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I've been looking online for a listing of how many stamp spaces are in each of the first five parts of the Scott Internationals, without success. Here's what I have so far:
Part from to n pg. n sp.
I 1840 1940 1139
II 1940 1949 736
III 1949 1955 568
IV 1956 1959 495
IV 1960 1965 723
So the number of pages is easy, but I have not found the number of spaces anywhere. Has anyone seen these numbers? How about number of spaces by country?
I'm trying to develop a "simple" inventory system. Yeah, right. We all know how that goes... :-)
Thanks,
Steve
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The number of spaces on each page varies, and there will be many blank pages. Also, the first three parts are abridged, with part one especially so. The rest of the album parts are not as abridged, but back-of-the-book material outside of semi-postal and air mail is often not included.
The simplest inventory system would be to create spreadsheets of each country that contain the catalog number range for the years you want to collect. That way, you enter the information when you get a stamp, and the blank spaces act as a want list.
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Assuming that your number of pages is accurate. Is that double sided pages ?
Ignoring the slight overlap;
I 1840 1940 1139 - 100 years 11.4 pages per annum
II 1940 1949 736 - 9 years 81.7 pages per annum
III 1949 1955 568 - 5 years 113.6 pages per annum
IV 1956 1959 495 - 4 years 99.0 pages per annum
V 1960 1965 723 - 5 years 144.6 pages per annum
Assuming that your number of pages is accurate. Is that single sided pages?
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Joe Lill has counted all the spaces in his Big Blue (Scott International Part I 1840-1940), and has given permission for owners of Big Blue albums to use his count.
http://www.musicbyjoelill.com/BigBlue.xls
Bottom Line: 34,611 spaces 
This space count should be good (with a few very minor exceptions) for any Big Blue edition from 1969 or newer. The earlier Big Blue editions will have a different count, as the '69 editors eliminated a number of smaller countries.
BTW, my stamp blog has a checklist for the spaces in Big Blue. So far, countries Aden through Niue have been published.
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Thanks for the responses!
Jim, I love your blog! I have read numerous entries in the past without realizing the value of your checklists. Thanks also to Joe Lill for his spreadsheet. That is exactly what I was looking for. Not sure the vintage of my BB, but I'm pretty sure it is pre-1969. But I can go through and adjust as needed, and eventually add in the latter Parts II-V as well.
Cheers,
Steve
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I've counted the stamp spaces in the newer pages and came up with the following:
International Part I (1840-1940) 1A1 through 1B2 - 34,415
International Part II (1941-1949) - 16,861
International Part III (1950-1954) - 14,039
International Part IV (1955-1959) - 8,621
International Part V (1960-1963) - 11,662
Full page set to 1963 - 85,598
Updated count as three spaces were se tenant stamps as I discovered when I acquired them and was putting them in the album. 
New updated count as a second page for Western Ukrainia was missed in the Part I album.
Yet another updated count as I had a miscount on Vatican City in the Part II album and South Africa in the Part III album.
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Stan Cornyn and Murray Geller filled all the International albums that existed at the time (mid-1970s). According to articles about this feat, the total number of stamps in the first eleven Internationals is 195,219.
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Updated my item count for the International albums to reflect one correction that was encountered as I continued adding stamps to the albums. Now up to 19.0% coverage for the five album, eight binder set for 1840 to 1963 but still adding stamps from a backlog of purchases so expect to definitely get to 20% before I finish adding the existing purchases. Today, I added 240 stamps for Belgium and Norway from two recent purchases. Belgium issues were all for the Part I album which was severely lacking in content while most of the issues for Norway were fairly evenly split across the Part II through V albums.
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I will never make it adding two or three in a day...i should split my 1960-63 Big Blue its really bulging...i have the binders but the shelf space is getting tough.
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Last week, I got my first Scott International, a 1940 edition of Volume 1. I was greatly influenced in my decision to buy it by the Big Blue Blog and have been searching the SOR auctions for stamps to help fill it.
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Incorporated a number of stamps from a local stamp collector's returned APS circuit books over the past weekend. About forty books in all were examined for additions to my albums. Many very nice stamps and sets from Germany, Liechtenstein, Netherlands, and Finland (most of these were added to my new standalone collection) plus some stragglers from Great Britain, Canal Zone, Sweden, and Bosnia and Herzegovina. There were some very nice sets in the approval books with catalog values up to $48.50 in a couple of cases. Still thinking about one stamp from the Netherlands which is Scott #320 with a catalog value of $240! It would fill a probable permanent hole in the album with a very clean, mint lightly hinged copy. I would expect this to be one of the most expensive stamps in an International Part II album!
The additions bring me to 19.9% complete for the International 1840-1963 albums with a total count in the albums of just over 17,000 different stamps for a new milestone and I am still working through a backlog of other purchases from the past year to add to the albums.
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Reached a new milestone this morning, 20,027 stamps for the 85,598 spaces in the albums for an overall completion level of 23.40% stamp spaces now occupied. There are probably 250 used stamps in the albums, a very few early USA and some scattered stamps that were on the pages that I purchased through eBay. Two of the albums have reached 25% completion, Parts IV and V, plus Part II is getting very close.
As a recent motivation, I purchased 10 packages of original Dennison hinges to use with the previously hinged stamps that I put into the albums. My goodness, they are so much better quality than modern hinges in that they almost never curl plus apply and release cleanly. Yes, they are exorbitantly priced, compared to their original package price in particular or to new products, but SO nice in use compared to newer hinges.
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Reached a new milestone with the International 1840-1963 collection with 20,844 stamps in the albums for 24.35% overall completion. And reached 25% complete for the International Part II album so now have 25% of all stamps in the Parts II, IV, and V albums and closing in on the Part I album.
Found one additional count correction as a second page for Western Ukrainia in the Part 1B2 album did not get counted so new album spaces counts are as follows:
International Part 1A1-1B2 34,415
International Part II 16,861
International Part III 14,039
International Part IV 8,621
International Part V 11,662
Grand Total 85,598
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Updated the number of stamps in the International albums as I found a couple of additional miscounts while adding stamps to some countries this week and updating my completion counts. Affected countries were South Africa in Part III and Vatican City in Part II.
I have now reached 23,100 different stamps in the International 1840-1963 albums for 26.99% overall completion after including new stamps over the last couple of months from a Part III binder with partial J-Z pages from 1940-1951 that I purchased via an auction. I have almost caught up with all outstanding purchases with just a couple of envelopes left from some recent Stamporama purchases unless I find some other items that I put to the side and forgot.
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My worldwide collection is housed in the new Minkus Supreme pages. The Minkus pages are printed on 80# stock, while the Scott are on 60# paper. The Minkus Supreme pages have spaces for more complete sets, including high values. For Minkus Supreme through 1963, there are 1,664 double-sided pages, and I counted spaces for 107,863 stamps. I also have punched the pages for 3-ring and have them stored in the Scott Universal binders. These binders hold about 250 double-sided Minkus pages in each binder. This makes it so much easier for me to handle the weight of the albums.
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Thanks very much for your description of the new Scott produced Minkus pages! They definitely sound like an interesting alternative. Are they on the traditional Scott colored paper (beige) or on the traditional Minkus colored paper (white)?
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Made some progress on the International 1840-1963 albums and now have 23,374 of 85,598 different stamps in the albums. Major milestone reached with 25% or higher completion of Parts 1A1-1B2, II, III, IV, and V albums with some recent additions in the Part 1A1-1B2 and III albums finally putting me over the top on those albums.
New stamps were added from purchases on Stamporama, a forgotten set of Part IIIA pages which had some stamps in them (not many but just enough with some unexpected stamps in Italy, Indonesia and Jugoslavia at the end of a almost completely vacant set of pages), and a small envelope of other stamps for the Part 1A1-1B2 album that had fallen between a file cabinet and a desk. Some times fortune smiles on you when you least expect it.
Other than the Stamporama purchases the other stamps were found while cleaning up a bedroom that I have been using as a work area for my stamps for occupancy by my daughter who is coming to visit from Alabama for a week. It does pay to clean-up the room occasionally but I find it a difficult habit to acquire! 
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Reached a new milestone on my International 1840-1963 collection of 27,017 different stamps in the albums. Getting close to 11,000 different on the Parts 1A1-1B2 pages as well. Although I try to avoid adding extras to the albums in addition I have another 598 stamps for the albums which don't fit the required for completion spaces. Currently there are 477 of these for the Parts 1A1-1B2 pages.
New additions were mostly for Italian colonies and occupations related stamps with a few for British Honduras, British East Africa, and related areas.
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Hi to all,
I've been looking online for a listing of how many stamp spaces are in each of the first five parts of the Scott Internationals, without success. Here's what I have so far:
Part from to n pg. n sp.
I 1840 1940 1139
II 1940 1949 736
III 1949 1955 568
IV 1956 1959 495
IV 1960 1965 723
So the number of pages is easy, but I have not found the number of spaces anywhere. Has anyone seen these numbers? How about number of spaces by country?
I'm trying to develop a "simple" inventory system. Yeah, right. We all know how that goes... :-)
Thanks,
Steve
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
The number of spaces on each page varies, and there will be many blank pages. Also, the first three parts are abridged, with part one especially so. The rest of the album parts are not as abridged, but back-of-the-book material outside of semi-postal and air mail is often not included.
The simplest inventory system would be to create spreadsheets of each country that contain the catalog number range for the years you want to collect. That way, you enter the information when you get a stamp, and the blank spaces act as a want list.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Assuming that your number of pages is accurate. Is that double sided pages ?
Ignoring the slight overlap;
I 1840 1940 1139 - 100 years 11.4 pages per annum
II 1940 1949 736 - 9 years 81.7 pages per annum
III 1949 1955 568 - 5 years 113.6 pages per annum
IV 1956 1959 495 - 4 years 99.0 pages per annum
V 1960 1965 723 - 5 years 144.6 pages per annum
Assuming that your number of pages is accurate. Is that single sided pages?
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Joe Lill has counted all the spaces in his Big Blue (Scott International Part I 1840-1940), and has given permission for owners of Big Blue albums to use his count.
http://www.musicbyjoelill.com/BigBlue.xls
Bottom Line: 34,611 spaces
This space count should be good (with a few very minor exceptions) for any Big Blue edition from 1969 or newer. The earlier Big Blue editions will have a different count, as the '69 editors eliminated a number of smaller countries.
BTW, my stamp blog has a checklist for the spaces in Big Blue. So far, countries Aden through Niue have been published.
Fixed link. Mod
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Thanks for the responses!
Jim, I love your blog! I have read numerous entries in the past without realizing the value of your checklists. Thanks also to Joe Lill for his spreadsheet. That is exactly what I was looking for. Not sure the vintage of my BB, but I'm pretty sure it is pre-1969. But I can go through and adjust as needed, and eventually add in the latter Parts II-V as well.
Cheers,
Steve
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
I've counted the stamp spaces in the newer pages and came up with the following:
International Part I (1840-1940) 1A1 through 1B2 - 34,415
International Part II (1941-1949) - 16,861
International Part III (1950-1954) - 14,039
International Part IV (1955-1959) - 8,621
International Part V (1960-1963) - 11,662
Full page set to 1963 - 85,598
Updated count as three spaces were se tenant stamps as I discovered when I acquired them and was putting them in the album.
New updated count as a second page for Western Ukrainia was missed in the Part I album.
Yet another updated count as I had a miscount on Vatican City in the Part II album and South Africa in the Part III album.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Stan Cornyn and Murray Geller filled all the International albums that existed at the time (mid-1970s). According to articles about this feat, the total number of stamps in the first eleven Internationals is 195,219.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Updated my item count for the International albums to reflect one correction that was encountered as I continued adding stamps to the albums. Now up to 19.0% coverage for the five album, eight binder set for 1840 to 1963 but still adding stamps from a backlog of purchases so expect to definitely get to 20% before I finish adding the existing purchases. Today, I added 240 stamps for Belgium and Norway from two recent purchases. Belgium issues were all for the Part I album which was severely lacking in content while most of the issues for Norway were fairly evenly split across the Part II through V albums.
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I will never make it adding two or three in a day...i should split my 1960-63 Big Blue its really bulging...i have the binders but the shelf space is getting tough.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Last week, I got my first Scott International, a 1940 edition of Volume 1. I was greatly influenced in my decision to buy it by the Big Blue Blog and have been searching the SOR auctions for stamps to help fill it.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Incorporated a number of stamps from a local stamp collector's returned APS circuit books over the past weekend. About forty books in all were examined for additions to my albums. Many very nice stamps and sets from Germany, Liechtenstein, Netherlands, and Finland (most of these were added to my new standalone collection) plus some stragglers from Great Britain, Canal Zone, Sweden, and Bosnia and Herzegovina. There were some very nice sets in the approval books with catalog values up to $48.50 in a couple of cases. Still thinking about one stamp from the Netherlands which is Scott #320 with a catalog value of $240! It would fill a probable permanent hole in the album with a very clean, mint lightly hinged copy. I would expect this to be one of the most expensive stamps in an International Part II album!
The additions bring me to 19.9% complete for the International 1840-1963 albums with a total count in the albums of just over 17,000 different stamps for a new milestone and I am still working through a backlog of other purchases from the past year to add to the albums.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Reached a new milestone this morning, 20,027 stamps for the 85,598 spaces in the albums for an overall completion level of 23.40% stamp spaces now occupied. There are probably 250 used stamps in the albums, a very few early USA and some scattered stamps that were on the pages that I purchased through eBay. Two of the albums have reached 25% completion, Parts IV and V, plus Part II is getting very close.
As a recent motivation, I purchased 10 packages of original Dennison hinges to use with the previously hinged stamps that I put into the albums. My goodness, they are so much better quality than modern hinges in that they almost never curl plus apply and release cleanly. Yes, they are exorbitantly priced, compared to their original package price in particular or to new products, but SO nice in use compared to newer hinges.
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Reached a new milestone with the International 1840-1963 collection with 20,844 stamps in the albums for 24.35% overall completion. And reached 25% complete for the International Part II album so now have 25% of all stamps in the Parts II, IV, and V albums and closing in on the Part I album.
Found one additional count correction as a second page for Western Ukrainia in the Part 1B2 album did not get counted so new album spaces counts are as follows:
International Part 1A1-1B2 34,415
International Part II 16,861
International Part III 14,039
International Part IV 8,621
International Part V 11,662
Grand Total 85,598
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Updated the number of stamps in the International albums as I found a couple of additional miscounts while adding stamps to some countries this week and updating my completion counts. Affected countries were South Africa in Part III and Vatican City in Part II.
I have now reached 23,100 different stamps in the International 1840-1963 albums for 26.99% overall completion after including new stamps over the last couple of months from a Part III binder with partial J-Z pages from 1940-1951 that I purchased via an auction. I have almost caught up with all outstanding purchases with just a couple of envelopes left from some recent Stamporama purchases unless I find some other items that I put to the side and forgot.
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My worldwide collection is housed in the new Minkus Supreme pages. The Minkus pages are printed on 80# stock, while the Scott are on 60# paper. The Minkus Supreme pages have spaces for more complete sets, including high values. For Minkus Supreme through 1963, there are 1,664 double-sided pages, and I counted spaces for 107,863 stamps. I also have punched the pages for 3-ring and have them stored in the Scott Universal binders. These binders hold about 250 double-sided Minkus pages in each binder. This makes it so much easier for me to handle the weight of the albums.
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Thanks very much for your description of the new Scott produced Minkus pages! They definitely sound like an interesting alternative. Are they on the traditional Scott colored paper (beige) or on the traditional Minkus colored paper (white)?
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Made some progress on the International 1840-1963 albums and now have 23,374 of 85,598 different stamps in the albums. Major milestone reached with 25% or higher completion of Parts 1A1-1B2, II, III, IV, and V albums with some recent additions in the Part 1A1-1B2 and III albums finally putting me over the top on those albums.
New stamps were added from purchases on Stamporama, a forgotten set of Part IIIA pages which had some stamps in them (not many but just enough with some unexpected stamps in Italy, Indonesia and Jugoslavia at the end of a almost completely vacant set of pages), and a small envelope of other stamps for the Part 1A1-1B2 album that had fallen between a file cabinet and a desk. Some times fortune smiles on you when you least expect it.
Other than the Stamporama purchases the other stamps were found while cleaning up a bedroom that I have been using as a work area for my stamps for occupancy by my daughter who is coming to visit from Alabama for a week. It does pay to clean-up the room occasionally but I find it a difficult habit to acquire!
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re: Number of Spaces in Albums?
Reached a new milestone on my International 1840-1963 collection of 27,017 different stamps in the albums. Getting close to 11,000 different on the Parts 1A1-1B2 pages as well. Although I try to avoid adding extras to the albums in addition I have another 598 stamps for the albums which don't fit the required for completion spaces. Currently there are 477 of these for the Parts 1A1-1B2 pages.
New additions were mostly for Italian colonies and occupations related stamps with a few for British Honduras, British East Africa, and related areas.
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