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Latin America/All : Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

 

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05 Aug 2013
11:37:45pm
Hi, just showing off one of my favorite stamps from Panama.

Keep in mind, this is a 10-stamp set, but I decided two were enough.

To see the entire set you can visit http://www.stampsoftheworld.co.uk/wiki/Panama_1924_Coat_of_Arms

This is a stamp wiki created by a friend of mine.

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06 Aug 2013
10:28:26pm
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

Great centering on those. Very nice.

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17 Sep 2015
08:25:35pm
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

Those are nice Smauggie. I'm interested in world wide stamps printed by the ABNCo. Has anyone ever seen foreign stamps with attached selvedge showing the big, fancy ABNCo imprint?

-Ernie

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17 Sep 2015
10:49:49pm
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

If I understand the current fashion correctly, that rich, bountiful, gorgeous stamp is actually busy, crowded, and over-stuffed ... my parents ruined me with that walk thru Versailles when I was a wee lad, because I adore it, along with so many of the engraved stamps of South & Central America.

A masterpiece like this deepens my resolve to just collect the stamps I actually like, and leave completionism to the completionists.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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17 Sep 2015
11:22:44pm
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

The early stamps of Panama are some of the most beautiful in the world. Besides ABN, Waterlow & Sons and Perkins Bacon contributed some very nicely executed designs.
It'a a nice country for completionists!
Most of the stamps of Panama can be seen here:
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/panama/panama.html


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18 Sep 2015
08:11:01am
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

These Panamanian issues had "American Banknote Co." printed right on the face. I also saw some Brazil stamps like that also. None of the stamps they did for the U.S. ever had such "branding". How was this printing company able to do this? Did they feel that they had some sort of "leverage" over foreign governments? Did these countries have no other place to go? Thanks in advance,

-Ernie

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15 Mar 2017
05:14:46pm
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

I was looking for a cover I might have posted to Stamporama when I found your unanswered question Ernie. It is a good question and I think it deserves an attempt at an answer. I believe it was France in 1877 that first started to give credit to the stamp printer as part of the stamp. Before then, I cannot find stamps that have any such annotation.

I think once that started happening all printers were clamoring to have their name appear on the stamps they were producing.

Panama, as a country, had been allowed to exist due to the hard work of Panamanians, but also the intervention of the United States in recognizing Panama as an independent state. Of course this was also part the process by which the US managed to be able to build a Canal in Panama.

The US had tried for years to get the rights from Colombia to build a canal in Panama, then part of Colombia. The Colombians demurred and showed no real interest in building a Canal in cooperation with the United States.

One of their fears is that this would give undue power to the province and would-be breakaway nation of Panama (dare I mention the extremes Colombia was willing to go to trying get Panama and the Canal back once the hat was out of the bag).

I say all this to think that Panama might have a sense of pride to boast stamps printed by one of the top printers in the US. Also keep in mind that there was a large presence of French people (some with the last name of Suez) which had been in Panama for some time and this did not fail to leave a French impression on Panama. Panamanians may have also been happy to give credit to it's stamp printers as the French had done for years.

Today the stamps of many countries may have lots of annotations, such as printer, engraver and/or year of issue (though perhaps less boldly so) so the tradition continues.

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17 Mar 2017
10:51:19am
re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

Nice stamps indeed. I am currently reading The Path Between the Seas by David McCullough which wonderfully tells the story of the building of the Panama Canal, including all the intrigue and skullduggery then went along with it.

The backup plan, if Panama did not pan out, was to be Nicaragua. In fact there was a vote in the senate (1902?) to decide between the two countries, and Panama narrowly won out.

The accounts of Theodore Roosevelt growing irritated with Colombian politicians is choice.
As is the story of Ferdinand de Lesseps who spearheaded the earlier French attempt in Panama -- same fellow who spearheaded the Suez Canal, successfully.

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17 Mar 2017
10:17:04pm
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The stamp that may have had some small sway in the decision was the one-centavo Nicaraguan stamp depicting the volcano Momotombo in full eruption. One of the key players in making Panama the winning location was a Frenchman by the name Bunau-Varilla. It was he who rounded up 90 of the stamps from stamp dealers in Washington to provide one each to senators.

While there were and are volcanoes in Nicaragua, the proposed path would, by most accounts, have been safe enough.

The mosquito problem (Malaria and Yellow Fever) was controlled much more effectively once the US effort began in Panama. Especially once it was determined mosquitoes were the culprit. And to give the French credit, they had done a lot of work in Panama that could be built upon.

Stamp in question is Scott #121.

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05 Aug 2013
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Hi, just showing off one of my favorite stamps from Panama.

Keep in mind, this is a 10-stamp set, but I decided two were enough.

To see the entire set you can visit http://www.stampsoftheworld.co.uk/wiki/Panama_1924_Coat_of_Arms

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06 Aug 2013
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17 Sep 2015
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re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

Those are nice Smauggie. I'm interested in world wide stamps printed by the ABNCo. Has anyone ever seen foreign stamps with attached selvedge showing the big, fancy ABNCo imprint?

-Ernie

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17 Sep 2015
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re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

If I understand the current fashion correctly, that rich, bountiful, gorgeous stamp is actually busy, crowded, and over-stuffed ... my parents ruined me with that walk thru Versailles when I was a wee lad, because I adore it, along with so many of the engraved stamps of South & Central America.

A masterpiece like this deepens my resolve to just collect the stamps I actually like, and leave completionism to the completionists.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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17 Sep 2015
11:22:44pm

re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

The early stamps of Panama are some of the most beautiful in the world. Besides ABN, Waterlow & Sons and Perkins Bacon contributed some very nicely executed designs.
It'a a nice country for completionists!
Most of the stamps of Panama can be seen here:
http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/panama/panama.html


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18 Sep 2015
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re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

These Panamanian issues had "American Banknote Co." printed right on the face. I also saw some Brazil stamps like that also. None of the stamps they did for the U.S. ever had such "branding". How was this printing company able to do this? Did they feel that they had some sort of "leverage" over foreign governments? Did these countries have no other place to go? Thanks in advance,

-Ernie

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15 Mar 2017
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re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

I was looking for a cover I might have posted to Stamporama when I found your unanswered question Ernie. It is a good question and I think it deserves an attempt at an answer. I believe it was France in 1877 that first started to give credit to the stamp printer as part of the stamp. Before then, I cannot find stamps that have any such annotation.

I think once that started happening all printers were clamoring to have their name appear on the stamps they were producing.

Panama, as a country, had been allowed to exist due to the hard work of Panamanians, but also the intervention of the United States in recognizing Panama as an independent state. Of course this was also part the process by which the US managed to be able to build a Canal in Panama.

The US had tried for years to get the rights from Colombia to build a canal in Panama, then part of Colombia. The Colombians demurred and showed no real interest in building a Canal in cooperation with the United States.

One of their fears is that this would give undue power to the province and would-be breakaway nation of Panama (dare I mention the extremes Colombia was willing to go to trying get Panama and the Canal back once the hat was out of the bag).

I say all this to think that Panama might have a sense of pride to boast stamps printed by one of the top printers in the US. Also keep in mind that there was a large presence of French people (some with the last name of Suez) which had been in Panama for some time and this did not fail to leave a French impression on Panama. Panamanians may have also been happy to give credit to it's stamp printers as the French had done for years.

Today the stamps of many countries may have lots of annotations, such as printer, engraver and/or year of issue (though perhaps less boldly so) so the tradition continues.

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17 Mar 2017
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re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

Nice stamps indeed. I am currently reading The Path Between the Seas by David McCullough which wonderfully tells the story of the building of the Panama Canal, including all the intrigue and skullduggery then went along with it.

The backup plan, if Panama did not pan out, was to be Nicaragua. In fact there was a vote in the senate (1902?) to decide between the two countries, and Panama narrowly won out.

The accounts of Theodore Roosevelt growing irritated with Colombian politicians is choice.
As is the story of Ferdinand de Lesseps who spearheaded the earlier French attempt in Panama -- same fellow who spearheaded the Suez Canal, successfully.

E

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17 Mar 2017
10:17:04pm

re: Panama - American Banknote Perfection - 1924 Coat of Arms Issue

The stamp that may have had some small sway in the decision was the one-centavo Nicaraguan stamp depicting the volcano Momotombo in full eruption. One of the key players in making Panama the winning location was a Frenchman by the name Bunau-Varilla. It was he who rounded up 90 of the stamps from stamp dealers in Washington to provide one each to senators.

While there were and are volcanoes in Nicaragua, the proposed path would, by most accounts, have been safe enough.

The mosquito problem (Malaria and Yellow Fever) was controlled much more effectively once the US effort began in Panama. Especially once it was determined mosquitoes were the culprit. And to give the French credit, they had done a lot of work in Panama that could be built upon.

Stamp in question is Scott #121.

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