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Dave,
Have you tried:
http://www.1847usa.com/
Best,
Dan C.
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Hi Dan, thanks, yes I have tried that site but nothing in detail there either.
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Perhaps raising the question on this site may be of some value:
us_specialized@yahoogroups.com
Good luck,
Dan C.
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Dave,
Do you have access to Paul Schmid's book, The Expert's Book a Practical Guide to the Authentication of United States Stamps, Washington/Franklin Issues 1908-1923. If you don't, let me know and I will send you via email the pages regarding blue paper.
Mel
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I don't collect those, but 357-366 have a CV of over $65,000. Only 357 and 358 are under $1000 each. (One other bluish paper stamp - 369 - has a CV of $225 or so).
If you want to personally ID those stamps, you may want to focus on 357, 358, and 369. Get examples with a cert or send off examples you think are legit for a cert. Once you are convinced that you can personally identify the genuine article, you may want to venture out into 359-366 territory.
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Dave
Another site to visit is: www.jamesdire.net/W-F. A nice site for Washington/Franklin ID. Scroll down the home page and he shows a picture of bluish paper next to regular paper.
Mel
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Nicve site, Mel. Thanks for posting the link.
One thing to point out is that the "bluish" paper actually appear more grayish than blue. The image is real good at showing that.
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When I had a large lot, I would check for the Bluish Papers by looking at the reverse side of all the stamps at one time, but with a large orange colored poster board that the stamps were viewed on. In all my years I've only found three bluish paper stamps, but an old collector taught me this trick. The bluish paper stamps will pop out at you with an orange background.
Another thing to look for is black spots on reverse.
The watermark will also be extremely easy to see on a bluish paper. On other than bluish paper stamps sometimes you can find copies where were the first pass on the dandy roll, but the bluish paper watermarks are always must easier to see.
Hold the bluish paper stamps at a sharp angle, which makes it very easy to identify these difficult stamps.
In all my years of collecting, have only found three of these.
One trick I use, is to carry with me a small orange square, to check stamps at shows or on bid boards.
DAVID THOMPSON
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Excellent tip!
In a similar vein, I bought a large piece of black matte cardboard to cover the top of my stamp work area. It helps me catch short perfs and other flaws much more easily.
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One thing to remember is that the "bluish" paper is actually more grayish than blue.
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Hi All
I was thinking I should show what I mean, show the results of using orange background when looking for the bluish paper stamps.
So here goes"
Now the bluish paper stamp here is mint, but you'll see the same result with used stamps!
Can you decide which stamp is on bluish paper? I'm sure everyone can determine which is on bluish paper.
DAVID THOMPSON
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I have tried to find a good source of information on ID'ing these stamps but can't really find one with pics and an explanation. Most are just basic but I want something more indepth, any ideas please? Thanks Dave
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Dave,
Have you tried:
http://www.1847usa.com/
Best,
Dan C.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Hi Dan, thanks, yes I have tried that site but nothing in detail there either.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Perhaps raising the question on this site may be of some value:
us_specialized@yahoogroups.com
Good luck,
Dan C.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Dave,
Do you have access to Paul Schmid's book, The Expert's Book a Practical Guide to the Authentication of United States Stamps, Washington/Franklin Issues 1908-1923. If you don't, let me know and I will send you via email the pages regarding blue paper.
Mel
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
I don't collect those, but 357-366 have a CV of over $65,000. Only 357 and 358 are under $1000 each. (One other bluish paper stamp - 369 - has a CV of $225 or so).
If you want to personally ID those stamps, you may want to focus on 357, 358, and 369. Get examples with a cert or send off examples you think are legit for a cert. Once you are convinced that you can personally identify the genuine article, you may want to venture out into 359-366 territory.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Dave
Another site to visit is: www.jamesdire.net/W-F. A nice site for Washington/Franklin ID. Scroll down the home page and he shows a picture of bluish paper next to regular paper.
Mel
(Modified by Moderator on 2013-11-26 18:12:06)
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Nicve site, Mel. Thanks for posting the link.
One thing to point out is that the "bluish" paper actually appear more grayish than blue. The image is real good at showing that.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
davefor
When I had a large lot, I would check for the Bluish Papers by looking at the reverse side of all the stamps at one time, but with a large orange colored poster board that the stamps were viewed on. In all my years I've only found three bluish paper stamps, but an old collector taught me this trick. The bluish paper stamps will pop out at you with an orange background.
Another thing to look for is black spots on reverse.
The watermark will also be extremely easy to see on a bluish paper. On other than bluish paper stamps sometimes you can find copies where were the first pass on the dandy roll, but the bluish paper watermarks are always must easier to see.
Hold the bluish paper stamps at a sharp angle, which makes it very easy to identify these difficult stamps.
In all my years of collecting, have only found three of these.
One trick I use, is to carry with me a small orange square, to check stamps at shows or on bid boards.
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Excellent tip!
In a similar vein, I bought a large piece of black matte cardboard to cover the top of my stamp work area. It helps me catch short perfs and other flaws much more easily.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
One thing to remember is that the "bluish" paper is actually more grayish than blue.
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re: 1909 Bluish Paper Stamps?
Hi All
I was thinking I should show what I mean, show the results of using orange background when looking for the bluish paper stamps.
So here goes"
Now the bluish paper stamp here is mint, but you'll see the same result with used stamps!
Can you decide which stamp is on bluish paper? I'm sure everyone can determine which is on bluish paper.
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
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