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04 Jan 2014
04:42:07pm
List your ideas for members to consider in putting together approval books.

I would like to see anything pre-1940, but especially the following areas: Spanish colonies, British Commonwealth to 1960, other European colonial issues, Germany (incl BOB), Russia (soviet era to 1945), Liberia to 1945, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Andorra.

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Jlav

04 Jan 2014
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More of a where do they fit rather than a want. How about Cinderellas. Would they be put in Topicals or Other Philately Related ...or?

Jacques.

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04 Jan 2014
05:36:06pm
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BACK OF THE BOOK STUFF(Match & Medicine, Proofs, Essays, Revenues, Wines, E.F.O.'s, etc.) The list is quite long, and I'd love to see it all represented. Often it can be pricey, but mostly not so. If the seller wants action, try not to price it above 10-20% of the cat.val. Remember that the demand for these items doesn't match the demand for the front of the book stuff. On the other hand, those who venture into these areas are a most hardy group and they do tend to persevere to fill their wants.
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04 Jan 2014
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Jacques: Good question, same thing has come up in the auction discussions. If it is an entire book with many Cinderella issues and more than one theme, I'd say Other Philately Related. If all the Cinderellas have the same theme, then Topicals would be my choice.

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dell4c

04 Jan 2014
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|'d like to see some U.S. precancels - I have an album for the bureau issues and would like to be able to fill in a bunch of spaces Happy

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07 Jan 2014
12:57:48am
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"How about Cinderellas. Would they be put in Topicals or Other Philately Related ...or?"



One thing Cinderellas definitely ARE NOT it's topicals.
There are plenty of topicals within Cinderellas but they should never be placed within it.

It was mentioned by cocollectables a while ago that the Penny lots are a dead feature in the approvals. Because of what they are they will never be used.

I don't like to stick my hand up for Cinderellas again but I will. Maybe someone will agree with me this time ?? Winking

If the Penny Lots can be taken out and replaced by Cinderellas, then it would be a giant step towards giving the non-postal varieties the credit they deserve.

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cocollectibles

07 Jan 2014
07:51:54am
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"Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals" was suggested as a category, but are the first two redundant?

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07 Jan 2014
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depends, Peter. Label might refer to etiquettes, which serve a postal function, while Cinderellas don't, although they have been known to tickle the whimsy bone.

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07 Jan 2014
04:43:58pm
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""Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals" was suggested as a category, but are the first two redundant?"



Can you elaborate on that ? Redundant from what ?

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Label might refer to etiquettes, which serve a postal function"



It depends which etiquettes you are talking about. Labels, seals and etiquettes (the air mail kind) all fall under the Cinderella umbrella. So just a simple deleting of Penny Lots substituted by one word....Cinderellas.

Then everyone will understand....won't they ?? Batting Eyelashes

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07 Jan 2014
04:58:14pm
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Not every seller will understand the precise distinctions.

Therefore, "Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals", even though it may be redundant, in my opinion, is the better category title.

A simple "Cinderellas" will likely lead to a whole bunch of questions as to whether airmail labels and Christmas seals qualify!

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07 Jan 2014
07:27:47pm
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K.I.S.S.-- How about "Everything else Philatelic" all encompassing!!!!!

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07 Jan 2014
07:35:52pm
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I agree with the Dude in Blue.
There are more than enough angels dancing on this pinhead.

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07 Jan 2014
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"There are more than enough angels dancing on this pinhead.
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Hey I resemble that remark!!!!!LaughingRolling On The Floor Laughing

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08 Jan 2014
02:03:38am
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"How about "Everything else Philatelic" all encompassing!!!!! "



Methinks someone hasn't read the list properly ! D'OhAlso the recent posts have been about a specific area of Philately and not something general. An area that deserves it's own place like it has almost everywhere else. (except Stamporama)

The APPROVAL BOOK CATEGORIES clearly reads......

Postcards
Mixtures & Packets
OTHER PHILATELY RELATED = "Everything else Philatelic"
Penny Lots
Topicals
Revenues

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BobbyBarnhart
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08 Jan 2014
10:03:30am
re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

Please read my original post. I did not request possible categories for the Approvals books, but rather suggestions for areas for members to concentrate on when assembling books. If you want to discuss category titles, please start a new thread.

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08 Jan 2014
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Bobby,

Why did you not make that post after the first two replies to your original question ??
It would have been sensible to have done so would it not ? It seemed to me like you were joining in with the 'curve' of the thread like Jlav and Dani20. Confused

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Jacques: Good question, same thing has come up in the auction discussions. If it is an entire book with many Cinderella issues and more than one theme, I'd say Other Philately Related. If all the Cinderellas have the same theme, then Topicals would be my choice"

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Please read my original post. I did not request possible categories for the Approvals books, but rather suggestions for areas for members to concentrate on when assembling books. If you want to discuss category titles, please start a new thread"



As has been discussed before, topics do bend a bit, some more than others.

So to get this one back on track, I'd like to see Cinderellas listed.

Londonbus1....but where, I don't know !! Laughing

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BobbyBarnhart
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08 Jan 2014
03:33:31pm
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Minor deviations to respond to questions do not constitute egregious, off topic ramblings. My response to Jlav was succinct and to the point. I was not shifting focus as you did in your following post. As to Dan's post, it was squarely on target in that he was requesting members to post revenues.

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Stampphile

08 Jan 2014
08:25:23pm
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Flags, maps, KennedyParty

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cocollectibles

09 Jan 2014
06:32:01am
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"Flags, maps, Kennedy "


Patriotic things, things you find in Washington, things in the White House ... Wait, this isn't the $100,000 Pyramid Game? Batting Eyelashes

Okay, back on topic: I would love to see any 19th century stamps in the approval book offerings.

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09 Jan 2014
06:36:09am
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Crete would be nice... although I realise most of us won't have much of this to hand!Happy

Otherwise Ottoman Turkey, Imperial Russia, Austro-Hungary, and older Bulgaria and Finland would be fun.

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09 Jan 2014
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To further Nigel's request, as collector of the classic era (by my personal definition, 1840 -1940), I would love to see a book titled something like "Dead Countries of Europe." Since few of us would have enough material to make a book of one country, perhaps someone could combine several such countries into one book (e.g., Crete, Thrace, Eastern Rumelia, etc.)

There are a lot of areas which might lend themselves to such "combining."

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04 Jan 2014
04:42:07pm

List your ideas for members to consider in putting together approval books.

I would like to see anything pre-1940, but especially the following areas: Spanish colonies, British Commonwealth to 1960, other European colonial issues, Germany (incl BOB), Russia (soviet era to 1945), Liberia to 1945, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Andorra.

What are your wants?

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Jlav

04 Jan 2014
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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

More of a where do they fit rather than a want. How about Cinderellas. Would they be put in Topicals or Other Philately Related ...or?

Jacques.

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04 Jan 2014
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BACK OF THE BOOK STUFF(Match & Medicine, Proofs, Essays, Revenues, Wines, E.F.O.'s, etc.) The list is quite long, and I'd love to see it all represented. Often it can be pricey, but mostly not so. If the seller wants action, try not to price it above 10-20% of the cat.val. Remember that the demand for these items doesn't match the demand for the front of the book stuff. On the other hand, those who venture into these areas are a most hardy group and they do tend to persevere to fill their wants.
Best,
Dan C.

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Jacques: Good question, same thing has come up in the auction discussions. If it is an entire book with many Cinderella issues and more than one theme, I'd say Other Philately Related. If all the Cinderellas have the same theme, then Topicals would be my choice.

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dell4c

04 Jan 2014
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|'d like to see some U.S. precancels - I have an album for the bureau issues and would like to be able to fill in a bunch of spaces Happy

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londonbus1

07 Jan 2014
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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

"How about Cinderellas. Would they be put in Topicals or Other Philately Related ...or?"



One thing Cinderellas definitely ARE NOT it's topicals.
There are plenty of topicals within Cinderellas but they should never be placed within it.

It was mentioned by cocollectables a while ago that the Penny lots are a dead feature in the approvals. Because of what they are they will never be used.

I don't like to stick my hand up for Cinderellas again but I will. Maybe someone will agree with me this time ?? Winking

If the Penny Lots can be taken out and replaced by Cinderellas, then it would be a giant step towards giving the non-postal varieties the credit they deserve.

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07 Jan 2014
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"Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals" was suggested as a category, but are the first two redundant?

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depends, Peter. Label might refer to etiquettes, which serve a postal function, while Cinderellas don't, although they have been known to tickle the whimsy bone.

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07 Jan 2014
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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

""Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals" was suggested as a category, but are the first two redundant?"



Can you elaborate on that ? Redundant from what ?

"

Label might refer to etiquettes, which serve a postal function"



It depends which etiquettes you are talking about. Labels, seals and etiquettes (the air mail kind) all fall under the Cinderella umbrella. So just a simple deleting of Penny Lots substituted by one word....Cinderellas.

Then everyone will understand....won't they ?? Batting Eyelashes

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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

Not every seller will understand the precise distinctions.

Therefore, "Cinderellas, Labels, and Seals", even though it may be redundant, in my opinion, is the better category title.

A simple "Cinderellas" will likely lead to a whole bunch of questions as to whether airmail labels and Christmas seals qualify!

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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

K.I.S.S.-- How about "Everything else Philatelic" all encompassing!!!!!

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I agree with the Dude in Blue.
There are more than enough angels dancing on this pinhead.

John Derry

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"There are more than enough angels dancing on this pinhead.
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08 Jan 2014
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"How about "Everything else Philatelic" all encompassing!!!!! "



Methinks someone hasn't read the list properly ! D'OhAlso the recent posts have been about a specific area of Philately and not something general. An area that deserves it's own place like it has almost everywhere else. (except Stamporama)

The APPROVAL BOOK CATEGORIES clearly reads......

Postcards
Mixtures & Packets
OTHER PHILATELY RELATED = "Everything else Philatelic"
Penny Lots
Topicals
Revenues

Londonbus1

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Please read my original post. I did not request possible categories for the Approvals books, but rather suggestions for areas for members to concentrate on when assembling books. If you want to discuss category titles, please start a new thread.

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08 Jan 2014
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Bobby,

Why did you not make that post after the first two replies to your original question ??
It would have been sensible to have done so would it not ? It seemed to me like you were joining in with the 'curve' of the thread like Jlav and Dani20. Confused

"

Jacques: Good question, same thing has come up in the auction discussions. If it is an entire book with many Cinderella issues and more than one theme, I'd say Other Philately Related. If all the Cinderellas have the same theme, then Topicals would be my choice"

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Please read my original post. I did not request possible categories for the Approvals books, but rather suggestions for areas for members to concentrate on when assembling books. If you want to discuss category titles, please start a new thread"



As has been discussed before, topics do bend a bit, some more than others.

So to get this one back on track, I'd like to see Cinderellas listed.

Londonbus1....but where, I don't know !! Laughing

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Minor deviations to respond to questions do not constitute egregious, off topic ramblings. My response to Jlav was succinct and to the point. I was not shifting focus as you did in your following post. As to Dan's post, it was squarely on target in that he was requesting members to post revenues.

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08 Jan 2014
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Flags, maps, KennedyParty

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09 Jan 2014
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"Flags, maps, Kennedy "


Patriotic things, things you find in Washington, things in the White House ... Wait, this isn't the $100,000 Pyramid Game? Batting Eyelashes

Okay, back on topic: I would love to see any 19th century stamps in the approval book offerings.

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09 Jan 2014
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Crete would be nice... although I realise most of us won't have much of this to hand!Happy

Otherwise Ottoman Turkey, Imperial Russia, Austro-Hungary, and older Bulgaria and Finland would be fun.

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re: Suggestions for Approval Books - subject areas

To further Nigel's request, as collector of the classic era (by my personal definition, 1840 -1940), I would love to see a book titled something like "Dead Countries of Europe." Since few of us would have enough material to make a book of one country, perhaps someone could combine several such countries into one book (e.g., Crete, Thrace, Eastern Rumelia, etc.)

There are a lot of areas which might lend themselves to such "combining."

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