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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Rarer than an Inverted Jenny

 

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04 Aug 2011
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I've been adding articles to a new online magazine. I have been cross pollinating here, usually in excerpted form. When I write for the mag, I write as if the reader knows nothing about stamps, covers, or whatever. Here I can use our philatelic shorthand and expect that most of us have the same basic knowlege. It's the additions to the specialist's bank of knowlege that makes it appropriate for this forum as well.


I recently acquired a tied Christmas seal. It's from 1975, which in itself is fairly rare (only 11, including mine, are recorded) and it's tied to a cover with a Guam postmark, which is very rare (only 3, including mine, are known throughout the entire 105-year history of US Christmas seals). xyz


If you'd like to see the whole article, take a look at http://juicyheads.com/link.php?PLHTMQOO.

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05 Aug 2011
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That's awesome David.

I first tried my hand at exhibiting my Berlin Airlift FDC's at AmeriStamp last February. I had hand painted FDC's of which only 10 or 20 were created. I had a unique Artist Proof cachet with hand written notes on it. I received a Silver-Bronze medal for the exhibit which I was pretty happy with considering it was my first time but I was pretty bummed to read in the critique that the material was common and not difficult to find. Many of these items were much less common than the Inverted Jenny but obviously their demand is not that great.

One day I'm going to scan the exhibit and post it here when I find time.

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Bob, that was the crux of my piece: rarity is seldome the important factor.

Was AmeriStamp an AFDC show or general show. AFDC folks should know that various cachet makers are unique and their wares valuable or not based on many factors. A hand-painted FDC should qualify as something completely different, especially to a judge, from an artmaster cachet. And amassing a collection of limited-run hand-painted cachets should be considered a feat and a fete.

thanks for the kind words on the article. It's interesting because I stumbled on the cover, but knew it was something special immediately. that said, I think my sole bid speaks for itself on the demand side.

so, do we get to see the Berlin Airflift exhibit? I, for one, would love to see it. It's one of the most intersting chapters of early cold war interaction and shows the West, for once, to good effect.

David

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05 Aug 2011
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Dear David,
A very nice find, and a delightful article. Thanks for bringing it home to SOR.
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05 Aug 2011
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It was an APS Show. My local club, The West Essex Philatelic Society entered the single frame group exhibit. We had five exhibitors all in different catagories. For four of us it was our first time exhibiting. The other member has won Gold at National and International level. We came in 5th place out of eight groups.

I think the problem with my exhibit was that I tried to make it like an article. I started with the technical aspects (Different Cancels and locations) then tried to tell the story of the Berlin Airlift through cachets. With the material I have I could not have created a single frame of either one of those. I was not trying to show every cachet ever created and left out a number of great cachets because they did not add to the story or did not have anything special about them technically. I stated my mission on the Title Page and Synopsis Page but it seemed to me the judges did not take this into consideration. Their critique stated that one frame exhibits for FDC's are for early or rare FDC's and it should have been a multi-frame exhibit. My other problem is that I don't have a very good sense of layout design. This is one of the reasons I have no interest in designing my own stamp albums.

I'm not complaining. I was very happy just to receive some sort of medal. I just wanted to show how neat FDC's are as they seem to have a negative connotation with many collectors.

I was happy the way the exhibit turned out and have no interest in improving it or even exhibiting again. It's just not my thing.

I'll try to scan it and post it this weekend.

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A big problem with philatelic judging is that judges are a) human and b) often are well-heeled "old-school" snobs who believe that ligitimate exhibits consist only of mint sets of classic stamps and rare classic covers.

It is urban myth, but myth based on quite a bit of exhibiting history, that a collection of modern stamps cannot win gold. I've seen modern exhibits get gold medals, but it's rare; exhibits of rare mint stamps and classic, rare covers are almost certain to get gold, if not the Grand or Reserve Grand awards.

The most egregious example I've seen is a one-frame exhibit of sloppily assembled rare covers, many with the only known examples of dead post office CDS cancellations. It was visually ugly and what write-up there was provided virtually no information, but the exhibitor was "good old boy" and he got the
Grand Award for the show.

There is also the problem that, traditionally, one-frame exhibits were used to exhibit only philatleic material that was so rare (which is not to say expensive) that the exhibitor could only fill one frame, and the exhibit was considered to be as complete as it could be. One of our chief judges for Vanpex (I believe it was Tim Bartshe). I believe it was who told us in his keynote speech that he believes one-frame exhibits are the best way to encourage collectors to begin exhibiting. Tim wanted to toss out the old rules, and allow one-frame exhibits to serve as samplers of collections.

I think it's a great idea, and I've encouraged members of my stamp club, the sponsor of Vanpex, to jump into exhibiting by creating a one-frame exhibit. A few have come on board with that idea. One, a doctor, decided to do two frames about polio, and told me he has enough material for 32 frames.

At the end of the day, the goal of exhibiting should not be for medals, although they are nice to have, but for the education you receive about your own collections. I have exhibited five times now, with five different exhibits, ranging from one frame to five frames, and each one has provided me with what amounts to a college course about the subject of the exhibit.

A final thought: Believe it or not, philatelic judges are not gods. They do not live on some philatelic Olympus. They are human, and individual judges exihbit human traits, from pure cussedness to saintliness. Even more important, they do not and cannot know everything about all of philately. And sometimes they jump to conclusions. A friend of mine got only a silver medal for what in the opinion of most people was a gold medal exhibit if ever there was one; the reason for the silver was that the exhibit was missing a particular cover representative of something or other. The problem was that such covers simply do not exist, but the judge believed that they did exist.

One more example: Another friend has a wonderful exhibit about the Japanese Occupation of Malaya, or perhaps some other Southeast Asia country. He's only gotten a silver medal for it because it too is missing a cover. In this case, he could buy the only such cover in existence, assuming the owner wished to sell it, for $2,500 or thereabouts. My friend cannot afford that cover, so his exhibit, which is wonderfully educational and gorgeous to look at, is doomed to be a silver-medal winner.

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05 Aug 2011
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Bob, it's true that I did learn a lot more about both the technical aspects of the FDC and the story behind the Berlin Airlift.

I didn't collect that issue because I was previously interested in the Berlin Airlift, but because I collect FDC's that are issued on 6/26. This happened to be one of those issues. While I knew there were two locations where they had cereomonies (Berlin Station in Germany and Malmsteen AFB in Montana) I never noticed that there were two different Berlin cancels. I also have FDC's of this issue postmarked with a FDC cancel in Washington, DC. Turns out that there was another stamp set issued that day for the Folk Musicians in DC. When the cachet maker sent the covers for processing they put the wrong cancel on those covers. It actually took me a while to figure that one out even though I collect the Folk Musician FDC's too.

It was an interesting process. I totally agree with your assessment of the one frame exhibit. My goal was to showcase how interesting FDC collecting can be.

Bob

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05 Aug 2011
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Before I start scanning, do the rules on the exhibit page still apply, 75dpi and 150kb max for each image?

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05 Aug 2011
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Hi Bob,
If you mean what are the limits on what the discussion board will allow as far as image upload, the total size limit is 300kb, the dimensions are 950 X 1200.

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05 Aug 2011
07:45:32pm
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Tim,

I'm talking about scans for the Exhibit page. The instructions state

Summary

Here is what you need to do. All steps are explained in much greater detail below.


•Contact the webmaster at sor.webmaster@gmail.com to get an ID for your exhibit pages (see Filenames below)
•Scan your pages at an effective resolution of 75 dpi and save as JPEG (see Scanning Tips)
•Upload your files via FTP (preferred) or e-mail to exhibits@stamporama.com and notify the webmaster that you have done so. (see Uploading Files).
•That's it! Your pages will soon be on-line.

Scanning Tips for Members' Exhibits

There are some tricks you can use to get the best filesize/quality compromise. The goal is to generate pages that average 100kB or less, and no bigger than 150kB, while maintaining a clarity that allows text to be easily read.

These numbers sound like they were meant for the early 2000's when server space was at a permium and download speeds were very slow.

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Bob

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Sorry Bob, I miss-understood. Just send me the images of the exhibit pages to me and I'll post them for you.

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20 Aug 2011
12:38:10am
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Bobstamp,

You don't a good case for someone to want to exhibit. Regardless, I want you to know that I will be entering a one-frame exhibit in Vanpex this year. Perhaps I just should ignore the critiques.

Simothecat (Jan)

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21 Aug 2011
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Jan,

Honestly, it just wasn't for me. I know many people who love doing it. I also have no interest in creating my own albums. I've tried, and gave up very quickly. Many members here love creating their own albums. I'm glad I did it though and actually did better than I thought, even though the things I was criticized for were not what I was expecting.

Good luck with your exhibit. If you had fun creating it, that's all that matters.

Bob

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Bob Parkin (Parkinlot),

Jan's posting was aimed at me, based on my statements about exhibiting, judges, and judges. I was mainly trying to point out that the judging of exhibits is of little importance compared to the benefits the exhibitor gets from exhibiting.

Many exhibitors see the medal they get as almost the only goal of exhibiting. That's especially true of exhibitors whose primary goal is to get a gold medal, or, better yet, an exhibition's grand or reserve grand award, because such awards from prestigious exhibitions can greatly increase the cash value of an exhibit. I think that that attitude hurts philately, and I'm afraid that some judges perpetuate the problem.

I would certainly never ignore a judge's comments about my exhibits, but neither would I necessarily take them to heart. They constitute information, which may or may not be valuable to me. Ultimately, it's me who judges me.

Jan, I'll look forward to seeing your exhibit.

Bob Ingraham (Bobstamp)

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I've been adding articles to a new online magazine. I have been cross pollinating here, usually in excerpted form. When I write for the mag, I write as if the reader knows nothing about stamps, covers, or whatever. Here I can use our philatelic shorthand and expect that most of us have the same basic knowlege. It's the additions to the specialist's bank of knowlege that makes it appropriate for this forum as well.


I recently acquired a tied Christmas seal. It's from 1975, which in itself is fairly rare (only 11, including mine, are recorded) and it's tied to a cover with a Guam postmark, which is very rare (only 3, including mine, are known throughout the entire 105-year history of US Christmas seals). xyz


If you'd like to see the whole article, take a look at http://juicyheads.com/link.php?PLHTMQOO.

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re: Rarer than an Inverted Jenny

That's awesome David.

I first tried my hand at exhibiting my Berlin Airlift FDC's at AmeriStamp last February. I had hand painted FDC's of which only 10 or 20 were created. I had a unique Artist Proof cachet with hand written notes on it. I received a Silver-Bronze medal for the exhibit which I was pretty happy with considering it was my first time but I was pretty bummed to read in the critique that the material was common and not difficult to find. Many of these items were much less common than the Inverted Jenny but obviously their demand is not that great.

One day I'm going to scan the exhibit and post it here when I find time.

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Bob, that was the crux of my piece: rarity is seldome the important factor.

Was AmeriStamp an AFDC show or general show. AFDC folks should know that various cachet makers are unique and their wares valuable or not based on many factors. A hand-painted FDC should qualify as something completely different, especially to a judge, from an artmaster cachet. And amassing a collection of limited-run hand-painted cachets should be considered a feat and a fete.

thanks for the kind words on the article. It's interesting because I stumbled on the cover, but knew it was something special immediately. that said, I think my sole bid speaks for itself on the demand side.

so, do we get to see the Berlin Airflift exhibit? I, for one, would love to see it. It's one of the most intersting chapters of early cold war interaction and shows the West, for once, to good effect.

David

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Dear David,
A very nice find, and a delightful article. Thanks for bringing it home to SOR.
Dan C.

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It was an APS Show. My local club, The West Essex Philatelic Society entered the single frame group exhibit. We had five exhibitors all in different catagories. For four of us it was our first time exhibiting. The other member has won Gold at National and International level. We came in 5th place out of eight groups.

I think the problem with my exhibit was that I tried to make it like an article. I started with the technical aspects (Different Cancels and locations) then tried to tell the story of the Berlin Airlift through cachets. With the material I have I could not have created a single frame of either one of those. I was not trying to show every cachet ever created and left out a number of great cachets because they did not add to the story or did not have anything special about them technically. I stated my mission on the Title Page and Synopsis Page but it seemed to me the judges did not take this into consideration. Their critique stated that one frame exhibits for FDC's are for early or rare FDC's and it should have been a multi-frame exhibit. My other problem is that I don't have a very good sense of layout design. This is one of the reasons I have no interest in designing my own stamp albums.

I'm not complaining. I was very happy just to receive some sort of medal. I just wanted to show how neat FDC's are as they seem to have a negative connotation with many collectors.

I was happy the way the exhibit turned out and have no interest in improving it or even exhibiting again. It's just not my thing.

I'll try to scan it and post it this weekend.

Bob

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05 Aug 2011
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A big problem with philatelic judging is that judges are a) human and b) often are well-heeled "old-school" snobs who believe that ligitimate exhibits consist only of mint sets of classic stamps and rare classic covers.

It is urban myth, but myth based on quite a bit of exhibiting history, that a collection of modern stamps cannot win gold. I've seen modern exhibits get gold medals, but it's rare; exhibits of rare mint stamps and classic, rare covers are almost certain to get gold, if not the Grand or Reserve Grand awards.

The most egregious example I've seen is a one-frame exhibit of sloppily assembled rare covers, many with the only known examples of dead post office CDS cancellations. It was visually ugly and what write-up there was provided virtually no information, but the exhibitor was "good old boy" and he got the
Grand Award for the show.

There is also the problem that, traditionally, one-frame exhibits were used to exhibit only philatleic material that was so rare (which is not to say expensive) that the exhibitor could only fill one frame, and the exhibit was considered to be as complete as it could be. One of our chief judges for Vanpex (I believe it was Tim Bartshe). I believe it was who told us in his keynote speech that he believes one-frame exhibits are the best way to encourage collectors to begin exhibiting. Tim wanted to toss out the old rules, and allow one-frame exhibits to serve as samplers of collections.

I think it's a great idea, and I've encouraged members of my stamp club, the sponsor of Vanpex, to jump into exhibiting by creating a one-frame exhibit. A few have come on board with that idea. One, a doctor, decided to do two frames about polio, and told me he has enough material for 32 frames.

At the end of the day, the goal of exhibiting should not be for medals, although they are nice to have, but for the education you receive about your own collections. I have exhibited five times now, with five different exhibits, ranging from one frame to five frames, and each one has provided me with what amounts to a college course about the subject of the exhibit.

A final thought: Believe it or not, philatelic judges are not gods. They do not live on some philatelic Olympus. They are human, and individual judges exihbit human traits, from pure cussedness to saintliness. Even more important, they do not and cannot know everything about all of philately. And sometimes they jump to conclusions. A friend of mine got only a silver medal for what in the opinion of most people was a gold medal exhibit if ever there was one; the reason for the silver was that the exhibit was missing a particular cover representative of something or other. The problem was that such covers simply do not exist, but the judge believed that they did exist.

One more example: Another friend has a wonderful exhibit about the Japanese Occupation of Malaya, or perhaps some other Southeast Asia country. He's only gotten a silver medal for it because it too is missing a cover. In this case, he could buy the only such cover in existence, assuming the owner wished to sell it, for $2,500 or thereabouts. My friend cannot afford that cover, so his exhibit, which is wonderfully educational and gorgeous to look at, is doomed to be a silver-medal winner.

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Bob, it's true that I did learn a lot more about both the technical aspects of the FDC and the story behind the Berlin Airlift.

I didn't collect that issue because I was previously interested in the Berlin Airlift, but because I collect FDC's that are issued on 6/26. This happened to be one of those issues. While I knew there were two locations where they had cereomonies (Berlin Station in Germany and Malmsteen AFB in Montana) I never noticed that there were two different Berlin cancels. I also have FDC's of this issue postmarked with a FDC cancel in Washington, DC. Turns out that there was another stamp set issued that day for the Folk Musicians in DC. When the cachet maker sent the covers for processing they put the wrong cancel on those covers. It actually took me a while to figure that one out even though I collect the Folk Musician FDC's too.

It was an interesting process. I totally agree with your assessment of the one frame exhibit. My goal was to showcase how interesting FDC collecting can be.

Bob

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Before I start scanning, do the rules on the exhibit page still apply, 75dpi and 150kb max for each image?

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Hi Bob,
If you mean what are the limits on what the discussion board will allow as far as image upload, the total size limit is 300kb, the dimensions are 950 X 1200.

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Tim,

I'm talking about scans for the Exhibit page. The instructions state

Summary

Here is what you need to do. All steps are explained in much greater detail below.


•Contact the webmaster at sor.webmaster@gmail.com to get an ID for your exhibit pages (see Filenames below)
•Scan your pages at an effective resolution of 75 dpi and save as JPEG (see Scanning Tips)
•Upload your files via FTP (preferred) or e-mail to exhibits@stamporama.com and notify the webmaster that you have done so. (see Uploading Files).
•That's it! Your pages will soon be on-line.

Scanning Tips for Members' Exhibits

There are some tricks you can use to get the best filesize/quality compromise. The goal is to generate pages that average 100kB or less, and no bigger than 150kB, while maintaining a clarity that allows text to be easily read.

These numbers sound like they were meant for the early 2000's when server space was at a permium and download speeds were very slow.

Thanks,
Bob

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Sorry Bob, I miss-understood. Just send me the images of the exhibit pages to me and I'll post them for you.

Regards ... Tim.

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20 Aug 2011
12:38:10am

re: Rarer than an Inverted Jenny

Bobstamp,

You don't a good case for someone to want to exhibit. Regardless, I want you to know that I will be entering a one-frame exhibit in Vanpex this year. Perhaps I just should ignore the critiques.

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Jan,

Honestly, it just wasn't for me. I know many people who love doing it. I also have no interest in creating my own albums. I've tried, and gave up very quickly. Many members here love creating their own albums. I'm glad I did it though and actually did better than I thought, even though the things I was criticized for were not what I was expecting.

Good luck with your exhibit. If you had fun creating it, that's all that matters.

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21 Aug 2011
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Bob Parkin (Parkinlot),

Jan's posting was aimed at me, based on my statements about exhibiting, judges, and judges. I was mainly trying to point out that the judging of exhibits is of little importance compared to the benefits the exhibitor gets from exhibiting.

Many exhibitors see the medal they get as almost the only goal of exhibiting. That's especially true of exhibitors whose primary goal is to get a gold medal, or, better yet, an exhibition's grand or reserve grand award, because such awards from prestigious exhibitions can greatly increase the cash value of an exhibit. I think that that attitude hurts philately, and I'm afraid that some judges perpetuate the problem.

I would certainly never ignore a judge's comments about my exhibits, but neither would I necessarily take them to heart. They constitute information, which may or may not be valuable to me. Ultimately, it's me who judges me.

Jan, I'll look forward to seeing your exhibit.

Bob Ingraham (Bobstamp)

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