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Here are a few fancy cancels.
The top postal card is a shield from Maynard, Iowa. The second cover is a Philadelphia Heart.
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The first cover is from Farmingham, MI with a letter "A" cancel.
The second cover comes from Lawrence, MA with a negative "M" cancel. The postmaster from 8/1/61 until 8/2/86 was George S. Merrill, so assume it is his initial.
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The next cover is from Big Rapids, MI with a negative "AC" cancel I could not find the find the postmaster's name from the period so I'm not sure of their meaning. It is not a common cancel but I do have several more copies off cover.
The postal card is a UX3 with a blue hart cancel from Hart, MI.
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Here is a very nice strike of a Chicago Blue Patent cancel on an UX5. The pin marks in the center of the cancel that were used to keep stamps from being reused shows up nice on this card and shows the pins puncturing the card.
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This cover caught my eye because of a few things. It is from a fire insurance company and that is one of my interests. It has an RPO cancel another interest and I like the bold letter "E" cancel indicating it was on an east bound train.
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Very nice! Thanks for posting them along with the information about each one.
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Someone has been busy. Great cancels!
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Vince,
Did you get these at the APS show?
Really nice group!
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Hi Randy,
I did pick these up at StampShow. I still have a pile to scan and add to my collection. There are some folded letter sheets with nice postmarks, some auxiliary markings and some Large Boston Negative cancels. The Boston cancels are one of my interests. I am working on listing earliest and latest dates of use for the individual cancels. I will post some of the Large Boston Negative cancels tomorrow to show exactly what I'm talking about.
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Very interesting and even more interesting with all of the extra research you've done. Thanks for sharing them with us.
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Here are more covers from my StampShow trip.
Here is Cross Roads cancel from New Orleans. New Orleans had quite a few different geometrics during the 1880's, this is less fancy than other cancels from there. Another coleccting area of mine.
This is a Boston Patent cancel.
Barre, MA had a number of different carved cancels and this is an letter"M" in ellipse. I have several different Barre cancels in my collection.
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These covers have an "P" cancel. The first is from Princeton, IL. There is a variety "P" cancels from Princeton. The second cover is from Pittsford, VT.
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Here are two more.
The first is a Chicago Blue Cross Roads cancel, there are numerious blue cancels from Chicago. Paul Berg wrote a book on these type of cancels but there are always new dicoveries to be made. There was an excellent exhibit on these at StampShow titled "Chicago House Of Blues" shown by Roger Rhoads. I hope to get him to put it on The US Cancellation Club web site when I finally get it up and running.
The second cover is a large "X" cancel from Bridgeport, CT.
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Very nice covers!
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Here are few covers that fit into my "something different" collections. The first cover has an label put on by the post office. I have seen similar markings but never a label. This fits into my auxiliary markings collection. It is a label placed by the Austin post office.'POSTAGE STAMP (s) separated during handling USPS Austin, TX 78210"
The second cover shows some artwork added to the name. I can make out the first name as MR. Jonathan and paid on the right side. It has an Indian Orchard, MA straight line postmark.
The third cover fits into my paid markings collection. This cover caught my eye because of the outline of the cds and paid. It must be an early use because the cancelers are not filled in with ink yet.
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Hey I like that cover with the stamp damaged in transit and that the post office took responsibility for it. In my experience, the post office has acted like there never was a stamp and returned them to sender for more postage!
My favorite was my mortgage payment many years ago. I get this one back "return to sender" for postage, even though there was the entire back of a stamp and the outline of a missing stamp in the cancellation. This one got all the way to the post office where the mortgage company was located, and then returned to me! Late payment something like $50, and I got the company to forgive it by sending in the envelope. And that was worth more than retaining the cover for my collection.
Recently my wife had surgery and her office sent flowers. She sent a thank you note and that one had the stamp ripped off by the sorting equipment and landed back in our mail box for postage. Again it was obvious that we did indeed pay postage, and I wanted to drive it up to the post office and shove it.. well you know... but instead it was easier for my wife to address a fresh envelope and remail it.
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BenFranklin,
You will like this cover, it came today. A little background first. I have been trying to get my mailman to stop using his pen on stamps that are already canceled. He knows I collect stamps. A couple weeks ago he really trashed stamps and souvenir sheets, already canceled that were on several packages I received. When I asked him about this he said he didn't want me selling the stamps. This cover was sent two weeks ago and returned to sender as undeliverable and the stamps were not canceled. The dealer cut out the mailing label and attached it to another envelope and it was delivered today. my regular mailman is off this week too.
Several years ago I complained about my mail box being stuffed with many of the same pieces of junk mail. I had my door stuffed with bundles of junk mail the next day. I should have learned my lesson then. You just don't want to piss off the mailman. Well at least I have a new collecting category, I'll call it "what a %#@&!"
Vince
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at least I don't have that problem of a mailman with a wild Sharpie! When I went to look at the recent stacks for the cover my wife had mailed, I took notice of just how many of my incoming philatelic mail were completely uncanceled. Probably 50% of them. I don't know if the USPS is that inefficient at cancelling the mail overall, or if they noticed these were bunches of older stamps and didn't cancel them to please collectors. Frankly I'd rather they had clean cancels on them since I don't want older mint stamps without gum, nor am I going to the trouble to glue them all on the next envelope!
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Vince,
I would have saved a handful of the 'damaged' stuff, taken them to the P.O. and reported him!
And if it did no good the first time, I'd go back and raise a little cain.
And if it happened AGAIN, I'd go to a higher-up as necessary.
He may work for a government entity, but he HIMSELF is defacing government AND private property.
....there's no excuse for that....
Randy
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Here are two Chicago Blue Cancels on postal cards. The first is an Blue anchor. I scanned the cancel and rotated it to better see the cancel. I also scaned some cancels from Berg's book "Chicago Blue Postal Markings 1870-1877".
The next card has an Blue Shield.
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"I have been trying to get my mailman to stop using his pen on stamps that are already canceled. He knows I collect stamps. A couple weeks ago he really trashed stamps and souvenir sheets, already canceled that were on several packages I received. When I asked him about this he said he didn't want me selling the stamps."
The guy is a richard
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Here are two new covers that arrived today. The first is an folded letter sheet (FLS) with a Scott #10 plated to plate 5. I don't try to plate this issue but if it comes plated I save that information. The CDS is what caught my eye from New Bedford, MA.
The second cover is a square of blue triangles from Chicago.
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"I would have saved a handful of the 'damaged' stuff, taken them to the P.O. and reported him!
And if it did no good the first time, I'd go back and raise a little cain.
And if it happened AGAIN, I'd go to a higher-up as necessary."
And you'd be exactly wrong.
It is a bureaucracy.
Verbal complaints to your carrier do not count.
Verbal complaints to your local postmaster do not count.
They move the air, but they do not count.
It is a bureaucracy.
File your written complaints at the national level. Written, national, only.
Keep the letter short & to the point.
Includes scans of your carrier-damaged mail.
As the complaints filter down, they will be counted.
Again, and again.
1) usps consumer advocate
2) usps inspector general
If they are not counted, they do not exist.
If they are counted, each person in the chain gets to worry about being asked about the complaint, again, by the person who passed it down to them.
Don't forget to cc your congressman & senator.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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Great covers Vinman. How incredibly brilliant the color of the #10 is and how sharp and consice the handwriting and cancel is. Today the Ms would be from Mississippi though, wouldn't it? Thanks for sharing such great covers.
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Fantastic covers, and, the cancellations are so clear and crisp too.
Chimo
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Some more covers.
I picked up this cover because of the nice CDS and #5
A shield from Worcester, MA.
A small letter "A" in box.
Blue "M" from mount Holly, NJ
Boston Negative"4" on a cover to Rome,Italy.
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New additions to my cancel collection.
The first card has a Chicago Blue cancel. It is called an feather in Paul Berg's book on Chicago Blue cancels.
These next two cards have New York numerals in circles, a numer 3 and 6. They were used between 1873-to 1875. There is a variety of styles but I am not sure what is the highest number. These two cards were mailed on the same day but at different times. Different clerks used different cancels.
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That is a gorgeous Gettysburgh cancel, further up the thread vinman.
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I have been posting some of my new covers on another site and thought I would post some here. Everyone likes pictures!
Here are a few fancy cancels.
The top postal card is a shield from Maynard, Iowa. The second cover is a Philadelphia Heart.
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More covers and cards.
The first cover is from Farmingham, MI with a letter "A" cancel.
The second cover comes from Lawrence, MA with a negative "M" cancel. The postmaster from 8/1/61 until 8/2/86 was George S. Merrill, so assume it is his initial.
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The next cover is from Big Rapids, MI with a negative "AC" cancel I could not find the find the postmaster's name from the period so I'm not sure of their meaning. It is not a common cancel but I do have several more copies off cover.
The postal card is a UX3 with a blue hart cancel from Hart, MI.
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Here is a very nice strike of a Chicago Blue Patent cancel on an UX5. The pin marks in the center of the cancel that were used to keep stamps from being reused shows up nice on this card and shows the pins puncturing the card.
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This cover caught my eye because of a few things. It is from a fire insurance company and that is one of my interests. It has an RPO cancel another interest and I like the bold letter "E" cancel indicating it was on an east bound train.
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Very nice! Thanks for posting them along with the information about each one.
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Someone has been busy. Great cancels!
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Vince,
Did you get these at the APS show?
Really nice group!
Randy
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Hi Randy,
I did pick these up at StampShow. I still have a pile to scan and add to my collection. There are some folded letter sheets with nice postmarks, some auxiliary markings and some Large Boston Negative cancels. The Boston cancels are one of my interests. I am working on listing earliest and latest dates of use for the individual cancels. I will post some of the Large Boston Negative cancels tomorrow to show exactly what I'm talking about.
Vince
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Very interesting and even more interesting with all of the extra research you've done. Thanks for sharing them with us.
Mike
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Here are more covers from my StampShow trip.
Here is Cross Roads cancel from New Orleans. New Orleans had quite a few different geometrics during the 1880's, this is less fancy than other cancels from there. Another coleccting area of mine.
This is a Boston Patent cancel.
Barre, MA had a number of different carved cancels and this is an letter"M" in ellipse. I have several different Barre cancels in my collection.
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These covers have an "P" cancel. The first is from Princeton, IL. There is a variety "P" cancels from Princeton. The second cover is from Pittsford, VT.
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Here are two more.
The first is a Chicago Blue Cross Roads cancel, there are numerious blue cancels from Chicago. Paul Berg wrote a book on these type of cancels but there are always new dicoveries to be made. There was an excellent exhibit on these at StampShow titled "Chicago House Of Blues" shown by Roger Rhoads. I hope to get him to put it on The US Cancellation Club web site when I finally get it up and running.
The second cover is a large "X" cancel from Bridgeport, CT.
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Here are few covers that fit into my "something different" collections. The first cover has an label put on by the post office. I have seen similar markings but never a label. This fits into my auxiliary markings collection. It is a label placed by the Austin post office.'POSTAGE STAMP (s) separated during handling USPS Austin, TX 78210"
The second cover shows some artwork added to the name. I can make out the first name as MR. Jonathan and paid on the right side. It has an Indian Orchard, MA straight line postmark.
The third cover fits into my paid markings collection. This cover caught my eye because of the outline of the cds and paid. It must be an early use because the cancelers are not filled in with ink yet.
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Hey I like that cover with the stamp damaged in transit and that the post office took responsibility for it. In my experience, the post office has acted like there never was a stamp and returned them to sender for more postage!
My favorite was my mortgage payment many years ago. I get this one back "return to sender" for postage, even though there was the entire back of a stamp and the outline of a missing stamp in the cancellation. This one got all the way to the post office where the mortgage company was located, and then returned to me! Late payment something like $50, and I got the company to forgive it by sending in the envelope. And that was worth more than retaining the cover for my collection.
Recently my wife had surgery and her office sent flowers. She sent a thank you note and that one had the stamp ripped off by the sorting equipment and landed back in our mail box for postage. Again it was obvious that we did indeed pay postage, and I wanted to drive it up to the post office and shove it.. well you know... but instead it was easier for my wife to address a fresh envelope and remail it.
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BenFranklin,
You will like this cover, it came today. A little background first. I have been trying to get my mailman to stop using his pen on stamps that are already canceled. He knows I collect stamps. A couple weeks ago he really trashed stamps and souvenir sheets, already canceled that were on several packages I received. When I asked him about this he said he didn't want me selling the stamps. This cover was sent two weeks ago and returned to sender as undeliverable and the stamps were not canceled. The dealer cut out the mailing label and attached it to another envelope and it was delivered today. my regular mailman is off this week too.
Several years ago I complained about my mail box being stuffed with many of the same pieces of junk mail. I had my door stuffed with bundles of junk mail the next day. I should have learned my lesson then. You just don't want to piss off the mailman. Well at least I have a new collecting category, I'll call it "what a %#@&!"
Vince
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at least I don't have that problem of a mailman with a wild Sharpie! When I went to look at the recent stacks for the cover my wife had mailed, I took notice of just how many of my incoming philatelic mail were completely uncanceled. Probably 50% of them. I don't know if the USPS is that inefficient at cancelling the mail overall, or if they noticed these were bunches of older stamps and didn't cancel them to please collectors. Frankly I'd rather they had clean cancels on them since I don't want older mint stamps without gum, nor am I going to the trouble to glue them all on the next envelope!
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Vince,
I would have saved a handful of the 'damaged' stuff, taken them to the P.O. and reported him!
And if it did no good the first time, I'd go back and raise a little cain.
And if it happened AGAIN, I'd go to a higher-up as necessary.
He may work for a government entity, but he HIMSELF is defacing government AND private property.
....there's no excuse for that....
Randy
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Here are two Chicago Blue Cancels on postal cards. The first is an Blue anchor. I scanned the cancel and rotated it to better see the cancel. I also scaned some cancels from Berg's book "Chicago Blue Postal Markings 1870-1877".
The next card has an Blue Shield.
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"I have been trying to get my mailman to stop using his pen on stamps that are already canceled. He knows I collect stamps. A couple weeks ago he really trashed stamps and souvenir sheets, already canceled that were on several packages I received. When I asked him about this he said he didn't want me selling the stamps."
The guy is a richard
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Here are two new covers that arrived today. The first is an folded letter sheet (FLS) with a Scott #10 plated to plate 5. I don't try to plate this issue but if it comes plated I save that information. The CDS is what caught my eye from New Bedford, MA.
The second cover is a square of blue triangles from Chicago.
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"I would have saved a handful of the 'damaged' stuff, taken them to the P.O. and reported him!
And if it did no good the first time, I'd go back and raise a little cain.
And if it happened AGAIN, I'd go to a higher-up as necessary."
And you'd be exactly wrong.
It is a bureaucracy.
Verbal complaints to your carrier do not count.
Verbal complaints to your local postmaster do not count.
They move the air, but they do not count.
It is a bureaucracy.
File your written complaints at the national level. Written, national, only.
Keep the letter short & to the point.
Includes scans of your carrier-damaged mail.
As the complaints filter down, they will be counted.
Again, and again.
1) usps consumer advocate
2) usps inspector general
If they are not counted, they do not exist.
If they are counted, each person in the chain gets to worry about being asked about the complaint, again, by the person who passed it down to them.
Don't forget to cc your congressman & senator.
Cheers,
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Great covers Vinman. How incredibly brilliant the color of the #10 is and how sharp and consice the handwriting and cancel is. Today the Ms would be from Mississippi though, wouldn't it? Thanks for sharing such great covers.
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Fantastic covers, and, the cancellations are so clear and crisp too.
Chimo
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Some more covers.
I picked up this cover because of the nice CDS and #5
A shield from Worcester, MA.
A small letter "A" in box.
Blue "M" from mount Holly, NJ
Boston Negative"4" on a cover to Rome,Italy.
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New additions to my cancel collection.
The first card has a Chicago Blue cancel. It is called an feather in Paul Berg's book on Chicago Blue cancels.
These next two cards have New York numerals in circles, a numer 3 and 6. They were used between 1873-to 1875. There is a variety of styles but I am not sure what is the highest number. These two cards were mailed on the same day but at different times. Different clerks used different cancels.
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That is a gorgeous Gettysburgh cancel, further up the thread vinman.
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