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Ebay lists several stamps and covers, including a round-the-world flight cover for more almost $3,000. Stamps are issued by Guinea, Tajikistan, and The Gambia, which means that aren't likely stamps at all, but unauthorized by the UPU and therefore bogus.
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Hi Bob & Clayton;
Do either of you remember the PBS Nova episode about Howard Hughes and his Manganese mining operation on the sea floor? The whole idea was a cover story that was so good that it fooled the Nova producers and they knew nothing of what the operation was really all about.
What was actually going on was this; Howard Hughes was cooperating with the United States Navy on an operation to raise a sunken Russian Nuclear submarine. His part was mostly just to provide the cover story, because everyone knew he was always doing wierd stuff like that. It was the best snow job and cover story ever. Kudos to our intelligence community for pulling that whole thing off.
Officially they failed to raise the thing, but who will ever know. It's not like they would announce that they have possession of a multi-million Rubles worth of Soviet State property.
It kind of puts me in mind of the great movie starring Sean Connery, James Earl Jones, Alec Baldwin, and Scott Glen, "The Hunt For Red October". One of the lesser parts was played by Fred Thompson as the Rear Admiral aboard the aircraft carrier Dallas. His distinguished political career included a Senator from Tennessee 1994-2003. The wikipedia article on his career is very interesting reading. Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson
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I do remember that PBS program.
The Hunt for Red October was indeed a good film. Just yesterday I was telling my psychologist about my appreciation of Sean Connery. She had asked me to think of men that I would consider to be role model. I don't know much about Sean Connery as a person, but I find his voice very soothing, despite the fact that he kinda sounds like he has marbles in his mouth. For the record, I find some other male actors' voices to be soothing, even empowering. They include Tom Hanks, James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, and Ian McKellen, all of whom have had inspiring film roles.
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02:50:05am
In the opening scenes of the "Red October" as the submarine carefully works its way out to sea it is preceeded by what is supposed to be a Russian icebreaker. The vessel that plays that role is a USCG 180' Buoy Tender, most of which were equipped to break the thin ice of the Great Lakes. The ship is the same class as the CGC Buttonwood (WAGL-106) or the CGC Papaw (WAGL-308), ships I served on in the Atlantic and the Pacific. They are a part of a class of 38 ships built for service during WWII. Most of those vessels, built in the 1940s were active till after the year 2000 when they were sold or given to foreign navies and some still sail.
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I think the Dallas was the attack sub captained by Scott Glenn, not the aircraft carrier.
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Trivia;
Paramount Studios essentially rented a US submarine to be in the movie. The USS Houston (SSN 713) played the fictional USS Dallas and the surface scenes were filmed off of Long Beach, CA and Port Angelas, WA. Two crew members off the Houston were actually given very small speaking parts in the movie.
The Alfa-class submarine "Konovaljov" commanded by Captain Tupolev is named after Soviet Admiral Arkadij Konovaljov. In March 1945, he sunk the German luxury liner Goya in the Baltic Sea on its way to Kiel, killing 6220 East Prussian refugees out of 6385(See Note)
The US submarine used by Paramount Studios, during the filming, accidentally sunk a tugboat when getting into position to film a scene. One of the submarine's radio antennas snagged the tow cable between the tug and a barge and this pulled the tugboat underwater. One person died
The Oliver Hazard Perry Class frigate USS Reuben James (FFG-57) shown in the film is the actual Reuben James.
The USS Reuben James that intercepts the Red October (when she surfaces to let the crew off) figures prominently in Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising".
Source: movie trivia
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The luxury liner "SS Goya" was torpedoed on April 16, 1945, in the cold, dark Baltic while carrying more than 7,000 sick and wounded soldiers and civilian refugees from Danzig, where the war had started, back to Germany. A Russian submarine intercepted her almost as soon as she put to sea and less that 200 survived who reported that the ship broke apart and sank completely within five minutes.. It is considered one of the worst single sea disaster of all time.
Better known was the torpedoing of the "SS Wilhelm Gustloff," also a luxury liner that had been built to carry German workers on holiday to Spain and the Canary Islands before the war. She set sail from a port in East Prussia, for safety in Germany at the end of January,1945, with between 8,000 and 10,000 refugees, many of whom were wounded soldiers since she was marked as a hospital ship. It is thought that about 9,500 were drowned.
A week later, on February 10th, the "SS General von Stueban" another rescue ship was also sunk in the Baltic Sea by Russian submarines and some 3,000 were drowned.
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Recently in another thread I posted a page from my Battle of the Atlantic exhibit about the Gustloff. If you missed that post, here it is again:
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Is he not on a stamp or am I just missing it? Not on Air Mail Stamp at least?
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Ebay lists several stamps and covers, including a round-the-world flight cover for more almost $3,000. Stamps are issued by Guinea, Tajikistan, and The Gambia, which means that aren't likely stamps at all, but unauthorized by the UPU and therefore bogus.
Bob
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Hi Bob & Clayton;
Do either of you remember the PBS Nova episode about Howard Hughes and his Manganese mining operation on the sea floor? The whole idea was a cover story that was so good that it fooled the Nova producers and they knew nothing of what the operation was really all about.
What was actually going on was this; Howard Hughes was cooperating with the United States Navy on an operation to raise a sunken Russian Nuclear submarine. His part was mostly just to provide the cover story, because everyone knew he was always doing wierd stuff like that. It was the best snow job and cover story ever. Kudos to our intelligence community for pulling that whole thing off.
Officially they failed to raise the thing, but who will ever know. It's not like they would announce that they have possession of a multi-million Rubles worth of Soviet State property.
It kind of puts me in mind of the great movie starring Sean Connery, James Earl Jones, Alec Baldwin, and Scott Glen, "The Hunt For Red October". One of the lesser parts was played by Fred Thompson as the Rear Admiral aboard the aircraft carrier Dallas. His distinguished political career included a Senator from Tennessee 1994-2003. The wikipedia article on his career is very interesting reading. Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dalton_Thompson
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I do remember that PBS program.
The Hunt for Red October was indeed a good film. Just yesterday I was telling my psychologist about my appreciation of Sean Connery. She had asked me to think of men that I would consider to be role model. I don't know much about Sean Connery as a person, but I find his voice very soothing, despite the fact that he kinda sounds like he has marbles in his mouth. For the record, I find some other male actors' voices to be soothing, even empowering. They include Tom Hanks, James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, and Ian McKellen, all of whom have had inspiring film roles.
Bob
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
19 Oct 2014
02:50:05am
re: Howard Hughes
In the opening scenes of the "Red October" as the submarine carefully works its way out to sea it is preceeded by what is supposed to be a Russian icebreaker. The vessel that plays that role is a USCG 180' Buoy Tender, most of which were equipped to break the thin ice of the Great Lakes. The ship is the same class as the CGC Buttonwood (WAGL-106) or the CGC Papaw (WAGL-308), ships I served on in the Atlantic and the Pacific. They are a part of a class of 38 ships built for service during WWII. Most of those vessels, built in the 1940s were active till after the year 2000 when they were sold or given to foreign navies and some still sail.
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I think the Dallas was the attack sub captained by Scott Glenn, not the aircraft carrier.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
19 Oct 2014
09:08:53pm
re: Howard Hughes
Trivia;
Paramount Studios essentially rented a US submarine to be in the movie. The USS Houston (SSN 713) played the fictional USS Dallas and the surface scenes were filmed off of Long Beach, CA and Port Angelas, WA. Two crew members off the Houston were actually given very small speaking parts in the movie.
The Alfa-class submarine "Konovaljov" commanded by Captain Tupolev is named after Soviet Admiral Arkadij Konovaljov. In March 1945, he sunk the German luxury liner Goya in the Baltic Sea on its way to Kiel, killing 6220 East Prussian refugees out of 6385(See Note)
The US submarine used by Paramount Studios, during the filming, accidentally sunk a tugboat when getting into position to film a scene. One of the submarine's radio antennas snagged the tow cable between the tug and a barge and this pulled the tugboat underwater. One person died
The Oliver Hazard Perry Class frigate USS Reuben James (FFG-57) shown in the film is the actual Reuben James.
The USS Reuben James that intercepts the Red October (when she surfaces to let the crew off) figures prominently in Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising".
Source: movie trivia
Note ::
The luxury liner "SS Goya" was torpedoed on April 16, 1945, in the cold, dark Baltic while carrying more than 7,000 sick and wounded soldiers and civilian refugees from Danzig, where the war had started, back to Germany. A Russian submarine intercepted her almost as soon as she put to sea and less that 200 survived who reported that the ship broke apart and sank completely within five minutes.. It is considered one of the worst single sea disaster of all time.
Better known was the torpedoing of the "SS Wilhelm Gustloff," also a luxury liner that had been built to carry German workers on holiday to Spain and the Canary Islands before the war. She set sail from a port in East Prussia, for safety in Germany at the end of January,1945, with between 8,000 and 10,000 refugees, many of whom were wounded soldiers since she was marked as a hospital ship. It is thought that about 9,500 were drowned.
A week later, on February 10th, the "SS General von Stueban" another rescue ship was also sunk in the Baltic Sea by Russian submarines and some 3,000 were drowned.
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re: Howard Hughes
Recently in another thread I posted a page from my Battle of the Atlantic exhibit about the Gustloff. If you missed that post, here it is again:
Bob
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