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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : You won't believe this ebay lot

 

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10 Jul 2014
10:17:16am
If that is a rare stamp, then my collection is worth a bazillion dollars ROFL!!!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281381794161

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Makazi
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10 Jul 2014
10:33:21am
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I think I saw one of those in my kilo ware bag last night!

But it also could be this stamp?

edit: I didn't notice at first that the rare one is imperf on 2 sides. So definitely not the rare version on eBay Winking

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10 Jul 2014
11:35:26am

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

of course, the stamp is described as mint, which appears to belie the little black marks on the green stamp. Perhaps this is really the rare bi-color version that Scott hasn't yet listed and it's worth every farthing being asked.

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10 Jul 2014
11:57:42am
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I sent the seller a question:

"I would like to know what makes the Used stamp so rare and worth that much money. I don't see it. Thank you."

I'm betting he doesn't respond. Happy

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10 Jul 2014
12:02:04pm
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Well, shucks, Janet, the stamp be almost 100 years old it must be rare as a Hen's tooth.

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10 Jul 2014
12:13:36pm
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Hopefully just an uninformed seller thinking he has a 68b and not noting it is the vertical coil that is high value.

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10 Jul 2014
12:42:56pm
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Hi Everyone;

No he probably knows better. eBay is full of this kind of junk. Unfortunately people who run eBay, know very little about stamps. You might as well buy at a garage sale.

Be especially careful of sellers and buyers from Eastern Europe, Russia, India, Italy, China and probably a few others too. In most of those nations, stealing is an institution. To them it's okay as long as you don't get caught.

A particular problem, is getting stamps to your buyer in these countries. The buyer will state "I didn't receive the stamps, and want my money back". Some sellers on eBay refuse to ship to some or all of the above nations. Your buyer may very well be honest, and never gets his items. They were stolen by customs agents in that country. Likely they will be sold the very next day by the person who stole them!!

This is so common that I e-mailed a US customs agent about this. He said that inexpensive stamps or coins, should be declared, however he did not say they MUST be declared, because of their low value.

So I ship my stamps as a letter. I protect them with non-corrugated cardboard, on both sides, about the same size as a photograph. I mark the back of the envelope with a sharpie, "Family photos, Please do not bend, Thank You". I do not declare them on a customs form. I have successfully shipped to Zelenograd, Moscow, India (both coins & stamps) and to Italy.

Not only does the cardboard protect the stamps, but if you hold them up to the light (as a thief would do) you can't see inside, and so they will probably assume they are just photos.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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10 Jul 2014
01:56:01pm

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

well, I wrote to him and he responded. I noted that the black marks make it a cancelled stamp (assuming he knew nothing about stamps) contrary to the mint description.

He wrote that, yes, this is cancelled but others are not, so apparently there are more stamps than just one.

Presumably it's one of the non-illustrated stamps that commands that hefty price.

You will note that he's got 0 sales; i am sure that is so that any negative responses don't adversely affect his real account.

David

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Makazi
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10 Jul 2014
02:29:45pm
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

"Presumably it's one of the non-illustrated stamps that commands that hefty price."



I would think it be better to have a picture of the actual item. Especially when it is at this price. Hmm... maybe when I decide to sell my Toyota I'll put up a picture of a Ferrari Big Grin

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10 Jul 2014
04:10:58pm
re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I reported the item as a fraudulent listing to eBay.

But, a good point is raised by Hungary in that if the seller is uninformed about stamps, what do they do? They tend to automatically gravitate to the most expensive catalog value and presume that it is the one that they have. In this case, it can't even be from the set where 68b comes from - wrong watermark.

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10 Jul 2014
04:34:20pm

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Listing on eBay has ended.

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10 Jul 2014
10:34:04pm
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Hi Everyone;

Here is something, that people not experts using eBay, may not know. An account with a feedback score of zero, and very iffy looking listing, is probably not a newbee. He/she probably opened a new account, after having eBay close their previous account for fraud.

Apparently this happens often, and not much way to stop it by the support people. I think eBay has gotten so big that it is outta control. Kinda like an aircraft carrier trying to turn into the wind for fighter launch, but using an oar for a rudder. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I hafta admit tho, I have gotten some nice deals on there of 500-6000 stamps, and usually paying around 1-2¢. Of course that means a lot of sorting, some damaged, heavy cancels, and lots of duplication, on some of these type lots. However not all of them were like that, some were clean, all different and nice.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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APS #156650
10 Jul 2014
10:17:16am

If that is a rare stamp, then my collection is worth a bazillion dollars ROFL!!!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281381794161

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Makazi

10 Jul 2014
10:33:21am

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I think I saw one of those in my kilo ware bag last night!

But it also could be this stamp?

edit: I didn't notice at first that the rare one is imperf on 2 sides. So definitely not the rare version on eBay Winking

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10 Jul 2014
11:35:26am

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

of course, the stamp is described as mint, which appears to belie the little black marks on the green stamp. Perhaps this is really the rare bi-color version that Scott hasn't yet listed and it's worth every farthing being asked.

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JanetMc

10 Jul 2014
11:57:42am

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I sent the seller a question:

"I would like to know what makes the Used stamp so rare and worth that much money. I don't see it. Thank you."

I'm betting he doesn't respond. Happy

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10 Jul 2014
12:02:04pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Well, shucks, Janet, the stamp be almost 100 years old it must be rare as a Hen's tooth.

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10 Jul 2014
12:13:36pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Hopefully just an uninformed seller thinking he has a 68b and not noting it is the vertical coil that is high value.

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TuskenRaider

10 Jul 2014
12:42:56pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Hi Everyone;

No he probably knows better. eBay is full of this kind of junk. Unfortunately people who run eBay, know very little about stamps. You might as well buy at a garage sale.

Be especially careful of sellers and buyers from Eastern Europe, Russia, India, Italy, China and probably a few others too. In most of those nations, stealing is an institution. To them it's okay as long as you don't get caught.

A particular problem, is getting stamps to your buyer in these countries. The buyer will state "I didn't receive the stamps, and want my money back". Some sellers on eBay refuse to ship to some or all of the above nations. Your buyer may very well be honest, and never gets his items. They were stolen by customs agents in that country. Likely they will be sold the very next day by the person who stole them!!

This is so common that I e-mailed a US customs agent about this. He said that inexpensive stamps or coins, should be declared, however he did not say they MUST be declared, because of their low value.

So I ship my stamps as a letter. I protect them with non-corrugated cardboard, on both sides, about the same size as a photograph. I mark the back of the envelope with a sharpie, "Family photos, Please do not bend, Thank You". I do not declare them on a customs form. I have successfully shipped to Zelenograd, Moscow, India (both coins & stamps) and to Italy.

Not only does the cardboard protect the stamps, but if you hold them up to the light (as a thief would do) you can't see inside, and so they will probably assume they are just photos.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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10 Jul 2014
01:56:01pm

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

well, I wrote to him and he responded. I noted that the black marks make it a cancelled stamp (assuming he knew nothing about stamps) contrary to the mint description.

He wrote that, yes, this is cancelled but others are not, so apparently there are more stamps than just one.

Presumably it's one of the non-illustrated stamps that commands that hefty price.

You will note that he's got 0 sales; i am sure that is so that any negative responses don't adversely affect his real account.

David

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Makazi

10 Jul 2014
02:29:45pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

"Presumably it's one of the non-illustrated stamps that commands that hefty price."



I would think it be better to have a picture of the actual item. Especially when it is at this price. Hmm... maybe when I decide to sell my Toyota I'll put up a picture of a Ferrari Big Grin

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michael78651

10 Jul 2014
04:10:58pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

I reported the item as a fraudulent listing to eBay.

But, a good point is raised by Hungary in that if the seller is uninformed about stamps, what do they do? They tend to automatically gravitate to the most expensive catalog value and presume that it is the one that they have. In this case, it can't even be from the set where 68b comes from - wrong watermark.

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Liz

10 Jul 2014
04:34:20pm

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re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Listing on eBay has ended.

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TuskenRaider

10 Jul 2014
10:34:04pm

re: You won't believe this ebay lot

Hi Everyone;

Here is something, that people not experts using eBay, may not know. An account with a feedback score of zero, and very iffy looking listing, is probably not a newbee. He/she probably opened a new account, after having eBay close their previous account for fraud.

Apparently this happens often, and not much way to stop it by the support people. I think eBay has gotten so big that it is outta control. Kinda like an aircraft carrier trying to turn into the wind for fighter launch, but using an oar for a rudder. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I hafta admit tho, I have gotten some nice deals on there of 500-6000 stamps, and usually paying around 1-2¢. Of course that means a lot of sorting, some damaged, heavy cancels, and lots of duplication, on some of these type lots. However not all of them were like that, some were clean, all different and nice.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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