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I am going through a collection belonging to a friend here in our Condo and these popped up. They look like Cinderellas to me but I wonder if they are not something that was handed out during King George VI Coronation.Sure would appreciate some help with these.
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Those are the 12 basic stamps from the Regalia set printed by Harrison & Sons, produced to commemorate the 1937 coronation of King George VI. They were produced by Albert Harris and designed by T. A. Chaplin.
Originally a sheetlet of 12 cinderellas, they were printed in 6 colors (black, blue, brown, green, mauve, and red). The complete set of all 6 sheetlets was sold for 6 shillings.
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I have a similar "used" specimen from a later era. The stamp below mentions "Anointing Regalia" and shows a couple of ceremonial items. More importantly for me, it shows a 1978 (25 years of Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation) postmark from Plymouth, Montserrat which is now an abandoned city.
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They are not stamps, they are labels.
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"They are not stamps, they are labels."
I would classify these as Cinderella Label stamps since they are bogus (not authorized, or are they?), have no postal validity or claim to be, but are still "stamps".
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I think that "labels" or "cinderellas" are both valid descriptions. Bogus is an adjective that describes a stamp-like object that is created with the intent to deceive. These labels weren't meant to deceive anyone, although the Monserrat usage certainly was deceptive by the person who used the label as postage.
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"They are not stamps, they are labels."
What an extraordinary comment. Of course they are stamps: they are small gummy crinkle-edged paper objects.That makes them stamps.
What they are NOT are POSTAGE stamps.
I do not appear in Scott's 2014 Standard Handsome Men Catalogue. The point at issue is that I am not handsome; my absence from the catalogue does not disqualify me from being termed a man.
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"What an extraordinary comment. Of course they are stamps: they are small gummy crinkle-edged paper objects.That makes them stamps.
What they are NOT are POSTAGE stamps."
Merriam Webster's online dictionary gives several definitions of "stamp." Among those for the noun, are these two (the top two of three; the third being the thing that does the stamping). You'll note that both definitions include payment. Without payment, whether for postal duty or for some other tax, it is not a "stamp."
"2stamp noun
: a small piece of paper that you buy and then stick to an envelope or package to pay the cost of mailing it
: a small piece of paper that is attached to something and that shows that a tax or fee has been paid"
I bring this up because nomenclature is important to me. I've had a similar discussion with another member; I maintain, much as MW does, that "stamp" is reserved for those papers that denote franking privileges and the payment of various taxes. I suppose you could make an argument that by adding a string of adjectives to a five-letter word, you can make its meaning fit your intent, but why would you when you have perfectly good words to describe precisely what you mean without all the trouble.
"Cinderellas," an already broad category, denotes other pieces of paper, that includes seals and labels, whose intent is to raise funds for charity, promote a cause, or otherwise show interesting images or slogans, none of which have any franking privileges.
I am sad I lost the "mint" debate that now requires so much additional description in order to convey an accurate idea, I'd hate to see the same defeat suffered in the face of an area of particular importance to me.
David
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That does it. To avoid any further controversy, I will hereafter refer to them as my "silly little bits of paper".
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I thank you, Bamra1! Among the synonyms for "extraordinary," as in your assertion, "What an extraordinary comment," are these:
exceptional, amazing, astonishing, astounding, sensational, stunning, incredible, phenomenal, striking, outstanding, momentous, impressive, singular, memorable, unforgettable, unique, noteworthy, out of the ordinary, unusual, uncommon, rare, surprising, fantastic, terrific, tremendous, stupendous, awesome, wondrous 
I take no credit for this. All kudos should go to T.H. Esaurus (1564-2014), who was inspired by Mailliw Eraepsekahs.
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Kim, if these are
""silly little bits of paper""
what does one call their selvage?
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" .... what does one call their selvage? ....."
Something for collectors to obsess over 
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"if these are
"silly little bits of paper"
what does one call their selvage?"
sillier little bits of paper
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The edge of silliness?
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Ohhh please, selvage me from this!
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I am going through a collection belonging to a friend here in our Condo and these popped up. They look like Cinderellas to me but I wonder if they are not something that was handed out during King George VI Coronation.
Sure would appreciate some help with these.
Thanks
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re: What are these?
Those are the 12 basic stamps from the Regalia set printed by Harrison & Sons, produced to commemorate the 1937 coronation of King George VI. They were produced by Albert Harris and designed by T. A. Chaplin.
Originally a sheetlet of 12 cinderellas, they were printed in 6 colors (black, blue, brown, green, mauve, and red). The complete set of all 6 sheetlets was sold for 6 shillings.
Very nice!
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07:28:52pm
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I have a similar "used" specimen from a later era. The stamp below mentions "Anointing Regalia" and shows a couple of ceremonial items. More importantly for me, it shows a 1978 (25 years of Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation) postmark from Plymouth, Montserrat which is now an abandoned city.
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They are not stamps, they are labels.
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"They are not stamps, they are labels."
I would classify these as Cinderella Label stamps since they are bogus (not authorized, or are they?), have no postal validity or claim to be, but are still "stamps".
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I think that "labels" or "cinderellas" are both valid descriptions. Bogus is an adjective that describes a stamp-like object that is created with the intent to deceive. These labels weren't meant to deceive anyone, although the Monserrat usage certainly was deceptive by the person who used the label as postage.
Bob
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"They are not stamps, they are labels."
What an extraordinary comment. Of course they are stamps: they are small gummy crinkle-edged paper objects.That makes them stamps.
What they are NOT are POSTAGE stamps.
I do not appear in Scott's 2014 Standard Handsome Men Catalogue. The point at issue is that I am not handsome; my absence from the catalogue does not disqualify me from being termed a man.
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"What an extraordinary comment. Of course they are stamps: they are small gummy crinkle-edged paper objects.That makes them stamps.
What they are NOT are POSTAGE stamps."
Merriam Webster's online dictionary gives several definitions of "stamp." Among those for the noun, are these two (the top two of three; the third being the thing that does the stamping). You'll note that both definitions include payment. Without payment, whether for postal duty or for some other tax, it is not a "stamp."
"2stamp noun
: a small piece of paper that you buy and then stick to an envelope or package to pay the cost of mailing it
: a small piece of paper that is attached to something and that shows that a tax or fee has been paid"
I bring this up because nomenclature is important to me. I've had a similar discussion with another member; I maintain, much as MW does, that "stamp" is reserved for those papers that denote franking privileges and the payment of various taxes. I suppose you could make an argument that by adding a string of adjectives to a five-letter word, you can make its meaning fit your intent, but why would you when you have perfectly good words to describe precisely what you mean without all the trouble.
"Cinderellas," an already broad category, denotes other pieces of paper, that includes seals and labels, whose intent is to raise funds for charity, promote a cause, or otherwise show interesting images or slogans, none of which have any franking privileges.
I am sad I lost the "mint" debate that now requires so much additional description in order to convey an accurate idea, I'd hate to see the same defeat suffered in the face of an area of particular importance to me.
David
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That does it. To avoid any further controversy, I will hereafter refer to them as my "silly little bits of paper".
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I thank you, Bamra1! Among the synonyms for "extraordinary," as in your assertion, "What an extraordinary comment," are these:
exceptional, amazing, astonishing, astounding, sensational, stunning, incredible, phenomenal, striking, outstanding, momentous, impressive, singular, memorable, unforgettable, unique, noteworthy, out of the ordinary, unusual, uncommon, rare, surprising, fantastic, terrific, tremendous, stupendous, awesome, wondrous
I take no credit for this. All kudos should go to T.H. Esaurus (1564-2014), who was inspired by Mailliw Eraepsekahs.
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Kim, if these are
""silly little bits of paper""
what does one call their selvage?
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21 Aug 2014
02:29:42am
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" .... what does one call their selvage? ....."
Something for collectors to obsess over
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"if these are
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what does one call their selvage?"
sillier little bits of paper
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The edge of silliness?
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22 Aug 2014
05:27:32pm
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Ohhh please, selvage me from this!
rrr...
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