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Europe/Great Britain : Horizon labels

 

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2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
09:38:02am
Ok I have several samples of GB Horizon labels ...The gold labels with Royal Mail and the large A on them.. I am told they are collectable but that it is illegal to own a mint issue ....Phew mine are all used..... I hoping to find out more about them....
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10 Nov 2014
10:18:31am

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don't know anything about the legality of owning a mint copy; I have heard, though, they are not to be removed from cover, not for legal issues, but because they don't stand up to soaking.

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10 Nov 2014
10:44:23am
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Patience is required to soak them from paper.I have a few that I managed to separate from the paper and two mint examples.

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2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
11:47:35am
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10 Nov 2014
02:13:41pm
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I don't think it's illegal to own one.
This is my straight-edge copy, they also come with kiss die-cut perforations. De La Rue printed in Tete-Beche style though not strictly a tete-Beche pair of course. This was done for ease of cancelling by the Postal teller.
Many types exist and they do make for an interesting sideline GB or (specifically) Machin collection.
Congrats to Charlie on managing to soak them off piece. I have tried and failed on a few occasions. I need to get myself over to Florida for a first hand lesson !! Thinking


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10 Nov 2014
02:15:40pm
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2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
06:31:09pm
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Wow I have both the straight edge and kiss die perforations...The illegal note was passed on to me by a Machin collector in London. who works with the editing of the SG publication....

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malcolm197

11 Nov 2014
09:36:32am
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It isn't illegal as far as I know to own one, as an unused copy is actually unissued and has no value - it is just a label. However the post office employee handing it to you is almost certainly contravening regulations.

The system is that the employee takes the package from you,ascertains the class of mail, and weight, takes your money, issues AND affixes the stamp and puts it into the mailbag behind the counter. The customer does not handle it at all, once it goes to the clerk.

Therefore any unused labels have been "liberated" from the post office counter, post office stores or printer without authorization.

Malcolm

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2010ccg

11 Nov 2014
12:55:44pm
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Intersting ......my friend must have connections.....

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11 Nov 2014
02:44:05pm
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A short rubbing alcohol bath and very carefully extending a sharply pointed tongs slowly usually gets it done, but I'll admit it is a fifty-fifty mission.

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26 Nov 2014
02:25:30pm
re: Horizon labels

Simply lifting the paper from the stamp will fulfill the purpose of the die cuts you can see surrounding the Queen's head, they will go one way while the remainder will part company with the rest of the stamp. That is why I suggest carefully inserting the #908 sharp (lethal) tongs between the stamp and the paper. If you work the point here and there slowly the whole label can be kept intact. Carelessly tugging the one layer from the other is doomed to failure.
I suppose a sharp thin knife blade might also be able to be worked between the layers as well.

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gazza561

19 Mar 2018
04:32:00am
re: Horizon labels

Does anyone on here collect these or are able to obtain reasonable quantities, gold ones and especially the new white ones.
I am looking for some more material to expand my exhibit. Would also like some on covers if possible.

Garry Nicol
Stratford
New Zealand

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19 Mar 2018
11:15:28am
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2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
09:38:02am

Ok I have several samples of GB Horizon labels ...The gold labels with Royal Mail and the large A on them.. I am told they are collectable but that it is illegal to own a mint issue ....Phew mine are all used..... I hoping to find out more about them....

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10 Nov 2014
10:18:31am

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re: Horizon labels

don't know anything about the legality of owning a mint copy; I have heard, though, they are not to be removed from cover, not for legal issues, but because they don't stand up to soaking.

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10 Nov 2014
10:44:23am

re: Horizon labels

Patience is required to soak them from paper.I have a few that I managed to separate from the paper and two mint examples.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
11:47:35am

re: Horizon labels

Charlie I won`t
tell...lolRolling On The Floor Laughing

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londonbus1

10 Nov 2014
02:13:41pm

re: Horizon labels

I don't think it's illegal to own one.
This is my straight-edge copy, they also come with kiss die-cut perforations. De La Rue printed in Tete-Beche style though not strictly a tete-Beche pair of course. This was done for ease of cancelling by the Postal teller.
Many types exist and they do make for an interesting sideline GB or (specifically) Machin collection.
Congrats to Charlie on managing to soak them off piece. I have tried and failed on a few occasions. I need to get myself over to Florida for a first hand lesson !! Thinking


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10 Nov 2014
02:15:40pm

re: Horizon labels

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2010ccg

10 Nov 2014
06:31:09pm

re: Horizon labels

Wow I have both the straight edge and kiss die perforations...The illegal note was passed on to me by a Machin collector in London. who works with the editing of the SG publication....

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malcolm197

11 Nov 2014
09:36:32am

re: Horizon labels

It isn't illegal as far as I know to own one, as an unused copy is actually unissued and has no value - it is just a label. However the post office employee handing it to you is almost certainly contravening regulations.

The system is that the employee takes the package from you,ascertains the class of mail, and weight, takes your money, issues AND affixes the stamp and puts it into the mailbag behind the counter. The customer does not handle it at all, once it goes to the clerk.

Therefore any unused labels have been "liberated" from the post office counter, post office stores or printer without authorization.

Malcolm

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2010ccg

11 Nov 2014
12:55:44pm

re: Horizon labels

Intersting ......my friend must have connections.....

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
11 Nov 2014
02:44:05pm

re: Horizon labels

A short rubbing alcohol bath and very carefully extending a sharply pointed tongs slowly usually gets it done, but I'll admit it is a fifty-fifty mission.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Nov 2014
02:25:30pm

re: Horizon labels

Simply lifting the paper from the stamp will fulfill the purpose of the die cuts you can see surrounding the Queen's head, they will go one way while the remainder will part company with the rest of the stamp. That is why I suggest carefully inserting the #908 sharp (lethal) tongs between the stamp and the paper. If you work the point here and there slowly the whole label can be kept intact. Carelessly tugging the one layer from the other is doomed to failure.
I suppose a sharp thin knife blade might also be able to be worked between the layers as well.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
gazza561

19 Mar 2018
04:32:00am

re: Horizon labels

Does anyone on here collect these or are able to obtain reasonable quantities, gold ones and especially the new white ones.
I am looking for some more material to expand my exhibit. Would also like some on covers if possible.

Garry Nicol
Stratford
New Zealand

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19 Mar 2018
11:15:28am

re: Horizon labels

album here ...

https://www.digitalsellz.com/Fandomate

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