Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
"Don't deal in Stamps, so I have no idea what I'm doing. Had these for a long time and decided I'd try to sell them. If I screw up be kind. I'll do the best I can."
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10:17:54am
If all collectors were as honest, there'd be no problems in the buying and selling end of things! I applaud that forthright seller, whomsoever it might be.
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On the flip side of the coin, and perhaps what Bob was originally getting at,some responsibility must be taken by the seller for what they are doing. They can't post such a disclaimer, act unethically and then see who catches them at it, only to say, 'I told you I didn't know what I was doing."
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I agree with smauggie. With selling comes a responsibility to the buyers that what you are selling is correctly described and priced. "I don't know what I'm doing" won't cut it, and does not exonerate a seller for selling something that is not as described.
I see similar statements on many different types of items outside of philately. "I don't know anything about model railroading" let's continue the sentence with the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy."
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"I see similar statements on many different types of items outside of philately. "I don't know anything about model railroading" let's continue the sentence with the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy.""
Same with model cars. They'll post a big lot of parts and such on eBay, with that same disclaimer, "I know nothing about model cars..." But somehow manage to place the only two desirable pieces front and center in the photo full of garbage!
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07:03:06pm
Guess I'm just naïve. I often sell things I know little about, and if my price is off, I am prepared to be educated. However, it is just as likely (maybe more so) that I price the item too low - doesn't matter as I am usually just trying to clear clutter for which I have no use. I would certainly not try to flim-flam someone by pretending to be "unknowledgeable" about the item's true value. However, there are many folk out there with few or no scruples, so as Chris alludes, caveat emptor.
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Things seem to go in cycles...remember not too long ago when the chatboards were full of statements like "i inherited my Grandfathers STAMP Collection from the 1970s and !" i would love to ask them "did your Grandfather spend money on his collection or just rip stamps off envelopes ?" but of course they would have no idea..the good collections are WELL DOCUMENTED
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"i would love to ask them "did your Grandfather spend money on his collection or just rip stamps off envelopes ?" "
A model car buddy-0-mine recently gave me one of those "rip stamps off envelopes" collections. His father in law died some time back, and and his mother in law recently passed away so the family had to clean out the home. His wife wanted to just toss it all, but he thought better and presented me with THREE huge garbage bags full of stamps.
The hoard was mostly still on paper and it looked like the old guy had started this back in the 1950s. It was about 50/50 USA and Poland, with maybe 10 percent other stuff. He didn't save covers, but either ripped or tore corners roughly, sometimes cutting or damaging the stamps. He never sorted anything into a collection of any type, just kept hoarding stamps.
The stamps were in a couple of old wood boxes, shoe boxes, cigar boxes and even plastic deli containers. Just an old world guy hoarding things!
And the funny thing is that back in the day when people talked about "grandpa's valuable old stamp collection", this is what it ended up being!
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10:04:36am
" .... the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy." ...."
Precisely what I was typing !
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Guess I'm just naïve
No Bobby.. looks like your a person, that gives another person, " The benefit of the doubt "
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09:03:26am
Found this on another stamp auction site !
"Don't deal in Stamps, so I have no idea what I'm doing. Had these for a long time and decided I'd try to sell them. If I screw up be kind. I'll do the best I can."
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19 Jun 2015
10:17:54am
re: Thought this was a good disclaimer
If all collectors were as honest, there'd be no problems in the buying and selling end of things! I applaud that forthright seller, whomsoever it might be.
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On the flip side of the coin, and perhaps what Bob was originally getting at,some responsibility must be taken by the seller for what they are doing. They can't post such a disclaimer, act unethically and then see who catches them at it, only to say, 'I told you I didn't know what I was doing."
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I agree with smauggie. With selling comes a responsibility to the buyers that what you are selling is correctly described and priced. "I don't know what I'm doing" won't cut it, and does not exonerate a seller for selling something that is not as described.
I see similar statements on many different types of items outside of philately. "I don't know anything about model railroading" let's continue the sentence with the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy."
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"I see similar statements on many different types of items outside of philately. "I don't know anything about model railroading" let's continue the sentence with the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy.""
Same with model cars. They'll post a big lot of parts and such on eBay, with that same disclaimer, "I know nothing about model cars..." But somehow manage to place the only two desirable pieces front and center in the photo full of garbage!
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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
19 Jun 2015
07:03:06pm
re: Thought this was a good disclaimer
Guess I'm just naïve. I often sell things I know little about, and if my price is off, I am prepared to be educated. However, it is just as likely (maybe more so) that I price the item too low - doesn't matter as I am usually just trying to clear clutter for which I have no use. I would certainly not try to flim-flam someone by pretending to be "unknowledgeable" about the item's true value. However, there are many folk out there with few or no scruples, so as Chris alludes, caveat emptor.
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Things seem to go in cycles...remember not too long ago when the chatboards were full of statements like "i inherited my Grandfathers STAMP Collection from the 1970s and !" i would love to ask them "did your Grandfather spend money on his collection or just rip stamps off envelopes ?" but of course they would have no idea..the good collections are WELL DOCUMENTED
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"i would love to ask them "did your Grandfather spend money on his collection or just rip stamps off envelopes ?" "
A model car buddy-0-mine recently gave me one of those "rip stamps off envelopes" collections. His father in law died some time back, and and his mother in law recently passed away so the family had to clean out the home. His wife wanted to just toss it all, but he thought better and presented me with THREE huge garbage bags full of stamps.
The hoard was mostly still on paper and it looked like the old guy had started this back in the 1950s. It was about 50/50 USA and Poland, with maybe 10 percent other stuff. He didn't save covers, but either ripped or tore corners roughly, sometimes cutting or damaging the stamps. He never sorted anything into a collection of any type, just kept hoarding stamps.
The stamps were in a couple of old wood boxes, shoe boxes, cigar boxes and even plastic deli containers. Just an old world guy hoarding things!
And the funny thing is that back in the day when people talked about "grandpa's valuable old stamp collection", this is what it ended up being!
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21 Jun 2015
10:04:36am
re: Thought this was a good disclaimer
" .... the part that the seller leaves out: "but that won't stop me from overpricing the junk that I'm trying to get you to buy." ...."
Precisely what I was typing !
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Guess I'm just naïve
No Bobby.. looks like your a person, that gives another person, " The benefit of the doubt "
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