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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

 

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snowy12
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26 Jan 2014
09:26:28pm

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Could someone please tell me how you tell the difference between the various overprints ?Scott's gives sizes but gives no indication were you actually measure from.I have these two I can see they are not the same and there is a big variation in cat value.
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michael78651
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26 Jan 2014
10:06:49pm
re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

In your two examples, the easiest way to tell is first look at the year "1922". You will see that they are different on the two stamps.

The 1P stamp can only be Scott #2.

With the other stamp, the overprint will vary in size depending on the printer that overprinted the stamps. Scott states the size for each overprint. You'll just have to measure it.

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Martyn
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27 Jan 2014
02:55:31am
re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

The 2d stamp in SG has the following information:-

The Harrison overprint measures 15 x 17 mm (maximum) against the 14 1/2 x 16 mm of the Thom & Co printing which is a much bolder black than the latter, while the individual letters are taller, the i of Rialtas being especially outstanding.

There are differences in 2 Thom printings as well and there are two different dies of the actual 2 d stamp itself which may not be mentioned in Scott but I don't have a Scott to refer to to check. Hope this helps and doesn't further confuse

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27 Jan 2014
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re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

Scott does list the dies. You have to go to the Great Britain listing to get the information on the differences with those.

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snowy12

26 Jan 2014
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Could someone please tell me how you tell the difference between the various overprints ?Scott's gives sizes but gives no indication were you actually measure from.I have these two I can see they are not the same and there is a big variation in cat value.
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Thanks in advance.
Brian

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michael78651

26 Jan 2014
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re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

In your two examples, the easiest way to tell is first look at the year "1922". You will see that they are different on the two stamps.

The 1P stamp can only be Scott #2.

With the other stamp, the overprint will vary in size depending on the printer that overprinted the stamps. Scott states the size for each overprint. You'll just have to measure it.

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Martyn

27 Jan 2014
02:55:31am

re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

The 2d stamp in SG has the following information:-

The Harrison overprint measures 15 x 17 mm (maximum) against the 14 1/2 x 16 mm of the Thom & Co printing which is a much bolder black than the latter, while the individual letters are taller, the i of Rialtas being especially outstanding.

There are differences in 2 Thom printings as well and there are two different dies of the actual 2 d stamp itself which may not be mentioned in Scott but I don't have a Scott to refer to to check. Hope this helps and doesn't further confuse

martyn

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27 Jan 2014
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re: Irish overprints how do you differentiate between them?

Scott does list the dies. You have to go to the Great Britain listing to get the information on the differences with those.

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