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Looks like a commercial name. Is it like a kiosk that sells stamps and takes mail?
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05:11:21pm
Nice cover! 
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Hi Smauggie,
I believe that violet postmark is for Forchheim, a small town outside the larger town of Neumarkt--pretty sure it's not a business location that sells stamps. I'm really leaning on the term Provisional for this sort of postmark.
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Bruce
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Hi Bruce,
I've seen these called "auxiliary postal agency" cancellations.
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Forchheim is a town some 30 kms north of Nuremberg and Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz is a town 50 kms south east of Nuremberg. Both town are about equal in size, but it seems Forchheim is older and has been more a regional centre than Neumarkt.
This letter seems to have been sent from Forchheim to a certain Ms. Luise Lücke in Wiesbaden and was routed over Neumarkt. I do not understand why Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz was chosen. There are other cities much closer to Forchheim that could have taken over the postal duties when necessary, such as Bamberg, Erlangen, Fürth and Nuremberg.
For a moment I thought that perhaps the post office was closed or moved because of the allied bombing of German cities, but April 1942 was too early for that. Besides that, I doubt that a regional market town such as Forchheim was important enough to be carpet bombed...
In any case, an interesting cover that leads to more questions than that can be answered.
Jan-Simon
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The Royal Air Force undertook its first carpet bombing raid (which it called "area bombing") on the night of March 29/30, 1942 against Lübeck in northern Germany, and continued such raids, in conjunction with the Americans, throughout the rest of the war. Before that, there were a great many smaller raids, but very few that could have been considered successful, because they were rarely able to bomb their targets but inflicted a great deal of damage on empty fields and "accidental" targets. I expect that it is possible that Forchheim was bombed before the cover in question was posted.
Bob
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It is a Posthilfsstellen cancel. Posthilfsstellen, auxiliary postal offices, are postal agencies in small, generally rural communities, that provide only basic postal services. While the letter was posted at the Posthilfsstelle in Forchheim near Neumarkt/Oberpfalz, it was cancelled only at the larger post office to which it was subordinated. This was the practice.
Arno
Add: There are several towns named Forchheim in Germany, and yet more Neumarkts.The Forchheim named in the cancel is a hamlet in the vicinity of the town Neumarkt/Oberpfalz with a population of about 400 in the 1940s.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forchheim_%28Freystadt%29
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Another Forchheim: that would be a perfectly logical explanation. I had not seen it when I checked Google Maps, but this makes a lot of sense. The Neumarkt town was never in doubt: the cancel clearly says "in der Oberpfalz".
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Thanks, Arno. And all for comments.
Bruce
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03:29:53pm
Does anyone know what the violet postmark is termed on this German cover. I believe it is a smaller town likely located outside the larger town of Neumarkt but I can't remember the philatelic term for such postmarks. Provisional just popped into my head. I may have just answered my own question. Did I?
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Looks like a commercial name. Is it like a kiosk that sells stamps and takes mail?
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Nice cover!
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05:28:35pm
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Hi Smauggie,
I believe that violet postmark is for Forchheim, a small town outside the larger town of Neumarkt--pretty sure it's not a business location that sells stamps. I'm really leaning on the term Provisional for this sort of postmark.
Thanks, Poodle_Mum!
Bruce
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re: My Mind Draws Proverbial Blank On Postmark Term
Hi Bruce,
I've seen these called "auxiliary postal agency" cancellations.
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Forchheim is a town some 30 kms north of Nuremberg and Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz is a town 50 kms south east of Nuremberg. Both town are about equal in size, but it seems Forchheim is older and has been more a regional centre than Neumarkt.
This letter seems to have been sent from Forchheim to a certain Ms. Luise Lücke in Wiesbaden and was routed over Neumarkt. I do not understand why Neumarkt in der Oberpfalz was chosen. There are other cities much closer to Forchheim that could have taken over the postal duties when necessary, such as Bamberg, Erlangen, Fürth and Nuremberg.
For a moment I thought that perhaps the post office was closed or moved because of the allied bombing of German cities, but April 1942 was too early for that. Besides that, I doubt that a regional market town such as Forchheim was important enough to be carpet bombed...
In any case, an interesting cover that leads to more questions than that can be answered.
Jan-Simon
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re: My Mind Draws Proverbial Blank On Postmark Term
The Royal Air Force undertook its first carpet bombing raid (which it called "area bombing") on the night of March 29/30, 1942 against Lübeck in northern Germany, and continued such raids, in conjunction with the Americans, throughout the rest of the war. Before that, there were a great many smaller raids, but very few that could have been considered successful, because they were rarely able to bomb their targets but inflicted a great deal of damage on empty fields and "accidental" targets. I expect that it is possible that Forchheim was bombed before the cover in question was posted.
Bob
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re: My Mind Draws Proverbial Blank On Postmark Term
It is a Posthilfsstellen cancel. Posthilfsstellen, auxiliary postal offices, are postal agencies in small, generally rural communities, that provide only basic postal services. While the letter was posted at the Posthilfsstelle in Forchheim near Neumarkt/Oberpfalz, it was cancelled only at the larger post office to which it was subordinated. This was the practice.
Arno
Add: There are several towns named Forchheim in Germany, and yet more Neumarkts.The Forchheim named in the cancel is a hamlet in the vicinity of the town Neumarkt/Oberpfalz with a population of about 400 in the 1940s.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forchheim_%28Freystadt%29
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Another Forchheim: that would be a perfectly logical explanation. I had not seen it when I checked Google Maps, but this makes a lot of sense. The Neumarkt town was never in doubt: the cancel clearly says "in der Oberpfalz".
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Thanks, Arno. And all for comments.
Bruce
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