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I found this small group in a collection of Yugoslavian and related area stamps on Minkus pages. This group had no corresponding picture on the page, just stamps affixed. I couldn't find either a listing of the overprint nor a picture of the stamps thusly overprinted. I had clues as to its year and its usage, but still came up empty. Are my eyes getting worse? or is this something else? Please let me know if you know, and i wouldn't mind knowing its value if you know what the things are.
David
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David these are from a 1945 souvenir sheet Yugoslavia offoces abroad 1K11 ( the 1K5 - 1K10 overprinted diagonally "1945" in London were not issued. In 1950 they were sold by Yugoslav Government without postal validity. Later they appeared with the additional overprint of the outline of a plane at upper left in carmine or black
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The statement that they were sold by the Yugoslav Government in 1950 comes from Witt. At best, it is exceedingly misleading. 99% of people who read that sentence will assume that 'Yugoslav Government' means 'Government in Yugoslavia' - but it almost certainly does not.
The original stamps to which both the 1945 and the aeroplane overprints (Witt fails to mention there was also a set with gold coloured planes) were added was produced in London in 1943 by the Yugoslav Government in Exile, led by the exiled King Petar II, and whose policy was to restore the Yugoslav monarchy.
In October 1944 the Partisans (who were republican) liberated Beograd. A few days later a United Yugoslav Government was formed between the partisans and the Government in Exile. Subasic the Prime Minister in Exile and the bulk of the exiles returned to Beograd, leaving behind a hardcore monarchist faction, consisting of the King and a few of his supporters who withdrew their support for Subasic. The Allies recognised the new Government. But the King's supporters still claimed to be the Government in Exile.
It is difficult to imagine that as he was packing to leave, or at any time the following year, Subasic thought to himself 'Oh, we've still got a lot of those stamps left in London. I'd better get them overprinted "1945" just in case we find a use for them!' And even if he had, the GiE would hardly have got it done and sent them over to him. So the stock almost certainly remained in London with the GiE.
In 1950 the 'Government in Yugoslavia' was the Federativna Narodna Republika led by Ribar and Tito. If these overprinted stamps were put on the market, in 1950 or at any other time, it cannot have been by the 'Government in Yugoslav' but by the King and the rump of the former Government in Exile, still claiming to be the 'Yugoslav Government'.
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I found this small group in a collection of Yugoslavian and related area stamps on Minkus pages. This group had no corresponding picture on the page, just stamps affixed. I couldn't find either a listing of the overprint nor a picture of the stamps thusly overprinted. I had clues as to its year and its usage, but still came up empty. Are my eyes getting worse? or is this something else? Please let me know if you know, and i wouldn't mind knowing its value if you know what the things are.
David
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re: Yugoslavia: unissued stamps with 1945 overprint
David these are from a 1945 souvenir sheet Yugoslavia offoces abroad 1K11 ( the 1K5 - 1K10 overprinted diagonally "1945" in London were not issued. In 1950 they were sold by Yugoslav Government without postal validity. Later they appeared with the additional overprint of the outline of a plane at upper left in carmine or black
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re: Yugoslavia: unissued stamps with 1945 overprint
The statement that they were sold by the Yugoslav Government in 1950 comes from Witt. At best, it is exceedingly misleading. 99% of people who read that sentence will assume that 'Yugoslav Government' means 'Government in Yugoslavia' - but it almost certainly does not.
The original stamps to which both the 1945 and the aeroplane overprints (Witt fails to mention there was also a set with gold coloured planes) were added was produced in London in 1943 by the Yugoslav Government in Exile, led by the exiled King Petar II, and whose policy was to restore the Yugoslav monarchy.
In October 1944 the Partisans (who were republican) liberated Beograd. A few days later a United Yugoslav Government was formed between the partisans and the Government in Exile. Subasic the Prime Minister in Exile and the bulk of the exiles returned to Beograd, leaving behind a hardcore monarchist faction, consisting of the King and a few of his supporters who withdrew their support for Subasic. The Allies recognised the new Government. But the King's supporters still claimed to be the Government in Exile.
It is difficult to imagine that as he was packing to leave, or at any time the following year, Subasic thought to himself 'Oh, we've still got a lot of those stamps left in London. I'd better get them overprinted "1945" just in case we find a use for them!' And even if he had, the GiE would hardly have got it done and sent them over to him. So the stock almost certainly remained in London with the GiE.
In 1950 the 'Government in Yugoslavia' was the Federativna Narodna Republika led by Ribar and Tito. If these overprinted stamps were put on the market, in 1950 or at any other time, it cannot have been by the 'Government in Yugoslav' but by the King and the rump of the former Government in Exile, still claiming to be the 'Yugoslav Government'.
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