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General Philatelic/Identify This? : ID variant of Edward VII purple on yellow paper

 

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seastamp

30 Jan 2014
01:20:43am
Hi

Here is another Edward VII I'm trying to ID, main question is paper color. This is perf 14 with a single watermark large crown (wmk 30). I don't have known examples of chalky paper, but this doesn't seem that different than other stamps that were issued only on regular paper. I'm comparing it to the Victoria Jubilee stamp of the same design, which I believe is the common #115 3 p violet on yellow (scanned together). The paper color looks exactly the same to me, or very close, but I wouldn't call the Edward VII orange yellow, which is what the commonest varieties are called. If this is the lemon paper, is it 132b? Scott catalogue shows the other lemon variants (132f, g, h) as printed on chalky paper with wmk of "Three Imperial Crowns (30)". Does that mean 3 actual watermarks? I only see a single 30 in the center. An additional lemon in Scott (#149) is perf 15X14.

I'm also not sure it's a De La Rue print, because I had to get paper off the back to see the watermark. I didn't fully soak it and wetted it very slowly and carefully from the back, but the stamp did end up getting fully saturated with water. I don't know whether that treatment would cause issues with the DLR ink.

Looking at other examples on the web, all the paper just looks the same yellow to me.

Thanks for any input SoR community!

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30 Jan 2014
02:50:41am
re: ID variant of Edward VII purple on yellow paper

"Scott catalogue shows the other lemon variants (132f, g, h) as printed on chalky paper with wmk of "Three Imperial Crowns (30)". Does that mean 3 actual watermarks? I only see a single 30 in the center."


The catalog listing heading is what causes this confusion; a spot where the catalog editors could tidy things up a bit.

The header "Wmk. Three Imperial Crowns (30)" applies ONLY to the listing of #142 (and minor catalog varieties thereof). This stamp (£1 King Edward VII) is so wide that 3 of the imperial crown watermarks appear on the stamp. In the NEXT listing section that follows with the other smaller sized definitives, only one crown appears on each stamp.

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seastamp

30 Jan 2014
01:20:43am

Hi

Here is another Edward VII I'm trying to ID, main question is paper color. This is perf 14 with a single watermark large crown (wmk 30). I don't have known examples of chalky paper, but this doesn't seem that different than other stamps that were issued only on regular paper. I'm comparing it to the Victoria Jubilee stamp of the same design, which I believe is the common #115 3 p violet on yellow (scanned together). The paper color looks exactly the same to me, or very close, but I wouldn't call the Edward VII orange yellow, which is what the commonest varieties are called. If this is the lemon paper, is it 132b? Scott catalogue shows the other lemon variants (132f, g, h) as printed on chalky paper with wmk of "Three Imperial Crowns (30)". Does that mean 3 actual watermarks? I only see a single 30 in the center. An additional lemon in Scott (#149) is perf 15X14.

I'm also not sure it's a De La Rue print, because I had to get paper off the back to see the watermark. I didn't fully soak it and wetted it very slowly and carefully from the back, but the stamp did end up getting fully saturated with water. I don't know whether that treatment would cause issues with the DLR ink.

Looking at other examples on the web, all the paper just looks the same yellow to me.

Thanks for any input SoR community!

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30 Jan 2014
02:50:41am

re: ID variant of Edward VII purple on yellow paper

"Scott catalogue shows the other lemon variants (132f, g, h) as printed on chalky paper with wmk of "Three Imperial Crowns (30)". Does that mean 3 actual watermarks? I only see a single 30 in the center."


The catalog listing heading is what causes this confusion; a spot where the catalog editors could tidy things up a bit.

The header "Wmk. Three Imperial Crowns (30)" applies ONLY to the listing of #142 (and minor catalog varieties thereof). This stamp (£1 King Edward VII) is so wide that 3 of the imperial crown watermarks appear on the stamp. In the NEXT listing section that follows with the other smaller sized definitives, only one crown appears on each stamp.

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