Transport was to pay the airmail rate to the Philippines (50c per 1/2 oz) Dec 7, 1941 closed that airmail route so legitimate usages of that are extremely valuable.

The Transports by GH Davis (no relation) is the best book on that period. Great for rates too.

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07 Feb 2010
11:22:12am

A new addition to my US Airmail covers collection check the image below:
C31_cover
Better high resolution image could be posted later, this is just to try my hand at image posting in a message.
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09 Feb 2010
01:07:06am

re: C31 on commercial cover

This is a nice cover Saleem. certainly a nice addition to your collection. From what I know, C31 covers between 1941 and 1944 is pricier. Steve Davis may be able to provide more information.

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09 Feb 2010
10:43:57am

re: C31 on commercial cover

Hi Steven, the usage of C31 in the war years was very much limited for single usage destinations which were Trans-Pacific, Asia and Africa for ½ oz letter. This stamp saw proper single usage immediately after the end of II World War.
This 50c stamp has the primary purpose of paying the fifty-cents-per-half-ounce transpacific airmail rate to the Philippine Islands. It also found usage for partial payment with other stamps to pay some higher international airmail rates then in effect. Solo (single stamp) usages were occasionally possible by paying for combinations of lower airmail rates along with registry or Special Delivery service. While the stamp's primary intended use was for airmail to the Philippine Islands, airmail service over the Pacific Ocean was interrupted only five weeks after this stamp was issued. Beginning December 7, 1941, the date of the Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, bombing by the Empire of Japan, the transpacific routes were closed beyond Hawaii for almost four years, not resuming until late in 1945. Most airmail letters mailed after November 15 en-route to the Far East were returned to the senders and marked as "service suspended."

Now those returned covers or the ones which reached their destinations are very much sought after by postal history collectors. The one I got in an auction after a long wait and after missing a few by not being able to bid at the last moment (time zone differences). I am glad that I have it finally in my collection maybe later if I get some early usage at an affordable price I would go for it.
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09 Feb 2010
12:58:56pm

re: C31 on commercial cover

As of November 1, 1946 the airmail rate to Rest of World (other than Europe and Western Hemisphere) became 25c per 1/2 oz. This was part of the institution of Uniform Airmail Rates, West Hemi became 10c , with Europe and Med area at 15c both per 1/2 oz.

Prior to this date rates were all over the place and very high up to $1.10 per 1/2 for some destinations

Usages of the Transport Airmail Issue 1941 - 1944 are more desirable before the Uniform Rates came in.

The illustrated cover is 2x the 25c per oz rate to Rest of World (New Zealand in this case). Still and all a nice cover.

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09 Feb 2010
01:25:55pm

re: C31 on commercial cover

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the heads-up on the rates info, but I have the information that these uniform rates came into effect on 1st October 1946 - a month earlier than you mentioned in your post.
Here are the uniform rates I have:
5c Domestic - 1st October 1946 to 31st May, 1949
10c Central and South America and Caribbean ½oz. letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th June, 1961
15c Europe including USSR, Parts of Middle East and Mediterranean Africa ½oz letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th April, 1967
25c International airmail to Asia, South Pacific and parts of Africa ½oz. letter - 1st October, 1946 to 30th June, 1971

I'm not collecting the rates on covers but just want to have the airmail stamps used as singles paying proper postage preferably in rate period, therefore I think that this cover and the C46(in another message here) are good additions for the display of single usages, I will replace these if and when more accurate covers are found but till then these will have to do :-).
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10 Feb 2010
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10 Feb 2010
08:38:00am

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Have some heart - I got this after a number of failed tries and am still gawking at it, having my fill :-)
When I get a proper usage I will offer it here or maybe in an exchange for something I am missing.
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14 Feb 2010
07:58:09pm

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Saleem the October 1, 1946 rate was domestic only to 5c airmail rate. You are misinformed.

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Harley

14 Feb 2010
09:55:21pm

re: C31 on commercial cover

Stamperdad,
He got the start right,10/1/46,,it is the end that is incorrect--
5c domestic air- Oct 1 ,1946,to ((Dec.) 31, 19(48)--12/31/48--not 5/31/49
per ounce.
TOM
The C31 cover is correct posatage for a one ounce letter/air to New Zealand(25c per 1/2 ounce)--if this IS a one ounce letter.??

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15 Feb 2010
11:32:22am

re: C31 on commercial cover

Hi Steve,
I don't have the book "Airmail Rates" - only the exerpts that you have so kindly referred earlier, therefore I am at a loss as to which rate table to follow - there are some websites having different information than the one I had earlier therefore I corrected my tables. What I need is some conclusive information about the early airmail rates - any help will be greatly appreciated.
PS - Do have an extra C146 - 79c cover mailed to Mexico - but need the C133 and C138 on covers mailed to Canada.

Thaks Tom for the correct date of rate end, so the 6c domestic airmail rate came into effect from 1st January 1949 and continued till 31st July 1958?

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15 Feb 2010
04:15:33pm

re: C31 on commercial cover

Saleem,
yes,6c domestic-per ounce-
jan/1/49 to july/31/58
TOM

(Message edited by HARLEY on February 15, 2010)

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15 Feb 2010
10:16:38pm

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Thanks Tom my list updated.

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16 Feb 2010
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Saleem I wouldn't believe websites on rates. I have the W&B rate books which are the bibles for US rates. There is no doubt that on November 1, 1946 uniform international rates of 10c, 15c, and 25c per 1/2 oz were introduced. Domestically the 5c rate period was from October 1, 1946 until January 1, 1949. 5c per oz and it was also extended to US Possessions and Territories. This area is an area of my specialization.

The tables from these books W&B I emailed you are accurate.

Saleem the c133 to Canada is almost impossible to find. I'm still looking. C134 to Mexico is the same. Been looking for these for a couple of years now.

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16 Feb 2010
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re: C31 on commercial cover

Harley - The cover is most likely double-paid 25c per 1/2 oz plus additional oz or portion thereof. It is business mail so it makes sense. Very nice usage.

The primary purpose of the 50c Transport was to pay the airmail rate to the Philippines (50c per 1/2 oz) Dec 7, 1941 closed that airmail route so legitimate usages of that are extremely valuable.

The Transports by GH Davis (no relation) is the best book on that period. Great for rates too.

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