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United States/Covers & Postmarks : 1893 Red Wing to Winona

 

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06 Oct 2014
08:49:12pm

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The first thing on this cover that jumps out at me is the hours that the postal service worked back in 1893. This cover was cancelled at 7:30pm in Red Wing and to the best of my abilities it seems to have been received at 7:00am the next morning in Winona, MN.

But what I'm really asking on this cover is, can anyone give me any information about these types of pre-paid covers. It obviously has a very elaborate design for the time.

Regards ... Tim.

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06 Oct 2014
08:59:07pm
re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

That is the stamped envelope for the 1893 Columbian Expo in Chicago. Issued along with the well-known Columbian set of the same year.

Comes in 4 denominations 1c, 2c, 5c and 10c . Scott #U348-351 in the Scott US specialized.

The 1c and 2c are very common, the 5c and 10c less so. Also comes in various sizes, but those are not documented by Scott.

Examples can usually be found on Buckacover in the "US stationery" category.

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06 Oct 2014
10:37:44pm

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re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Thanks Roy. Much appreciated.

Tim.

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Stampme

07 Oct 2014
07:42:19pm
re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Hi Tim,
Here is a little more info from a specialized catalog that makes looking at them kind of fun. Aside from the die groups noted, the envelopes were printed in a variety of sizes on what is described as creamy white paper. There is one watermark common to all. I don't believe any have been found without watermark.

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07 Oct 2014
11:47:55pm

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re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

Tim

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08 Oct 2014
12:56:20am
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Bruce,

Is there a typo in that chart? Should Group D be: "NO Period after cents. No Meridian"?

Otherwise, Group B and Group D are equivalent, unless I'm missing something.

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08 Oct 2014
05:17:21pm
re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Hi Lars,
You've thrown me for a loop with your perfectly normal question because now that I've looked at the chart, my mind has become cluttered with those mathematical scenarios involving a train traveling at 50 miles per hour with one dining car that will arrive in what city and with how many diners!?

I think that there is something amiss with the chart.

However, my mind, as previously mentioned above, is susceptible to the worst sort of confusion when it comes to charts and while you may after all be correct in your observation, another member may come along and demolish your reasonable supposition.

Bruce

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Tim
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06 Oct 2014
08:49:12pm

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The first thing on this cover that jumps out at me is the hours that the postal service worked back in 1893. This cover was cancelled at 7:30pm in Red Wing and to the best of my abilities it seems to have been received at 7:00am the next morning in Winona, MN.

But what I'm really asking on this cover is, can anyone give me any information about these types of pre-paid covers. It obviously has a very elaborate design for the time.

Regards ... Tim.

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06 Oct 2014
08:59:07pm

re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

That is the stamped envelope for the 1893 Columbian Expo in Chicago. Issued along with the well-known Columbian set of the same year.

Comes in 4 denominations 1c, 2c, 5c and 10c . Scott #U348-351 in the Scott US specialized.

The 1c and 2c are very common, the 5c and 10c less so. Also comes in various sizes, but those are not documented by Scott.

Examples can usually be found on Buckacover in the "US stationery" category.

Roy

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Tim
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06 Oct 2014
10:37:44pm

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re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Thanks Roy. Much appreciated.

Tim.

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Stampme

07 Oct 2014
07:42:19pm

re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Hi Tim,
Here is a little more info from a specialized catalog that makes looking at them kind of fun. Aside from the die groups noted, the envelopes were printed in a variety of sizes on what is described as creamy white paper. There is one watermark common to all. I don't believe any have been found without watermark.

Bruce

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07 Oct 2014
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re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Thanks Bruce. Much appreciated.

Tim

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08 Oct 2014
12:56:20am

re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Bruce,

Is there a typo in that chart? Should Group D be: "NO Period after cents. No Meridian"?

Otherwise, Group B and Group D are equivalent, unless I'm missing something.

Lars

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Stampme

08 Oct 2014
05:17:21pm

re: 1893 Red Wing to Winona

Hi Lars,
You've thrown me for a loop with your perfectly normal question because now that I've looked at the chart, my mind has become cluttered with those mathematical scenarios involving a train traveling at 50 miles per hour with one dining car that will arrive in what city and with how many diners!?

I think that there is something amiss with the chart.

However, my mind, as previously mentioned above, is susceptible to the worst sort of confusion when it comes to charts and while you may after all be correct in your observation, another member may come along and demolish your reasonable supposition.

Bruce

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