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Fresh looking imperf. Edges are razor sharp. Nice face free cancel. I love it!
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Beautiful stamp, Chris. Your year long quest was worth it!
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The cancels on the second row are probably fake. I will send them off to be expertized. Too bad Bill Weiss has retired.
The last two stamps on the fourth row are patent cancels.
The last cancel on the page is initials "NH"
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Here is another page of cancels from the show. On the first row is a "KKK" in circle that came with a cert. The next stamp is an ax head from Collinsville, Connecticut. There are some better cancels on the bottom row.
I have some covers to scan and post later.
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Sooo... I was sorting through some old covers that I bought in a huge box lot many years ago. And suddenly a name pops out at me. If that was for sale on eBay I'd think it was fake, but since I found it randomly in a large box...
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Interesting. A google search shows that President Eisenhower's surname was and still is often misspelled as "Eisenhaur". "Eisenhaur" does exist as a surname, but it doesn't seem to be very common. A White Pages search for "Eisenhaur" in New York City shows just one telephone listing.
The vague address may not be all that unusual. Shortly after my family moved from New York City to Silver City, New Mexico in 1949, my father received a letter addressed to "Bob Ingraham, New Mexico". His only claim to fame at that time was that he had won an editorial award in New York State a few months before.
Here's something interesting. After more googling, I learned that presidential-candidate Eisenhower's headquarters was in Denver in 1952. Any letter addressed to him in Denver certainly would have reached him, even with the name misspelled.
The Republican National Convention that year was in Chicago. My wife, Susan, has been very involved in her family's genealogy in recent years. In her collection is this photograph of Eisenhower, taken in Hastings, Nebraska, during his 1952 whistle-stop campaign. The photograph was hanging in her grandparent's rec room in Hastings. Her grandfather, Lloyd Hansen, is shown in the photograph.
Susan would be interested in learning who the other men in the photograph are. Tom: If you'd like a copy of the photograph without the annotation, let me know. Looks like your cover is the real deal.
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Two weeks before the election in'52 ?
As far as I can recall Ike was living in New York where he held an office at Columbia University.
So I'd guess either another DD Eisenhower or some kind of a prank. I am thinking that I read something about an envelope like this either to Ike or to MacArthur in a stamp newspaper in the 1970s.
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Picked up a couple of older albums at a local household auction last weekend. A Jarret Canada to 1970 fairly complete for later years all in clear mounts but stamps sliding out of the side of them.
The other album is for USA and is a Minkus populated with used mainly in the 1960-70 range, again in mounts that seem to not hold the stamps well. The frontspiece shows a price of $1.49, which seems very cheap unless it/s meant to be $149.
Total cost for the two C$70, also a number of coin wallets(8) and stockpages (5) full of used USA included.
Will have to incorporate into my other albums and will probably transfer all to Steiner pages eventually.
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Here is a nice patriotic cover of the Carls-Rite Hotel in Toronto that I bought last weekend at an antique show here. Inside there is a menu showing prices at the time. Sure wish prices were like that today.
Chimo
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Bujutsu,
I love it!
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Vinnie,
Those are some great cancels - find those at the APS show?
Very nice.....might make me want to begin a new collecting area!
Thanks for the show-N-tell!
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My information came from this Wikipedia article:
"When asked about his campaign itinerary during a news conference at campaign headquarters at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver, Colorado, Eisenhower said the details had not been worked out, but that his headquarters were likely to remain in Denver at least until he departed to New York City in late August to address the national convention of the American Legion."
I thought it was possible that the person who sent the letter might not have been aware that the headquarters were no longer in Denver, if indeed they weren't still there. In any even, your knowledge of politics is certainly more detailed than mine. You're a lot older! Well, not a lot older...
At the same time, I just can't see this being a bogus cover. Who would bother? If it is bogus, why would the creator try to make it appear more valuable by adding "Adlai Stevenson" or "Harry Truman" as the sender, or at least some politician from West Virginia, such as Representative Robert Byrd (who, I have to admit, I'd never heard of until I just now googled him!).
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In 1988 I resumed my stamp collecting after a long hiatus. Shortly thereafter the Chinese stamp market took off. With most of it's stamps often selling for cat or multiples above, I pretty much ignored China. I would guess that 95% of all my China are stamps that I got when I was a kid. Every once in awhile I will look at the auction listings for China hoping to get some of the larger size stamps from pre 1930's. Today I was rather stunned to win the first larger format high values of China Scott #'s 22-24.
They cat for $720.00 but for some reason I picked them up for just over 10% of cat. It seems no one was paying attention to the lot. There were several other Chinese lots in the auction of early 19th century that went for around 1/2 cat. These three, 1st page stamps, were at the top of my list of stamps wanted for China and I doubt many people have them. For the issue the 12 and 24 cent are very nicely centered.
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Hey Mitch, Congrats on the purchase. There's no better feeling than picking up something You've been wanting a price you KNOW you can live with without heartburn later. My only thought is, "I can't believe they let it go for that." With shill bidders, minimum reserves etc etc it's been my experience that truly hot material never goes for such a low % of cat. Great score!
-Ernie
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Ernie, Thanks! I would think that these would be highly desirable for any collector of China. I was surprised that I won them but not as much as you might think. I usually get really great deals every week. I have not seen much evidence of shilling at the auction house I use and there are seldom reserves on the better lots. I also won an Italian lot of 1930's stamps this past week for $30 that cataloged for over $800. Did not need any of them but Italy is pretty hot and they sell well.
A couple of the most ridiculous wins I've had are the two stamps below. The 1869 24 cent Pictoral was described as a forgery. However there are no known forgeries of the set and I could tell from the scan that it was not a shaved proof. The stamp is unused, no gum, and free from fault, I got it for under $60.00. It is certainly genuine!
The second stamp is the top key for Venezuela. It came in a lot of other values of the 1880 set. It was described as including some forgeries. Well, the only known forgery of these is the 5 center and there was one of them included in the lot. I've had the 25B checked out by an expert and he concluded it was genuine. There are only 34 known copies of the stamp! I paid $66.00 for the lot and sold several of the others in the lot for over what I paid.
I seldom buy stamps that I know I might not get my money back from. If it were not for this site I would not be adding much to my collection.
My best trading buddy turned me on to the auction site and had me promise not to tell anyone else about it. He is a highly placed Senior Federal Judge whose trust I would not betray.
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Ok.....so you've got secret auction sites AND federal judges in your hip pocket??? Now I'm really jealous! Who are you, Michael Corleone? Haha. Keep bidding and winning I've enjoyed looking at your collection online.
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As far as Pictorals go..............................
My favorite new acquisition is the unused 122 in the top row. It has been my favorite stamp since I was a kid. It has some of the nicest centering I have seen on one. Although I did not get it super cheap, 12.7% wasn't bad. I got it about a month ago to replace the used copy, 2nd at top that I have had for 25 years or so. The first stamp in bottom row is a proof I have had for a long time and the second is a proof that was perforated and gummed to appear as a stamp. For $25 I could not help but buy it. A few months ago I saw one
just like it on Ebay sell for $150. Every time some one tries to fake a proof into a stamp there is one less proof in the world. I think proofs have long been under cataloged and every time this is done makes them more so.
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This one came through this morning. I'm surprised I hadn't been aware of its existence over the past dozen years since I've been collecting WW2 commemorative material - it was referenced in an interesting Gibbons Stamp Monthly feature this month. The unusual thing is that designer Restall contributed only a single stamp to the 1965 Battle of Britain set (the others were by the husband-and-wife team of David Gentleman and Rosalind Dease). The reason for Restall's sole stamp is given as late-applied pressure from the ground forces (anti-aircraft, spotters, etc.) to acknowledge their contribution. I'd like to see the evidence surrounding this - presumably Restall had a design up and ready while Gentleman and Dease did not. It accounts for the 'odd one out' nature of the 1965 set.
Three years later someone had the good idea to release Restall's other designs for the 50th anniversary of the RAF, which completes the 'set'. I like both sets of designs, perhaps preferring Gentleman-Dease (which caused bother on issue since certain stuffy persons objected to the swastika shown on one of them!).
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Oh dear, I bought and read Simon Garfield four years ago - what a very strange and unwarrantably rich chap, I thought! I didn't remember him mentioning the BoB set at all... just shows how much I take in.
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"...the unused 122 in the top row..."
Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but both appear to be used to me. The left one has part of a circular cancel on its upper right corner, and the right one is cancelled across its bottom.
Still, wish I had one.
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£2 SPECIMEN Ridley King
The stamp on the left is my recent acquisition, it is the rare 1964 pre-decimal £2 Specimen (on cream paper, dark toning) of Admiral Ridley King with the words "SPECIMEN" just below central position, it is seldom seen and rare, compared to the scarce version on the right with "SPECIMEN" on bottom right (on white paper). Both are superb mint unhinged.
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Mitch, I LOVE them!
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Nothing too exciting but I recently got this fun little set of 4 X 4 stamps, some Airmail ones (39C, 40C and 44C)and one little set commemorating JFK (5C):
Then I also got this interesting First Day of Issue for postal workers which included a nice long string of stamps at the top of the envelope:
Lastly I also got some other interesting ones which I have posted in other discussion areas here on SOR as I had more questions about them. Thanks, and hope you all have great weekend,
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Chris, the upper left one is definitely unused. However it is a little dirty in places but I am afraid of cleaning it. The one at right is the used one I have had nearly 30 years.
One of the best things going for it is the light face free cancel at bottom.
Zipper, I love them to. Like I said it have always been my favorite stamp and I know I am not alone in this feeling. The two stamps are the most I have ever spent on single stamps. I was a bit surprised when I asked my wife if I could spend $700 on the unused one.
She told me to go for it, even though we are both barely existing on SS.
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Mitch, I learned a valuable lesson from a "society" friend of mine. Never ask if you can buy something. Buy it, and say Look what I bought. It's worked for her for 69 years.
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Olympic stamps of that series exist in two different perforations. I think one is significantly less common than the other. Check your catalog.
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Nearly gave up on the auction this week but I just won this Berlin sheet. With the help of Frank filling in most of the last modern issues it just leaves me with one key stamp to complete Berlin.
At 87.77, 17.5% of catalog it the cheapest I've seen one go for after many years of searching.
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Just got this.... Gotta love them Columbians.. I've been looking at what similar multiples of higher values go for... They go up very quickly! The Columbians and Trans-Missippis are some of my all time favorites.
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Fresh looking imperf. Edges are razor sharp. Nice face free cancel. I love it!
-Ernie
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Beautiful stamp, Chris. Your year long quest was worth it!
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The cancels on the second row are probably fake. I will send them off to be expertized. Too bad Bill Weiss has retired.
The last two stamps on the fourth row are patent cancels.
The last cancel on the page is initials "NH"
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Here is another page of cancels from the show. On the first row is a "KKK" in circle that came with a cert. The next stamp is an ax head from Collinsville, Connecticut. There are some better cancels on the bottom row.
I have some covers to scan and post later.
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Sooo... I was sorting through some old covers that I bought in a huge box lot many years ago. And suddenly a name pops out at me. If that was for sale on eBay I'd think it was fake, but since I found it randomly in a large box...
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Interesting. A google search shows that President Eisenhower's surname was and still is often misspelled as "Eisenhaur". "Eisenhaur" does exist as a surname, but it doesn't seem to be very common. A White Pages search for "Eisenhaur" in New York City shows just one telephone listing.
The vague address may not be all that unusual. Shortly after my family moved from New York City to Silver City, New Mexico in 1949, my father received a letter addressed to "Bob Ingraham, New Mexico". His only claim to fame at that time was that he had won an editorial award in New York State a few months before.
Here's something interesting. After more googling, I learned that presidential-candidate Eisenhower's headquarters was in Denver in 1952. Any letter addressed to him in Denver certainly would have reached him, even with the name misspelled.
The Republican National Convention that year was in Chicago. My wife, Susan, has been very involved in her family's genealogy in recent years. In her collection is this photograph of Eisenhower, taken in Hastings, Nebraska, during his 1952 whistle-stop campaign. The photograph was hanging in her grandparent's rec room in Hastings. Her grandfather, Lloyd Hansen, is shown in the photograph.
Susan would be interested in learning who the other men in the photograph are. Tom: If you'd like a copy of the photograph without the annotation, let me know. Looks like your cover is the real deal.
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Two weeks before the election in'52 ?
As far as I can recall Ike was living in New York where he held an office at Columbia University.
So I'd guess either another DD Eisenhower or some kind of a prank. I am thinking that I read something about an envelope like this either to Ike or to MacArthur in a stamp newspaper in the 1970s.
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Picked up a couple of older albums at a local household auction last weekend. A Jarret Canada to 1970 fairly complete for later years all in clear mounts but stamps sliding out of the side of them.
The other album is for USA and is a Minkus populated with used mainly in the 1960-70 range, again in mounts that seem to not hold the stamps well. The frontspiece shows a price of $1.49, which seems very cheap unless it/s meant to be $149.
Total cost for the two C$70, also a number of coin wallets(8) and stockpages (5) full of used USA included.
Will have to incorporate into my other albums and will probably transfer all to Steiner pages eventually.
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Hi All
Here is a nice patriotic cover of the Carls-Rite Hotel in Toronto that I bought last weekend at an antique show here. Inside there is a menu showing prices at the time. Sure wish prices were like that today.
Chimo
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Bujutsu,
I love it!
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Vinnie,
Those are some great cancels - find those at the APS show?
Very nice.....might make me want to begin a new collecting area!
Thanks for the show-N-tell!
Randy
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@cdj1122
My information came from this Wikipedia article:
"When asked about his campaign itinerary during a news conference at campaign headquarters at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver, Colorado, Eisenhower said the details had not been worked out, but that his headquarters were likely to remain in Denver at least until he departed to New York City in late August to address the national convention of the American Legion."
I thought it was possible that the person who sent the letter might not have been aware that the headquarters were no longer in Denver, if indeed they weren't still there. In any even, your knowledge of politics is certainly more detailed than mine. You're a lot older! Well, not a lot older...
At the same time, I just can't see this being a bogus cover. Who would bother? If it is bogus, why would the creator try to make it appear more valuable by adding "Adlai Stevenson" or "Harry Truman" as the sender, or at least some politician from West Virginia, such as Representative Robert Byrd (who, I have to admit, I'd never heard of until I just now googled him!).
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In 1988 I resumed my stamp collecting after a long hiatus. Shortly thereafter the Chinese stamp market took off. With most of it's stamps often selling for cat or multiples above, I pretty much ignored China. I would guess that 95% of all my China are stamps that I got when I was a kid. Every once in awhile I will look at the auction listings for China hoping to get some of the larger size stamps from pre 1930's. Today I was rather stunned to win the first larger format high values of China Scott #'s 22-24.
They cat for $720.00 but for some reason I picked them up for just over 10% of cat. It seems no one was paying attention to the lot. There were several other Chinese lots in the auction of early 19th century that went for around 1/2 cat. These three, 1st page stamps, were at the top of my list of stamps wanted for China and I doubt many people have them. For the issue the 12 and 24 cent are very nicely centered.
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Hey Mitch, Congrats on the purchase. There's no better feeling than picking up something You've been wanting a price you KNOW you can live with without heartburn later. My only thought is, "I can't believe they let it go for that." With shill bidders, minimum reserves etc etc it's been my experience that truly hot material never goes for such a low % of cat. Great score!
-Ernie
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Ernie, Thanks! I would think that these would be highly desirable for any collector of China. I was surprised that I won them but not as much as you might think. I usually get really great deals every week. I have not seen much evidence of shilling at the auction house I use and there are seldom reserves on the better lots. I also won an Italian lot of 1930's stamps this past week for $30 that cataloged for over $800. Did not need any of them but Italy is pretty hot and they sell well.
A couple of the most ridiculous wins I've had are the two stamps below. The 1869 24 cent Pictoral was described as a forgery. However there are no known forgeries of the set and I could tell from the scan that it was not a shaved proof. The stamp is unused, no gum, and free from fault, I got it for under $60.00. It is certainly genuine!
The second stamp is the top key for Venezuela. It came in a lot of other values of the 1880 set. It was described as including some forgeries. Well, the only known forgery of these is the 5 center and there was one of them included in the lot. I've had the 25B checked out by an expert and he concluded it was genuine. There are only 34 known copies of the stamp! I paid $66.00 for the lot and sold several of the others in the lot for over what I paid.
I seldom buy stamps that I know I might not get my money back from. If it were not for this site I would not be adding much to my collection.
My best trading buddy turned me on to the auction site and had me promise not to tell anyone else about it. He is a highly placed Senior Federal Judge whose trust I would not betray.
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Ok.....so you've got secret auction sites AND federal judges in your hip pocket??? Now I'm really jealous! Who are you, Michael Corleone? Haha. Keep bidding and winning I've enjoyed looking at your collection online.
Ernie
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As far as Pictorals go..............................
My favorite new acquisition is the unused 122 in the top row. It has been my favorite stamp since I was a kid. It has some of the nicest centering I have seen on one. Although I did not get it super cheap, 12.7% wasn't bad. I got it about a month ago to replace the used copy, 2nd at top that I have had for 25 years or so. The first stamp in bottom row is a proof I have had for a long time and the second is a proof that was perforated and gummed to appear as a stamp. For $25 I could not help but buy it. A few months ago I saw one
just like it on Ebay sell for $150. Every time some one tries to fake a proof into a stamp there is one less proof in the world. I think proofs have long been under cataloged and every time this is done makes them more so.
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This one came through this morning. I'm surprised I hadn't been aware of its existence over the past dozen years since I've been collecting WW2 commemorative material - it was referenced in an interesting Gibbons Stamp Monthly feature this month. The unusual thing is that designer Restall contributed only a single stamp to the 1965 Battle of Britain set (the others were by the husband-and-wife team of David Gentleman and Rosalind Dease). The reason for Restall's sole stamp is given as late-applied pressure from the ground forces (anti-aircraft, spotters, etc.) to acknowledge their contribution. I'd like to see the evidence surrounding this - presumably Restall had a design up and ready while Gentleman and Dease did not. It accounts for the 'odd one out' nature of the 1965 set.
Three years later someone had the good idea to release Restall's other designs for the 50th anniversary of the RAF, which completes the 'set'. I like both sets of designs, perhaps preferring Gentleman-Dease (which caused bother on issue since certain stuffy persons objected to the swastika shown on one of them!).
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Oh dear, I bought and read Simon Garfield four years ago - what a very strange and unwarrantably rich chap, I thought! I didn't remember him mentioning the BoB set at all... just shows how much I take in.
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"...the unused 122 in the top row..."
Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but both appear to be used to me. The left one has part of a circular cancel on its upper right corner, and the right one is cancelled across its bottom.
Still, wish I had one.
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£2 SPECIMEN Ridley King
The stamp on the left is my recent acquisition, it is the rare 1964 pre-decimal £2 Specimen (on cream paper, dark toning) of Admiral Ridley King with the words "SPECIMEN" just below central position, it is seldom seen and rare, compared to the scarce version on the right with "SPECIMEN" on bottom right (on white paper). Both are superb mint unhinged.
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Mitch, I LOVE them!
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Nothing too exciting but I recently got this fun little set of 4 X 4 stamps, some Airmail ones (39C, 40C and 44C)and one little set commemorating JFK (5C):
Then I also got this interesting First Day of Issue for postal workers which included a nice long string of stamps at the top of the envelope:
Lastly I also got some other interesting ones which I have posted in other discussion areas here on SOR as I had more questions about them. Thanks, and hope you all have great weekend,
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Chris, the upper left one is definitely unused. However it is a little dirty in places but I am afraid of cleaning it. The one at right is the used one I have had nearly 30 years.
One of the best things going for it is the light face free cancel at bottom.
Zipper, I love them to. Like I said it have always been my favorite stamp and I know I am not alone in this feeling. The two stamps are the most I have ever spent on single stamps. I was a bit surprised when I asked my wife if I could spend $700 on the unused one.
She told me to go for it, even though we are both barely existing on SS.
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Mitch, I learned a valuable lesson from a "society" friend of mine. Never ask if you can buy something. Buy it, and say Look what I bought. It's worked for her for 69 years.
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Olympic stamps of that series exist in two different perforations. I think one is significantly less common than the other. Check your catalog.
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Nearly gave up on the auction this week but I just won this Berlin sheet. With the help of Frank filling in most of the last modern issues it just leaves me with one key stamp to complete Berlin.
At 87.77, 17.5% of catalog it the cheapest I've seen one go for after many years of searching.
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Just got this.... Gotta love them Columbians.. I've been looking at what similar multiples of higher values go for... They go up very quickly! The Columbians and Trans-Missippis are some of my all time favorites.
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