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Pictured is a small pre-stamped envelope for Gwalior state (over print in RED)I also have it in black and a post card. looking for any information and value.
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Ross
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05:05:31pm
Wow !!!!
If they were mine, I'd have to find someone who can translate the Hindi address and possibly whatever is on the obverse.
Charlie
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I have these and about 20 more similar including several with postage due!!!
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One of these looks very similar to a great item I just received. 
Ross, I don't see these in your store.
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Peter,
Looking for a little more info so they can be described correctly.
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Both are Queen Victoria era overprinted postal stationary items from Indian Conventional State of Gwalior. I do not have a catalog for reference but I will try to discern the info from the images and data available with me from other sources. The second item (postcard has the Type 2 overprint applied by the Government of India Central Printing Press, Calcutta. It has address in Marathi and Persian languages,
The first one (cover) has a red overprint and Galior State symbol printed on it and is addressed in Hindi to the Queen Mother (Rajmata Rajeshri Visnudinkar) in Basoda which was a part of Gwalior State during the British Period and it bordered the State of Bhopal (my birthplace).
Check the History of Gwalior State at Wikipedia and compare the dates with names on this cover you may be surprised by how much history this cover tells by itself. If possible please show the scans of other sides of these two items and I will try and translate.
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Just remembered, if you can post the images at Stampboard (Glenn Stephens stamp chat board)you will got more concrete information as there are many India Postal History buffs out there. Someone will surely identify these and probably give you catalog details and prices too.
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Saleem,
Thank you for the info. the scans as per your request, the cover has no markings on the reverse:
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No luck! Can't decipher the Marathi language script of QV era - the postcard scan is upside down and that is all I can confirm 
By the way the rulers of Gwalior state were Marathas and Marathi was spoken there during the period this card is from. Hindi became official language when the states were merged in 1948 after independence.
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Didn't you know its a rare inverted post card!!!!
OK I flipped it. I also looked through Wikipedia but found nothing YET!!!
As for Stampboards I had a disagreement with his Holiness 3 years ago -if you dont see things his way and bow in his presence you get booted..
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03 May 2013
11:41:24am
Hello and Thank you in advance,
Pictured is a small pre-stamped envelope for Gwalior state (over print in RED)I also have it in black and a post card. looking for any information and value.
Thanks again,
Ross
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03 May 2013
05:05:31pm
re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Wow !!!!
If they were mine, I'd have to find someone who can translate the Hindi address and possibly whatever is on the obverse.
Charlie
Lecanto, Florida
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03 May 2013
05:50:37pm
re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
I have these and about 20 more similar including several with postage due!!!
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06:37:14pm
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One of these looks very similar to a great item I just received.
Ross, I don't see these in your store.
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To error is human -to really fowl things up takes a computer
03 May 2013
07:36:32pm
re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Peter,
Looking for a little more info so they can be described correctly.
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re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Both are Queen Victoria era overprinted postal stationary items from Indian Conventional State of Gwalior. I do not have a catalog for reference but I will try to discern the info from the images and data available with me from other sources. The second item (postcard has the Type 2 overprint applied by the Government of India Central Printing Press, Calcutta. It has address in Marathi and Persian languages,
The first one (cover) has a red overprint and Galior State symbol printed on it and is addressed in Hindi to the Queen Mother (Rajmata Rajeshri Visnudinkar) in Basoda which was a part of Gwalior State during the British Period and it bordered the State of Bhopal (my birthplace).
Check the History of Gwalior State at Wikipedia and compare the dates with names on this cover you may be surprised by how much history this cover tells by itself. If possible please show the scans of other sides of these two items and I will try and translate.
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re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Just remembered, if you can post the images at Stampboard (Glenn Stephens stamp chat board)you will got more concrete information as there are many India Postal History buffs out there. Someone will surely identify these and probably give you catalog details and prices too.
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03 May 2013
10:21:25pm
re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Saleem,
Thank you for the info. the scans as per your request, the cover has no markings on the reverse:
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03 May 2013
10:47:36pm
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re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
No luck! Can't decipher the Marathi language script of QV era - the postcard scan is upside down and that is all I can confirm
By the way the rulers of Gwalior state were Marathas and Marathi was spoken there during the period this card is from. Hindi became official language when the states were merged in 1948 after independence.
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04 May 2013
08:43:41pm
re: India pre-Stamped envelope from Gwalior State identification and value
Didn't you know its a rare inverted post card!!!!
OK I flipped it. I also looked through Wikipedia but found nothing YET!!!
As for Stampboards I had a disagreement with his Holiness 3 years ago -if you dont see things his way and bow in his presence you get booted..
Thanks again
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