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Africa/All : Question on Obock / Somalicoast

 

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31 Mar 2013
08:43:10pm
I have this stamp, Somalicoast Scott #30, which is an overprint on Obock #54:

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It appears, however, that the stamp is printed on thick paper, which differs significantly from the regular paper used for that issue.

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I would almost suspect a cut-square from a postal card. Faint quadrille lines are visible however. Question: is there a note in the Scott Classic catalog about a thick paper variety for this stamp or the basic Obock stamp? Someone can check Yvert / Ceres / Maury? I really should get the Maury for my French Colonies in Africa ...

In the mean time, I hope perhaps someone can help out? I don't think it is a fake, but it certainly is not the regular Scott #30 ...
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31 Mar 2013
09:50:25pm
re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

Scott Classic from 2010 does not have a note under Somali Coast about paper varieties. Under Obock it just mentions the quadrille lines printed on paper.

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01 Apr 2013
12:19:18am
re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

My 2001 Ceres French Colonies Volume 1 does not mention any other paper varieties, only the quadrille paper.

Hopefully someone with the right Higgins & Gage volume can chime in and let you know if this stamp exists as postal stationery.

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01 Apr 2013
08:58:09am
re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

Thank you both. Why can't this be easy? Just to be sure: the 5 centimes on 30 centimes stamp also has the printed chalk quadrille lines. Due to the thicker paper these just do not show well in the scan.

A cut from postal stationary could be a possibility. The reason why I don't think a stationary cut-out is the most likely explanation, is because the 30 centimes basic stamp would be an odd denomination for French postal stationary of the time. But you never know. Michel lists thick paper varieties for some stamps of the later Somali Coast "Views of Djibouti" set (Scott #6 ff), but not for the earlier set from Obock.

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01 Apr 2013
09:01:16am
re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

I checked my Higgins & Gage and did not see this mentioned. I could not find any postal stationary for Somali Coast/Djibouti. I looked at Obock to see if there was even a postal stationary item with this design to overprint. There is an envelope (not postal card) with this design but the highest denomination is 25c. This one is 30c.

I don't believe this came from postal stationary.

Bob

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Rhinelander

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31 Mar 2013
08:43:10pm

I have this stamp, Somalicoast Scott #30, which is an overprint on Obock #54:

Image Not Found


It appears, however, that the stamp is printed on thick paper, which differs significantly from the regular paper used for that issue.

Image Not Found

I would almost suspect a cut-square from a postal card. Faint quadrille lines are visible however. Question: is there a note in the Scott Classic catalog about a thick paper variety for this stamp or the basic Obock stamp? Someone can check Yvert / Ceres / Maury? I really should get the Maury for my French Colonies in Africa ...

In the mean time, I hope perhaps someone can help out? I don't think it is a fake, but it certainly is not the regular Scott #30 ...

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31 Mar 2013
09:50:25pm

re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

Scott Classic from 2010 does not have a note under Somali Coast about paper varieties. Under Obock it just mentions the quadrille lines printed on paper.

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01 Apr 2013
12:19:18am

re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

My 2001 Ceres French Colonies Volume 1 does not mention any other paper varieties, only the quadrille paper.

Hopefully someone with the right Higgins & Gage volume can chime in and let you know if this stamp exists as postal stationery.

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Rhinelander

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01 Apr 2013
08:58:09am

re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

Thank you both. Why can't this be easy? Just to be sure: the 5 centimes on 30 centimes stamp also has the printed chalk quadrille lines. Due to the thicker paper these just do not show well in the scan.

A cut from postal stationary could be a possibility. The reason why I don't think a stationary cut-out is the most likely explanation, is because the 30 centimes basic stamp would be an odd denomination for French postal stationary of the time. But you never know. Michel lists thick paper varieties for some stamps of the later Somali Coast "Views of Djibouti" set (Scott #6 ff), but not for the earlier set from Obock.

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President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org
01 Apr 2013
09:01:16am

re: Question on Obock / Somalicoast

I checked my Higgins & Gage and did not see this mentioned. I could not find any postal stationary for Somali Coast/Djibouti. I looked at Obock to see if there was even a postal stationary item with this design to overprint. There is an envelope (not postal card) with this design but the highest denomination is 25c. This one is 30c.

I don't believe this came from postal stationary.

Bob

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