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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Mount Remnants

 

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John Macco
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15 Apr 2014
06:47:01pm
I have many stamps of russia from a collection I bought which look like the following pictureImage Not Found
The spots are remnants from the mount the stamp was mounted in. Stamp has original gum before being put in the mount. How would I describe the stamp? mint, mount remant???
Would it also be prudent to show both sides of the stamps? I am going to put these stamps in sor auctions and wanted guidance how to describe and value these stamps.
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15 Apr 2014
07:22:59pm
re: Mount Remnants

I would say "mint with small mount adhesions" and I would scan front and back.

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16 Apr 2014
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i think Bobby did a good job. his description is fine. you NEED to warn collectors that, while MNH, there is gum damage. I agree, in this case, to showcase the reverse.

MNH collectors might weigh in here; i would be tempted to indicate the MNH with damage and include a single stamp with remnants and use it as example of all stamps, assuming that was basically true. what do you think?

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16 Apr 2014
12:17:13pm
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I would not call it MNH. I would call it unused with black paper adhesions on the back. MNH to me denotes an uncirculated stamp with perfect gum on the back. You wouldn't call a coin with damage "uncirculated", uncirculated meaning - when the features of the coin are sharp and the luster approaches the state of the coin at the mint.

I have found through the years that several European countries put stamp sets and year sets on black stock pages that are not safe for philatelic storage. The paper fibers of the black stock pages tend to adhere to the gum over time. In particular, I found this to be prevalent on Russia (just as John showed) and East Germany.

If you go back to the 1960s, some stamp packets made in Europe contain a glassine-type strip in rows across a piece of cardstock. The strip was gummed and wet with the stamps then placed over the strip. Unused stamps were often damaged beyond collectability. Used stamps would usually come off the strip without much difficulty. This includes packets assembled in Europe and sold in the US by HE Harris.

I bought several packets like this during my first trip to Europe (I was 14). After I got home and opened my "prizes" of European stamp packets, I was quite disappointed with what I saw. I didn't buy these packets anymore, but I have run across packets like these in box lots that I have won over the years, and have seen the same.

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John Macco

Astrophilatelist- Space Cover Collector
15 Apr 2014
06:47:01pm

I have many stamps of russia from a collection I bought which look like the following pictureImage Not Found
The spots are remnants from the mount the stamp was mounted in. Stamp has original gum before being put in the mount. How would I describe the stamp? mint, mount remant???
Would it also be prudent to show both sides of the stamps? I am going to put these stamps in sor auctions and wanted guidance how to describe and value these stamps.

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re: Mount Remnants

I would say "mint with small mount adhesions" and I would scan front and back.

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16 Apr 2014
09:13:50am

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re: Mount Remnants

i think Bobby did a good job. his description is fine. you NEED to warn collectors that, while MNH, there is gum damage. I agree, in this case, to showcase the reverse.

MNH collectors might weigh in here; i would be tempted to indicate the MNH with damage and include a single stamp with remnants and use it as example of all stamps, assuming that was basically true. what do you think?

David

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michael78651

16 Apr 2014
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re: Mount Remnants

I would not call it MNH. I would call it unused with black paper adhesions on the back. MNH to me denotes an uncirculated stamp with perfect gum on the back. You wouldn't call a coin with damage "uncirculated", uncirculated meaning - when the features of the coin are sharp and the luster approaches the state of the coin at the mint.

I have found through the years that several European countries put stamp sets and year sets on black stock pages that are not safe for philatelic storage. The paper fibers of the black stock pages tend to adhere to the gum over time. In particular, I found this to be prevalent on Russia (just as John showed) and East Germany.

If you go back to the 1960s, some stamp packets made in Europe contain a glassine-type strip in rows across a piece of cardstock. The strip was gummed and wet with the stamps then placed over the strip. Unused stamps were often damaged beyond collectability. Used stamps would usually come off the strip without much difficulty. This includes packets assembled in Europe and sold in the US by HE Harris.

I bought several packets like this during my first trip to Europe (I was 14). After I got home and opened my "prizes" of European stamp packets, I was quite disappointed with what I saw. I didn't buy these packets anymore, but I have run across packets like these in box lots that I have won over the years, and have seen the same.

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