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24 Nov 2013
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I have a question about mail delivery in the US. Every year I send my brother in law a birthday card to his place of business. The envelope is addressed to him and then the mailing address, I don't fill out a C/O line.

Problem is he never receives the cards. The only thing we can think of is that the mail carrier assumes the mail is being delivered to the wrong place because the business name does not appear on the envelope.

My question is should the mail not get delivered to the address regardless of the name on the envelope. Should he be talking to his local postmaster? If they think the mail is misaddressed should it not be coming back to me as undeliverable?

Any help that you can shed would be great.


Many thanks,

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24 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

Is it a large business? If so, it could be getting rejected at the corporate mail room; some corporations don't allow personal mail or phone calls. Just a thought.

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24 Nov 2013
05:46:39pm
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At the last company I worked for the so called " Mail boys" would steal every piece of mail that looked like a card. They where caught but not until camera's and Mail bait was used. They were both fired and I believe prosecuted.

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24 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

Thanks guys,

It is his company and the mail is delivered to a PO Box so I am thinking it is a problem somewhere in the chain of the letters getting there.

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24 Nov 2013
08:02:42pm
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My suggestion is to address the card to the company, and then in the bottom left corner of the envelope, write "Attention: name of your brother". If it doesn't get delivered then, have your brother check his mail room.

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24 Nov 2013
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if it's a PO box, the company name is immaterial; the PO will deliver it to the box. The box is the ONLY local identifier needed.

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24 Nov 2013
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heh heh. Right, Dave. I said it backwards... What I wanted to say was if it is a private box, and you want to add a company name, you have to add it to the application (can be done at any time if you are the box renter). I deleted the incorrect information from my post above.

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24 Nov 2013
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"Every year I send my brother in law a birthday card to his place of business. ...Problem is he never receives the cards."



It seems to me that, after several failed attempts, you probably should send the next birthday card to his residence address. Winking

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Steve, that does seem sensible

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24 Nov 2013
09:37:27pm
re: A question about USPS Delivery

"It seems to me that, after several failed attempts, you probably should send the next birthday card to his residence address."



Same problem with that address, that is why I started sending to his business.

I know it has nothing to do with his staff as he is the only one with the key to the box. one with the key to the box. I will confirm if it is an official PO box or a private one.

Thanks again for all your suggestions.

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24 Nov 2013
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Does your non-card correspondence get delivered?

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25 Nov 2013
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"Same problem with that address, that is why I started sending to his business. "



Very odd; the only mail that goes missing is mail you send to your brother-in-law, whether to his home or to his business. Thinking

One thought: Try printing out the name and address on a label instead of writing it on the enevelope, as most people would do for birthday cards.

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25 Nov 2013
08:08:25am
re: A question about USPS Delivery

"Does your non-card correspondence get delivered?"



Only thing we send are cards. Email and texting etc. is generally how we keep in contact. Parcels are delivered via UPS.

I will try the suggestion of making it look like business correspondance to see if that works. I sense an experiment coming up.

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25 Nov 2013
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What fun! Send two cards, one addressed as usual, and the other addressed as suggested. Let's see what happens!

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25 Nov 2013
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and, of course, we all assume it's USPS, but could, in fact, be Canada Post.

with minor exceptions, i find mail to/from Canada to be the slowest and most problematic of mail

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25 Nov 2013
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It may not be either postal service at all. It could be US Customs.

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25 Nov 2013
09:22:08am
re: A question about USPS Delivery

"we all assume it's USPS, but could, in fact, be Canada Post."



I have admitted this as a possibility, however it is also domestic mail (with in the US) where he also has this problem.

I will give you that Canada Post seems to move at a snails pace when working their fastest.

"It may not be either postal service at all. It could be US Customs."



Going on the assumption that US Customs operates like Canada Customs with postal importations, Official notice would be provided for any thing that is done with in the rules (I work for the Canadian version).

He is out of town on business and I hope to clarify some stuff with him when he is back. Thanks everyone.

Alyn

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25 Nov 2013
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Not questioning anyone or anything here, but you did check the address right? All it would take is "Road" substituted for "Avenue" for it to get to an incorrect, yet existent, place.

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Alyn, one of my books that was sent to a customer in Russia two years ago is still showing as sitting in US Customs in St. Louis. I guess after everyone in US Customs and Homeland Security reads it, they will send it on to Russia. (Maybe they're looking for the secret codes embedded in the text...)

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24 Nov 2013
04:51:50pm

I have a question about mail delivery in the US. Every year I send my brother in law a birthday card to his place of business. The envelope is addressed to him and then the mailing address, I don't fill out a C/O line.

Problem is he never receives the cards. The only thing we can think of is that the mail carrier assumes the mail is being delivered to the wrong place because the business name does not appear on the envelope.

My question is should the mail not get delivered to the address regardless of the name on the envelope. Should he be talking to his local postmaster? If they think the mail is misaddressed should it not be coming back to me as undeliverable?

Any help that you can shed would be great.


Many thanks,

Alyn

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re: A question about USPS Delivery

Is it a large business? If so, it could be getting rejected at the corporate mail room; some corporations don't allow personal mail or phone calls. Just a thought.

Cheers,
Peter

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re: A question about USPS Delivery

At the last company I worked for the so called " Mail boys" would steal every piece of mail that looked like a card. They where caught but not until camera's and Mail bait was used. They were both fired and I believe prosecuted.

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Thanks guys,

It is his company and the mail is delivered to a PO Box so I am thinking it is a problem somewhere in the chain of the letters getting there.

Thanks,

Alyn

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24 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

My suggestion is to address the card to the company, and then in the bottom left corner of the envelope, write "Attention: name of your brother". If it doesn't get delivered then, have your brother check his mail room.

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re: A question about USPS Delivery

if it's a PO box, the company name is immaterial; the PO will deliver it to the box. The box is the ONLY local identifier needed.

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24 Nov 2013
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heh heh. Right, Dave. I said it backwards... What I wanted to say was if it is a private box, and you want to add a company name, you have to add it to the application (can be done at any time if you are the box renter). I deleted the incorrect information from my post above.

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24 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

"Every year I send my brother in law a birthday card to his place of business. ...Problem is he never receives the cards."



It seems to me that, after several failed attempts, you probably should send the next birthday card to his residence address. Winking

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Steve, that does seem sensible

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24 Nov 2013
09:37:27pm

re: A question about USPS Delivery

"It seems to me that, after several failed attempts, you probably should send the next birthday card to his residence address."



Same problem with that address, that is why I started sending to his business.

I know it has nothing to do with his staff as he is the only one with the key to the box. one with the key to the box. I will confirm if it is an official PO box or a private one.

Thanks again for all your suggestions.

Alyn
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24 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

Does your non-card correspondence get delivered?

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25 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

"Same problem with that address, that is why I started sending to his business. "



Very odd; the only mail that goes missing is mail you send to your brother-in-law, whether to his home or to his business. Thinking

One thought: Try printing out the name and address on a label instead of writing it on the enevelope, as most people would do for birthday cards.

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25 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

"Does your non-card correspondence get delivered?"



Only thing we send are cards. Email and texting etc. is generally how we keep in contact. Parcels are delivered via UPS.

I will try the suggestion of making it look like business correspondance to see if that works. I sense an experiment coming up.

Alyn
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25 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

What fun! Send two cards, one addressed as usual, and the other addressed as suggested. Let's see what happens!

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re: A question about USPS Delivery

and, of course, we all assume it's USPS, but could, in fact, be Canada Post.

with minor exceptions, i find mail to/from Canada to be the slowest and most problematic of mail

David

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25 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

It may not be either postal service at all. It could be US Customs.

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re: A question about USPS Delivery

"we all assume it's USPS, but could, in fact, be Canada Post."



I have admitted this as a possibility, however it is also domestic mail (with in the US) where he also has this problem.

I will give you that Canada Post seems to move at a snails pace when working their fastest.

"It may not be either postal service at all. It could be US Customs."



Going on the assumption that US Customs operates like Canada Customs with postal importations, Official notice would be provided for any thing that is done with in the rules (I work for the Canadian version).

He is out of town on business and I hope to clarify some stuff with him when he is back. Thanks everyone.

Alyn

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25 Nov 2013
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Not questioning anyone or anything here, but you did check the address right? All it would take is "Road" substituted for "Avenue" for it to get to an incorrect, yet existent, place.

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25 Nov 2013
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re: A question about USPS Delivery

Alyn, one of my books that was sent to a customer in Russia two years ago is still showing as sitting in US Customs in St. Louis. I guess after everyone in US Customs and Homeland Security reads it, they will send it on to Russia. (Maybe they're looking for the secret codes embedded in the text...)

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