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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

 

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PeterG
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14 Sep 2013
04:25:20am
I was begifted with a handful of covers and postcards from various UN missions and similar like this:



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from Italfor Sudan Task Force, and this:

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from the Italian medical unit at the multination brigate in Kosovo.

I wonder if they are interesting like similar from WW1 and WW2, or if it´s merely considered philatelic items?



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14 Sep 2013
07:21:25am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

I am probably demonstrating my ignorance, but I have to know what "fis i en hornlygte?" means and the root language it represents.

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jillcrow

14 Sep 2013
08:01:54am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

You need to brush up your Danish Laughing

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PeterG
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14 Sep 2013
08:05:40am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Eeeeh, I think that perhabs I may have to admit that I probably cannot translate that very good I Don't Want To See
But the language was Danish Cool
And I think I meant something like "or is it nothing of interest?" Laughing

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Mike

14 Sep 2013
09:19:28am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

According to my friends at Google it litterly came out as "fart in a horn lantern" in Danish, but the Swedes have tempered it a bit by saying "little candle in a horn latern". For an explanation of "horn latern" check out the site below. Very interesting.

http://hearingshofar.blogspot.com/2011/07/lantern-comes-from-lamp-horn.html

Mike

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bamra1

14 Sep 2013
09:27:48am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Triple-interesting in my opinion! Of interest to those who collect UN, those who collect the native country of the unit involved and those who collect the country where the unit operates.

As a collector of Yugoslavia/Serbia/Kosovo I pick up the KFOR covers from time to time. The interest lies in those which, like yours were genuinely used for non-philatelic postage by servicemen to friends/families e.g.
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rather than blank,philatelically-inspired stationery which can also be found:
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14 Sep 2013
10:31:45am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Glad I asked. Now I will not go to my grave thing Peter was comparing himself to a "rutting goat."Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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PeterG
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14 Sep 2013
12:26:57pm
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Hehe, your friends at google got it right Rolling On The Floor Laughing
Very nice covers from Kosovo bamra Thumbs Up, I only have one KFOR cover Nerd

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bamra1

14 Sep 2013
04:52:20pm
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

First I think I need to apologise for saying that UN collectors would be interested in the KFOR cover.Actually the KFOR troops were representing NATO not the UN. Sorry if I have confused anyone.

So far we have seen here KFOR covers for Italy, France, Germany and now, thanks to Peter, Turkey.
It might be interesting to see these in the context of the numbers of KFOR troops supplied by different nations:
Germany 741
USA 669
Italy 500
Austria 409
Turkey 367
Slovenia 323
France 316

So there should be a reasonable chance of finding US, Austrian and Slovenian covers. But there were 31 nations involved, and the numbers get very small. What price a cover sent by one of the three Norwegians involved? Or even the one sole Lithuanian?

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PeterG
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15 Sep 2013
11:52:58am
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Such covers would almost be priceless Surprise Big Grin
My brother in law´s kid brother was there as a part of the Danish contingent, but sadly I couldn´t talk him into sending me any mail at all Crying
Same sad story when he was in the Central African Republic later Crying
But luckily I got a Polish KFOR cover too Big Grin Image Not Found



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15 Sep 2013
01:39:34pm

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Peter and Derek,
Thanks for sharing your covers. Very interesting. I have a very good friend who was in Kosovo as part of the US contingent, so your covers were very meaningful for me.

Regards ... Tim

Ps. Peter I love your avatar.

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15 Sep 2013
02:39:52pm

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re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

these are of great interest and, as Peter notes, extremely rare for several reasons: there are few troops, sometimes for short duration; AND email has supplanted mail, even when the latter is free. I tried, unsuccessfully, to get friends to mail stuff..... no luck.

I suspect its rarity factor won't be realized or appreciated until this generation of soldiers dies and their estates become part of philately's flotsam.

Letters from VietNam remain relatively elusive, and i think UN and NATO covers will be even more so.

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bamra1

15 Sep 2013
05:00:00pm
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

"My brother in law´s kid brother was there as a part of the Danish contingent, but sadly I couldn´t talk him into sending me any mail at all"

That's a shame. Number of Danes was 26!!!

Poles = 241

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16 Sep 2013
01:46:34pm
re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Øv Crying
That makes it an even bigger shame Sad

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PeterG

14 Sep 2013
04:25:20am

I was begifted with a handful of covers and postcards from various UN missions and similar like this:



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from Italfor Sudan Task Force, and this:

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from the Italian medical unit at the multination brigate in Kosovo.

I wonder if they are interesting like similar from WW1 and WW2, or if it´s merely considered philatelic items?



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14 Sep 2013
07:21:25am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

I am probably demonstrating my ignorance, but I have to know what "fis i en hornlygte?" means and the root language it represents.

Bobby

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jillcrow

14 Sep 2013
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re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

You need to brush up your Danish Laughing

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14 Sep 2013
08:05:40am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Eeeeh, I think that perhabs I may have to admit that I probably cannot translate that very good I Don't Want To See
But the language was Danish Cool
And I think I meant something like "or is it nothing of interest?" Laughing

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Mike
14 Sep 2013
09:19:28am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

According to my friends at Google it litterly came out as "fart in a horn lantern" in Danish, but the Swedes have tempered it a bit by saying "little candle in a horn latern". For an explanation of "horn latern" check out the site below. Very interesting.

http://hearingshofar.blogspot.com/2011/07/lantern-comes-from-lamp-horn.html

Mike

(Modified by Moderator on 2013-09-14 10:29:01)

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bamra1

14 Sep 2013
09:27:48am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Triple-interesting in my opinion! Of interest to those who collect UN, those who collect the native country of the unit involved and those who collect the country where the unit operates.

As a collector of Yugoslavia/Serbia/Kosovo I pick up the KFOR covers from time to time. The interest lies in those which, like yours were genuinely used for non-philatelic postage by servicemen to friends/families e.g.
Image Not Found
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rather than blank,philatelically-inspired stationery which can also be found:
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14 Sep 2013
10:31:45am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Glad I asked. Now I will not go to my grave thing Peter was comparing himself to a "rutting goat."Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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PeterG

14 Sep 2013
12:26:57pm

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Hehe, your friends at google got it right Rolling On The Floor Laughing
Very nice covers from Kosovo bamra Thumbs Up, I only have one KFOR cover Nerd

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bamra1

14 Sep 2013
04:52:20pm

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

First I think I need to apologise for saying that UN collectors would be interested in the KFOR cover.Actually the KFOR troops were representing NATO not the UN. Sorry if I have confused anyone.

So far we have seen here KFOR covers for Italy, France, Germany and now, thanks to Peter, Turkey.
It might be interesting to see these in the context of the numbers of KFOR troops supplied by different nations:
Germany 741
USA 669
Italy 500
Austria 409
Turkey 367
Slovenia 323
France 316

So there should be a reasonable chance of finding US, Austrian and Slovenian covers. But there were 31 nations involved, and the numbers get very small. What price a cover sent by one of the three Norwegians involved? Or even the one sole Lithuanian?

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15 Sep 2013
11:52:58am

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Such covers would almost be priceless Surprise Big Grin
My brother in law´s kid brother was there as a part of the Danish contingent, but sadly I couldn´t talk him into sending me any mail at all Crying
Same sad story when he was in the Central African Republic later Crying
But luckily I got a Polish KFOR cover too Big Grin Image Not Found



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Tim
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15 Sep 2013
01:39:34pm

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re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

Peter and Derek,
Thanks for sharing your covers. Very interesting. I have a very good friend who was in Kosovo as part of the US contingent, so your covers were very meaningful for me.

Regards ... Tim

Ps. Peter I love your avatar.

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15 Sep 2013
02:39:52pm

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re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

these are of great interest and, as Peter notes, extremely rare for several reasons: there are few troops, sometimes for short duration; AND email has supplanted mail, even when the latter is free. I tried, unsuccessfully, to get friends to mail stuff..... no luck.

I suspect its rarity factor won't be realized or appreciated until this generation of soldiers dies and their estates become part of philately's flotsam.

Letters from VietNam remain relatively elusive, and i think UN and NATO covers will be even more so.

David

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bamra1

15 Sep 2013
05:00:00pm

re: Modern Military Mail - of any interest or fis i en hornlygte?

"My brother in law´s kid brother was there as a part of the Danish contingent, but sadly I couldn´t talk him into sending me any mail at all"

That's a shame. Number of Danes was 26!!!

Poles = 241

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16 Sep 2013
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Øv Crying
That makes it an even bigger shame Sad

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