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I would like to hear from folks who use the new 'back in print' Minkus Supreme Global for their WW collection. Would love to hear general impressions, but most interested in the ability to use mounts. I know the spaces are tighter than say Scott International, but are you still able to use mounts for selected stamps?
Thanks!
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Hi, I have a Minkus Global that I use -- up to early 1980s. Many of the pages accommodate mounts well. Early years are tightest but trimmed mounts still work fine.
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i have purchased Supreme Globals with stamps ...they were loaded with mounts that the collector had cut to size from strips...i have to say that some pages look better than others..if there are 15 stamps on the page it looks fine..if there are 30 it looks a little busy with mounts..but thats an opinion..do what you like..everyone else does 
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Hi Chris
I ordered the Minkus Supreme 1840-1952 from Amos Advantage last week, as I was curious how much better, if any, it would be compared to Big Blue. I received the pages yesterday, so I have not yet had time to really evaluate them.
But if you have questions about anything Supreme, I will do my best to reply.
No doubt, also, I will publish several blog posts about the merits/demerits of the Supreme.
As far as using mounts, I think they would work- but tight, very tight on some pages.
I'm obtaining a hoard of Dennison hinges, and mainly plan to use them in the Supreme.
A quick review of the pages leads me to believe they will probably not be a replacement for my collection that is presently housed in Steiner.
But for duplicate copies- yes, I think that will work.
And, I've been getting more interested in post 1940 stamp issues, so the Supreme might very well work for them. 
Jim
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HI Jim,
Thanks, that's great news to hear. It would be really great if you could post your impressions as you go along. I'm still kind of going back and forth between BigBlue and Steiner and was thinking in the back of my mind that the Minkus could be a good compromise that can fit in 2-3 binders.
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i hope you gents find what you are looking for...i got into the big blues and became frustrated when i found so many sets missing or incomplete..sometimes there would be a bunch of issues for say 1967 and then only 2 or 3 for 1968...Minkus does not do that !
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The Scott International albums that we know today (blue) are not actually the Scott Internationals. They are the International Junior albums. Those are incomplete not only missing souvenir sheets and minisheets that have major catalog numbers, but also many higher valued stamps particularly in the 1840 through 1950 time period. It gets better after 1950, but still much remains missing, including many countries.
To get complete coverage of stamps from 1840 through 1950, you need the Scott International pages (brown). The Scott International (brown) were discontinued by Scott when Scott brought out the Scott Specialized albums, which were the International brown pages separated into various countries and regions. Of course when Scott began discontinuing the Specialty series in the 1970s, that threw Scott albums into disarray. Subway Stamp Company holds the license to sell the International Brown pages. That is why you don't see Scott reissuing the brown Internationals.
This is something that I have wondered about regarding the Minkus Supreme. Phil, are you saying that the Minkus Supreme pages include the souvenir sheets and such as if a "specialty page"? Are all the countries included, or is it abridged like the Internationals?
I was of the thought that when Amos bought Minkus that the Global Supreme would simply be similar pages to the Internationals, just arranged in Minkus order instead of Scott order. The pricing is identical. That's why I never bothered to check it out.
For the countries and issues missing from the International pages, I print Steiner pages.
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Hi Michael, Nope..i can not say the Minkus Global Supreme albums include the souviner sheets..they just have a better representation of total stamps issued. When i started collecting i looked up to the Big Blues as the end all and be of for an album. We live and learn..the Scott specialized single country albums are great..but then i can only collect a few countries at a time and not the world.
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Thanks, Phil.
Back when my collection was expanding, my father started buying me an International Album (they used to come complete with looseleaf pages and two-post binder for just $19.98) for my birthday and Christmas. Later on, after college, I started to replace the Internationals by upgrading to the Specialty albums. Then Scott stopped making the Specialty albums, but I was able (in the pre-eBay days) to find several dealers who had a supply of the Specialty albums and supplements. I got all that I could, but I still needed International pages for countries not in the Specialty albums.
Then, Scott stopped making the supplements for the albums. I waited many years to see if Scott would come back out with the Specialty albums and supplements. They actually did resume production. I got what I could as they came out (late 1970s and early 1980s). Then the prices started to go up. Also, Scott, while putting out Album pages, often they did not produce a supplement. With the pricing, I stopped buying the supplements, and concentrated on the album pages, particularly the 1840 to 1950 period as that is where the blue Internationals are the weakest. Again, this was all before the internet.
In the early 2000s, I made a decision to get the International pages for the years that I did not have pages for, and I keep getting the new supplements each year now. They are still lacking in many countries and missing many other countries. Back in the StampWants days (I won't mention the successor site), someone posted about the Steiner pages. I checked it out, and have subscribed to those for many years now. I print pages when I obtain a mini/souvenir sheet where I have no Scott pages for. I print the entire year's worth of pages to keep the pages in sequence.
I would like to print out all the pages that I would need so that they are in the albums when I get the stamps, but that would mean printing thousands of pages to get caught up, and hundreds of pages each year. Right now I simply don't have the space for any more binders. My going through the stamps that have been stockpiled for the past few decades has me printing pages too. For example, I had many stamps from Guyana with no pages to put them on. That was alot of printing, and it's definitely pushing the capacity limit!
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Yes, the Steiner pages are the way to go if one wants complete stamp space coverage for the Scott major numbers in the catalogue.
A small correction- The Subway Vintage/Browns Internationals end at 1940, not 1950.
Big Blue 1840-1940 did indeed start out as a "Junior" album, and it was called the "International Junior Postage Stamp Album" during the 1940s.
This explains why watermarks and perforations varieties, and higher value stamps were not given a space. It does not explain the many inexpensive stamps that were not given a space either, ;-)
The "Junior" term was dropped, and it became the "International Postage Stamp Album", Part I.
But the legacy lives on, and Scott never substantially improved the coverage- except for the '69 editors that lopped off more than they added. ;-)
Part II covered 1940-49, then Part III 1949-55, and so on.
Part II surprisingly leaves a number of issues/stamps out also, although Part II was never considered a "Junior" album.
The Minkus Supreme Global 1840-1952, the red haired stepchild of Scott now, has never been seriously promoted by them- perhaps because it conflicts with their own blue International line.
Yes, crowded, but objectively a better choice for the WW classical collector. It, of course, still does not compete with the Steiner for complete coverage- but it almost always has better coverage than Big Blue.
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Jim,
I would love to see some scans of your new Minkus SG with a few stamps, especially if you have ones in mounts
When you have time, of course.
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I second Chris' request. I'd like to see the Minkus page layout to see if it has changed any over the years.
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And I as well..looking at 1984 pages !!!
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Here is the first page of Aden, all in mounts.
I choose 27,25, & 28 mount size respectively.
The good news is it can be done, and in my view, does look attractive.
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But one has to be careful. 
The space is limited, so one needs to cut close to the perfs on the side. And normally, I would go from a 27 to a 30 size, but that would have caused overlap (shingling) on the stamp below. So I dug out my 28 size. 
Mounts can be used, if they fit, because the paper now used by Amos is card stock in quality.
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Here is a Steiner page for comparison using 30 size mounts.
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"I second Chris' request. I'd like to see the Minkus page layout to see if it has changed any over the years."
Michael- I don't think the Minkus Supreme Global has changed in layout.
It is just that Amos has brought it back (The 1840-1952 pages), and now they can be ordered and then printed "On Demand".
The copyright is 2014 and 2010 for the two sections respectively. But I doubt if Amos has actually changed anything substantially.
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Thanks. I appreciate your posting the pictures.
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Jim,
Thanks so much, they do look very attractive and seems like the mounts are very doable with a little care. I would be mostly using hinges anyway with mounts only for those few high CV or MNH stamps.
Are those Hawid type mounts or split back? Looks like Hawid, but hard to for sure. I use clear Hawid mounts as they can be trimmed down close to the stamp (on three sides).
Thanks again for showing the scans, that help a lot 
-Chris
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"Are those Hawid type mounts or split back?"
Chris- they are "Scott mounts" with a split back. Actually made by Prinz Germany.
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So, I know from my past reading of one of my favorite blogs 'filling spaces' that the coverage of the Minkus SG is significantly better than BigBlue in terms of numbers of spaces in a particular country. But, can't remember how they stack up in terms of actual numbers of countries represented? That is does the Minkus include many of the various countries that Scott completely eliminated from the BigBlue?
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I maintain a list of the countries that Scott no longer supplies in the International Album pages. Sorry, but I don't have it notated when Scott stopped supplying pages, but most of those in the list below were never provided.
Cambodia
Cuba
Grenada Grenadines
Iran
Iraq
Korea - Democratic People's Republic
Libya
Mongolia
Nicaragua
St. Vincent Grenadines
- Bequia
- Canouan
- Mayreau
- Mustique
- Union Island
- Turkish Cyprus
- Sovereign Order of Malta
- Viet Nam
- Somalia
I asked Scott why some countries such as Nicaragua were no longer included in the Internationals. Scott's response was "The Scott International Album was never intended to be an all inclusive album."
My reply was that with the enormous pricing of the yearly supplements (now retails for $270.00 per year, but you can get it cheaper), that there should be no problem adding a few more pieces of paper to the pile.
I keep the list so that I can print Steiner pages each year for those countries when I renew my subscription to his pages.
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Regarding the Minkus pages for Aden, the Dhow set pictured is complete on the page. I am almost 100% positive that the Scott International page for the Dhow set is incomplete.
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Thanks Michael, but I was specifically referring only to the Part 1 (1840-1940) Scott Internationals, not the modern supplements.
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Jim,
Did you say you just purchased your Minkus SG a couple of weeks ago? I just looked on the Amos website and the Minkus SG Part 1 and 2 are not listed anywhere unless I'm missing them. I have an e-mail in to customer service to see what happened to them. I hope they didn’t decide to discontinue them 
!
*Just check again and they are both now listed. Not sure what happened as they were not listed earlier and I even search for them by item number. Maybe a glich in the website and/or my e-mail to CS prompted them to looking into the issue. Anyway, sorry to raise the alarm bells, they are still listed on the Amos website
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"That is does the Minkus include many of the various countries that Scott completely eliminated from the BigBlue?"
Chris- I have the index pages to Minkus Supreme (They are in very small type), but the limitation on kilobyte size for uploads precludes me from uploading a readable whole page copy here. You will just have to wait for my blog post.
But a quick perusal yields....
Benin
Cilicia
Corfu
Dalmatia
Eastern Rumelia
Eastern Silesia
Moheli
Obock
Rio de Oro
South Russia
Tobago
Most (all?) of these countries were eliminated by the '69 BB editors. What I can't tell you at the moment is how adequate the Supreme coverage is, but at least, they include these countries in the index page.
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Chris, the International pages for 1840-1940 come in four parts at a hefty price, I might add. When Scott changed the pages from two parts to four parts (they initially were just one part), I was all giddy thinking that in order to get four parts that they had edited them to be complete. I checked them out, and they were the same as the two part pages and were just as abridged as before. There were no changes other than being broken out into four parts. To me that is a total rip-off.
There are plenty of the part 1 Internationals that show up at dealers and on eBay. You usually won't have to pay anywhere near the price that Scott asks for the four parts. Be careful if you buy other parts to the International. Scott has combined several of the parts into larger year blocks than the old parts, so except for the pricing of Part 1, it makes the pricing of several of the succeeding parts palatable.
Also, you can find a full page advertisement almost weekly in Linns that contains a listing of all the parts of both the International and Global Supreme albums. If you're looking to purchase the pages, it makes a great checklist.
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"Regarding the Minkus pages for Aden, the Dhow set pictured is complete on the page. I am almost 100% positive that the Scott International page for the Dhow set is incomplete."
Michael- Here is Big Blue's page for Aden.
Neither the 1937 "Dhow" issue or the 1939-48 George VI pictorial issue are offered complete coverage.
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JKBlue Your blog is fantastic !! What knowledge is there for the picking !
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Hi All,
I would like to hear from folks who use the new 'back in print' Minkus Supreme Global for their WW collection. Would love to hear general impressions, but most interested in the ability to use mounts. I know the spaces are tighter than say Scott International, but are you still able to use mounts for selected stamps?
Thanks!
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Hi, I have a Minkus Global that I use -- up to early 1980s. Many of the pages accommodate mounts well. Early years are tightest but trimmed mounts still work fine.
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i have purchased Supreme Globals with stamps ...they were loaded with mounts that the collector had cut to size from strips...i have to say that some pages look better than others..if there are 15 stamps on the page it looks fine..if there are 30 it looks a little busy with mounts..but thats an opinion..do what you like..everyone else does
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Hi Chris
I ordered the Minkus Supreme 1840-1952 from Amos Advantage last week, as I was curious how much better, if any, it would be compared to Big Blue. I received the pages yesterday, so I have not yet had time to really evaluate them.
But if you have questions about anything Supreme, I will do my best to reply.
No doubt, also, I will publish several blog posts about the merits/demerits of the Supreme.
As far as using mounts, I think they would work- but tight, very tight on some pages.
I'm obtaining a hoard of Dennison hinges, and mainly plan to use them in the Supreme.
A quick review of the pages leads me to believe they will probably not be a replacement for my collection that is presently housed in Steiner.
But for duplicate copies- yes, I think that will work.
And, I've been getting more interested in post 1940 stamp issues, so the Supreme might very well work for them.
Jim
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HI Jim,
Thanks, that's great news to hear. It would be really great if you could post your impressions as you go along. I'm still kind of going back and forth between BigBlue and Steiner and was thinking in the back of my mind that the Minkus could be a good compromise that can fit in 2-3 binders.
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i hope you gents find what you are looking for...i got into the big blues and became frustrated when i found so many sets missing or incomplete..sometimes there would be a bunch of issues for say 1967 and then only 2 or 3 for 1968...Minkus does not do that !
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The Scott International albums that we know today (blue) are not actually the Scott Internationals. They are the International Junior albums. Those are incomplete not only missing souvenir sheets and minisheets that have major catalog numbers, but also many higher valued stamps particularly in the 1840 through 1950 time period. It gets better after 1950, but still much remains missing, including many countries.
To get complete coverage of stamps from 1840 through 1950, you need the Scott International pages (brown). The Scott International (brown) were discontinued by Scott when Scott brought out the Scott Specialized albums, which were the International brown pages separated into various countries and regions. Of course when Scott began discontinuing the Specialty series in the 1970s, that threw Scott albums into disarray. Subway Stamp Company holds the license to sell the International Brown pages. That is why you don't see Scott reissuing the brown Internationals.
This is something that I have wondered about regarding the Minkus Supreme. Phil, are you saying that the Minkus Supreme pages include the souvenir sheets and such as if a "specialty page"? Are all the countries included, or is it abridged like the Internationals?
I was of the thought that when Amos bought Minkus that the Global Supreme would simply be similar pages to the Internationals, just arranged in Minkus order instead of Scott order. The pricing is identical. That's why I never bothered to check it out.
For the countries and issues missing from the International pages, I print Steiner pages.
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Hi Michael, Nope..i can not say the Minkus Global Supreme albums include the souviner sheets..they just have a better representation of total stamps issued. When i started collecting i looked up to the Big Blues as the end all and be of for an album. We live and learn..the Scott specialized single country albums are great..but then i can only collect a few countries at a time and not the world.
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Thanks, Phil.
Back when my collection was expanding, my father started buying me an International Album (they used to come complete with looseleaf pages and two-post binder for just $19.98) for my birthday and Christmas. Later on, after college, I started to replace the Internationals by upgrading to the Specialty albums. Then Scott stopped making the Specialty albums, but I was able (in the pre-eBay days) to find several dealers who had a supply of the Specialty albums and supplements. I got all that I could, but I still needed International pages for countries not in the Specialty albums.
Then, Scott stopped making the supplements for the albums. I waited many years to see if Scott would come back out with the Specialty albums and supplements. They actually did resume production. I got what I could as they came out (late 1970s and early 1980s). Then the prices started to go up. Also, Scott, while putting out Album pages, often they did not produce a supplement. With the pricing, I stopped buying the supplements, and concentrated on the album pages, particularly the 1840 to 1950 period as that is where the blue Internationals are the weakest. Again, this was all before the internet.
In the early 2000s, I made a decision to get the International pages for the years that I did not have pages for, and I keep getting the new supplements each year now. They are still lacking in many countries and missing many other countries. Back in the StampWants days (I won't mention the successor site), someone posted about the Steiner pages. I checked it out, and have subscribed to those for many years now. I print pages when I obtain a mini/souvenir sheet where I have no Scott pages for. I print the entire year's worth of pages to keep the pages in sequence.
I would like to print out all the pages that I would need so that they are in the albums when I get the stamps, but that would mean printing thousands of pages to get caught up, and hundreds of pages each year. Right now I simply don't have the space for any more binders. My going through the stamps that have been stockpiled for the past few decades has me printing pages too. For example, I had many stamps from Guyana with no pages to put them on. That was alot of printing, and it's definitely pushing the capacity limit!
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Yes, the Steiner pages are the way to go if one wants complete stamp space coverage for the Scott major numbers in the catalogue.
A small correction- The Subway Vintage/Browns Internationals end at 1940, not 1950.
Big Blue 1840-1940 did indeed start out as a "Junior" album, and it was called the "International Junior Postage Stamp Album" during the 1940s.
This explains why watermarks and perforations varieties, and higher value stamps were not given a space. It does not explain the many inexpensive stamps that were not given a space either, ;-)
The "Junior" term was dropped, and it became the "International Postage Stamp Album", Part I.
But the legacy lives on, and Scott never substantially improved the coverage- except for the '69 editors that lopped off more than they added. ;-)
Part II covered 1940-49, then Part III 1949-55, and so on.
Part II surprisingly leaves a number of issues/stamps out also, although Part II was never considered a "Junior" album.
The Minkus Supreme Global 1840-1952, the red haired stepchild of Scott now, has never been seriously promoted by them- perhaps because it conflicts with their own blue International line.
Yes, crowded, but objectively a better choice for the WW classical collector. It, of course, still does not compete with the Steiner for complete coverage- but it almost always has better coverage than Big Blue.
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Jim,
I would love to see some scans of your new Minkus SG with a few stamps, especially if you have ones in mounts
When you have time, of course.
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I second Chris' request. I'd like to see the Minkus page layout to see if it has changed any over the years.
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And I as well..looking at 1984 pages !!!
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Here is the first page of Aden, all in mounts.
I choose 27,25, & 28 mount size respectively.
The good news is it can be done, and in my view, does look attractive.
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But one has to be careful.
The space is limited, so one needs to cut close to the perfs on the side. And normally, I would go from a 27 to a 30 size, but that would have caused overlap (shingling) on the stamp below. So I dug out my 28 size.
Mounts can be used, if they fit, because the paper now used by Amos is card stock in quality.
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Here is a Steiner page for comparison using 30 size mounts.
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"I second Chris' request. I'd like to see the Minkus page layout to see if it has changed any over the years."
Michael- I don't think the Minkus Supreme Global has changed in layout.
It is just that Amos has brought it back (The 1840-1952 pages), and now they can be ordered and then printed "On Demand".
The copyright is 2014 and 2010 for the two sections respectively. But I doubt if Amos has actually changed anything substantially.
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Thanks. I appreciate your posting the pictures.
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Jim,
Thanks so much, they do look very attractive and seems like the mounts are very doable with a little care. I would be mostly using hinges anyway with mounts only for those few high CV or MNH stamps.
Are those Hawid type mounts or split back? Looks like Hawid, but hard to for sure. I use clear Hawid mounts as they can be trimmed down close to the stamp (on three sides).
Thanks again for showing the scans, that help a lot
-Chris
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"Are those Hawid type mounts or split back?"
Chris- they are "Scott mounts" with a split back. Actually made by Prinz Germany.
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So, I know from my past reading of one of my favorite blogs 'filling spaces' that the coverage of the Minkus SG is significantly better than BigBlue in terms of numbers of spaces in a particular country. But, can't remember how they stack up in terms of actual numbers of countries represented? That is does the Minkus include many of the various countries that Scott completely eliminated from the BigBlue?
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I maintain a list of the countries that Scott no longer supplies in the International Album pages. Sorry, but I don't have it notated when Scott stopped supplying pages, but most of those in the list below were never provided.
Cambodia
Cuba
Grenada Grenadines
Iran
Iraq
Korea - Democratic People's Republic
Libya
Mongolia
Nicaragua
St. Vincent Grenadines
- Bequia
- Canouan
- Mayreau
- Mustique
- Union Island
- Turkish Cyprus
- Sovereign Order of Malta
- Viet Nam
- Somalia
I asked Scott why some countries such as Nicaragua were no longer included in the Internationals. Scott's response was "The Scott International Album was never intended to be an all inclusive album."
My reply was that with the enormous pricing of the yearly supplements (now retails for $270.00 per year, but you can get it cheaper), that there should be no problem adding a few more pieces of paper to the pile.
I keep the list so that I can print Steiner pages each year for those countries when I renew my subscription to his pages.
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Regarding the Minkus pages for Aden, the Dhow set pictured is complete on the page. I am almost 100% positive that the Scott International page for the Dhow set is incomplete.
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Thanks Michael, but I was specifically referring only to the Part 1 (1840-1940) Scott Internationals, not the modern supplements.
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Jim,
Did you say you just purchased your Minkus SG a couple of weeks ago? I just looked on the Amos website and the Minkus SG Part 1 and 2 are not listed anywhere unless I'm missing them. I have an e-mail in to customer service to see what happened to them. I hope they didn’t decide to discontinue them !
*Just check again and they are both now listed. Not sure what happened as they were not listed earlier and I even search for them by item number. Maybe a glich in the website and/or my e-mail to CS prompted them to looking into the issue. Anyway, sorry to raise the alarm bells, they are still listed on the Amos website
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"That is does the Minkus include many of the various countries that Scott completely eliminated from the BigBlue?"
Chris- I have the index pages to Minkus Supreme (They are in very small type), but the limitation on kilobyte size for uploads precludes me from uploading a readable whole page copy here. You will just have to wait for my blog post.
But a quick perusal yields....
Benin
Cilicia
Corfu
Dalmatia
Eastern Rumelia
Eastern Silesia
Moheli
Obock
Rio de Oro
South Russia
Tobago
Most (all?) of these countries were eliminated by the '69 BB editors. What I can't tell you at the moment is how adequate the Supreme coverage is, but at least, they include these countries in the index page.
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Chris, the International pages for 1840-1940 come in four parts at a hefty price, I might add. When Scott changed the pages from two parts to four parts (they initially were just one part), I was all giddy thinking that in order to get four parts that they had edited them to be complete. I checked them out, and they were the same as the two part pages and were just as abridged as before. There were no changes other than being broken out into four parts. To me that is a total rip-off.
There are plenty of the part 1 Internationals that show up at dealers and on eBay. You usually won't have to pay anywhere near the price that Scott asks for the four parts. Be careful if you buy other parts to the International. Scott has combined several of the parts into larger year blocks than the old parts, so except for the pricing of Part 1, it makes the pricing of several of the succeeding parts palatable.
Also, you can find a full page advertisement almost weekly in Linns that contains a listing of all the parts of both the International and Global Supreme albums. If you're looking to purchase the pages, it makes a great checklist.
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"Regarding the Minkus pages for Aden, the Dhow set pictured is complete on the page. I am almost 100% positive that the Scott International page for the Dhow set is incomplete."
Michael- Here is Big Blue's page for Aden.
Neither the 1937 "Dhow" issue or the 1939-48 George VI pictorial issue are offered complete coverage.
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JKBlue Your blog is fantastic !! What knowledge is there for the picking !
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