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United States/Stamps : Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

 

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Sacmo52

13 Jan 2013
01:44:41pm
I have a sc#2121 booklet uncancelled on piece that shows a straight printed line that passes through the entire stamp edge to edge. This line is the same color as is the image ink "multi" as per Scott description of the color. The line as you see in the images passes through the whelk's lower end.
Would this be a plate flaw and thus an error? Has anyone else seen this before? Image Not Found

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13 Jan 2013
01:50:10pm
re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Would not be an error as it wouldn't be a substantial mistake in the printing process (like inverting paper and printing a bi-plane upside down, or skipping a print run and omitting a color). Would be more of a freak with a little, but not too much, of an added value.

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Sacmo52

15 Jan 2013
08:36:59am
re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Thanks Michael. Good to know.

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18 Jan 2013
11:31:18pm
re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Mike, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the possibility of it being a flaw. Let's see if there are other copies showing the same thing. The types of errors you mention are really major errors, and you do reference the EFO area for the minor errors. Most likely it is, as you suggest, in the EFO grouping, but let's see as more copies are uncovered.
Dan C.

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michael78651
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19 Jan 2013
03:39:25am
re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Dan, it is a flaw, because it doesn't belong on the stamp. But it isn't a flaw that would be categorized as an error in the philatelic sense.

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19 Jan 2013
10:22:30am
re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

I guess the difference we're kicking around comes down to whether or not it is something on the plate itself, or a function of the printing process. I'd guess it to be a printing function, but I'd like to see if there are other examples that surface before coming down on either side-unless to your eyes it is definitely a printing thing. I believe we can agree that it is unlikely to be a plate function, but hope springs eternal.
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19 Jan 2013
11:23:54am

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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

looks to be a press problem where the wiper stopped, i'm guessing

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19 Jan 2013
12:18:25pm

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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

I agree with amsd, it sure looks like a wiping error to me. A wiping error is where you wipe the plate after a press stop to clean off and dried ink. A straight line running the length of the stamp like the one you have is possible.
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Sacmo52

13 Jan 2013
01:44:41pm

I have a sc#2121 booklet uncancelled on piece that shows a straight printed line that passes through the entire stamp edge to edge. This line is the same color as is the image ink "multi" as per Scott description of the color. The line as you see in the images passes through the whelk's lower end.
Would this be a plate flaw and thus an error? Has anyone else seen this before? Image Not Found

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13 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Would not be an error as it wouldn't be a substantial mistake in the printing process (like inverting paper and printing a bi-plane upside down, or skipping a print run and omitting a color). Would be more of a freak with a little, but not too much, of an added value.

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Sacmo52

15 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Thanks Michael. Good to know.

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dani20

18 Jan 2013
11:31:18pm

re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Mike, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the possibility of it being a flaw. Let's see if there are other copies showing the same thing. The types of errors you mention are really major errors, and you do reference the EFO area for the minor errors. Most likely it is, as you suggest, in the EFO grouping, but let's see as more copies are uncovered.
Dan C.

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michael78651

19 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

Dan, it is a flaw, because it doesn't belong on the stamp. But it isn't a flaw that would be categorized as an error in the philatelic sense.

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19 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

I guess the difference we're kicking around comes down to whether or not it is something on the plate itself, or a function of the printing process. I'd guess it to be a printing function, but I'd like to see if there are other examples that surface before coming down on either side-unless to your eyes it is definitely a printing thing. I believe we can agree that it is unlikely to be a plate function, but hope springs eternal.
Dan C.

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19 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

looks to be a press problem where the wiper stopped, i'm guessing

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bulldog

19 Jan 2013
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re: Scott #2121 Whelk plate error?

I agree with amsd, it sure looks like a wiping error to me. A wiping error is where you wipe the plate after a press stop to clean off and dried ink. A straight line running the length of the stamp like the one you have is possible.
Terry

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