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United States/Covers & Postmarks : 1800's envelopes?

 

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davefor

28 Feb 2013
07:21:54pm
Hi here are 5 old envelopes I'd like some help with. Anyone know where there is an online reference for them? Anyone know a value? Thanks




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28 Feb 2013
11:00:12pm
re: 1800's envelopes?

Dave,
I Googled the first two and came up with these answers.

envelope one:
http://digital.tcl.sc.edu/cdm/ref/collection/civilwar/id/273

envelope two:
http://www.aladin0.wrlc.org/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-01000-00---off-0rcwe--00-1--0-10-0---0---0prompt-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-home---01-3-1-00-0-0-11-0-0utfZz-8-00&a=d&c=rcwe&cl=CL3.1.17&d=HASH01b7b217d039ab3e0d85ce6f

and surprise, surprise the last envelope is also about Jefferson Davis:
http://aladinrc.wrlc.org//handle/1961/1827

Good luck with the others,

Mike

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28 Feb 2013
11:28:38pm
re: 1800's envelopes?

Mike,

That's absolutely fantastic. These would be a great topic to delve into for someone interested in Confederate history and philately.

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28 Feb 2013
11:39:07pm
re: 1800's envelopes?

Kelly,
You are absolutely right! I am just amazed at all of the interesting stamps and stories about them, that appear right here in our little world. It's sort of like the Antiques Road Show, only better.

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01 Mar 2013
12:17:50am
re: 1800's envelopes?


Mike thanks for your help. I am not able to connect to those links for some reason. Let me add another one I have.



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davefor

01 Mar 2013
02:13:20am
re: 1800's envelopes?

Mike I was able to find 2 others on that site, thanks! How do I find out a value?

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01 Mar 2013
07:49:31am
re: 1800's envelopes?

Dave,
These are all very interesting covers, but not being a cover collector I don't know just where to look to find a value for any of them. You might try eBay for a start.

Just cut and paste the links as they are.

Here's the link for this last one. I just tested this and it worked instantly.

http://www.aladin0.wrlc.org/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-01000-00---off-0rcwe--00-1--0-10-0---0---0prompt-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-home---01-3-1-00-0-0-11-0-0utfZz-8-00&a=d&c=rcwe&cl=CL3.1.22&d=HASH4e4dd2f480f00d74c9c53d

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01 Mar 2013
07:54:00am
re: 1800's envelopes?

More good news Dave.

I just looked on eBay for "Scott's Extinguisher" and found almost the exact same cover you are showing us.

Good luck with the others,

Mike

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davefor

01 Mar 2013
10:54:26am
re: 1800's envelopes?

Thanks Mike I will look it up. In the current Regency-Superior auction lot #2358 is the same as the A L His Marks envelope as a used cover. Its est. is $1500, it says that only 2 are recorded. Not sure if they mean as a used cover, color of envelope or what. The only diff is, is that mine is on a blue envelope and not used. Any opinions? Thanks all! Dave

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03 Mar 2013
12:46:47pm
re: 1800's envelopes?

Hi Dave,

These are Civil War patriotic covers, issued during the 1860s to encourage the Union war effort. The covers you have her depict General Winfield Scott, Jefferson Davis, and Colonel Elmer Ellsworth (the first union officer killed during the war). Postally used examples are much harder to find, as many Americans saved the envelopes as souvenirs.

I collect these types of covers, and I would be interested in trading for them or purchasing them from you.

Frank
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davefor

03 Mar 2013
02:42:45pm
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Hi Frank, thanks for the note. I can see how a used example would be harder to find for sure.

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03 Mar 2013
02:56:54pm
re: 1800's envelopes?

I read a book some time ago about a trial of Ku Klux Klan members started in Charleston S.C. in 1871.

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28 Feb 2013
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Hi here are 5 old envelopes I'd like some help with. Anyone know where there is an online reference for them? Anyone know a value? Thanks




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28 Feb 2013
11:00:12pm

re: 1800's envelopes?

Dave,
I Googled the first two and came up with these answers.

envelope one:
http://digital.tcl.sc.edu/cdm/ref/collection/civilwar/id/273

envelope two:
http://www.aladin0.wrlc.org/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-01000-00---off-0rcwe--00-1--0-10-0---0---0prompt-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-home---01-3-1-00-0-0-11-0-0utfZz-8-00&a=d&c=rcwe&cl=CL3.1.17&d=HASH01b7b217d039ab3e0d85ce6f

and surprise, surprise the last envelope is also about Jefferson Davis:
http://aladinrc.wrlc.org//handle/1961/1827

Good luck with the others,

Mike

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28 Feb 2013
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re: 1800's envelopes?

Mike,

That's absolutely fantastic. These would be a great topic to delve into for someone interested in Confederate history and philately.

Kelly

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28 Feb 2013
11:39:07pm

re: 1800's envelopes?

Kelly,
You are absolutely right! I am just amazed at all of the interesting stamps and stories about them, that appear right here in our little world. It's sort of like the Antiques Road Show, only better.

Mike

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davefor

01 Mar 2013
12:17:50am

re: 1800's envelopes?


Mike thanks for your help. I am not able to connect to those links for some reason. Let me add another one I have.



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davefor

01 Mar 2013
02:13:20am

re: 1800's envelopes?

Mike I was able to find 2 others on that site, thanks! How do I find out a value?

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01 Mar 2013
07:49:31am

re: 1800's envelopes?

Dave,
These are all very interesting covers, but not being a cover collector I don't know just where to look to find a value for any of them. You might try eBay for a start.

Just cut and paste the links as they are.

Here's the link for this last one. I just tested this and it worked instantly.

http://www.aladin0.wrlc.org/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-01000-00---off-0rcwe--00-1--0-10-0---0---0prompt-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-home---01-3-1-00-0-0-11-0-0utfZz-8-00&a=d&c=rcwe&cl=CL3.1.22&d=HASH4e4dd2f480f00d74c9c53d

Mike


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01 Mar 2013
07:54:00am

re: 1800's envelopes?

More good news Dave.

I just looked on eBay for "Scott's Extinguisher" and found almost the exact same cover you are showing us.

Good luck with the others,

Mike

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davefor

01 Mar 2013
10:54:26am

re: 1800's envelopes?

Thanks Mike I will look it up. In the current Regency-Superior auction lot #2358 is the same as the A L His Marks envelope as a used cover. Its est. is $1500, it says that only 2 are recorded. Not sure if they mean as a used cover, color of envelope or what. The only diff is, is that mine is on a blue envelope and not used. Any opinions? Thanks all! Dave

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03 Mar 2013
12:46:47pm

re: 1800's envelopes?

Hi Dave,

These are Civil War patriotic covers, issued during the 1860s to encourage the Union war effort. The covers you have her depict General Winfield Scott, Jefferson Davis, and Colonel Elmer Ellsworth (the first union officer killed during the war). Postally used examples are much harder to find, as many Americans saved the envelopes as souvenirs.

I collect these types of covers, and I would be interested in trading for them or purchasing them from you.

Frank
frank.garmon.05@cnu.edu

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davefor

03 Mar 2013
02:42:45pm

re: 1800's envelopes?


Hi Frank, thanks for the note. I can see how a used example would be harder to find for sure.

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03 Mar 2013
02:56:54pm

re: 1800's envelopes?

I read a book some time ago about a trial of Ku Klux Klan members started in Charleston S.C. in 1871.

Klu Klux Klan trial

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