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15 Jan 2016
01:56:17pm
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No I did not do this,

This stamp I just came across today in my collection
which has been stored away for the past 22 years, nice value since it was
last cataloged in 1992. real bummere is my nh stamps, some have stuck.

Well thought I would share..

Happy Stamp-in all.
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15 Jan 2016
02:20:04pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

It's a military telegraph stamp. These were perforated through the middle:


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15 Jan 2016
04:41:17pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

Is the first stamp from Ningpq post the same as the stamp Sebastopolfun half stamp? The colors are so different. One is Black border and purple middle, the other is purple border and brown middle.

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15 Jan 2016
04:42:59pm

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Amazing, i have not seen them before !

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15 Jan 2016
04:58:40pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

These are listed in Barefoot's Telegraph Stamps of the World catalogue. There is a US seller on eBay at the moment, who has a complete H22 listed but has wrongly identified it as H18. The seller states that the complete H18 is listed at $8 (2013 catalogue edition):

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15 Jan 2016
05:17:53pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

I received my news letter from the "Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club" yesterday and it contained this article that was first published in "The Merchantville Club" news letter and then published in our news letter this month. Merchantville is located in NJ. The Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club meets on the third Tuesday every month in Willow Grove, PA. Send me an email if interested in either of these club.

Vince



By Paul Schumacher
During the British campaign to retake control of
Sudan the military telegraphs were vital to communications
in the huge and backward country. Even before
re-conquest was completed in 1898, plans were
made to produce distinctive stamps for payment of
telegraph service.
The essay of the central design features nine telegraph
wires, as specified by Herbert Kitchener, head of the
Anglo-Egyptian forces in Sudan. Earlier versions had
seven wires.
The stamps were typographed by Thomas de la Rue &
Co. in sheets of 60 (10
rows of 6), in two colors,
and on paper watermarked
with a rosette.
The stamps measured 41
by 24.5 millimeters and
were perforated vertically
down the middle,
the intention being that
they would be affixed to telegraph forms so that one
half would remain on
the form while the
other half would remain
on the receipt given to
the customer. Thus,
used examples are generally
separated halves.
Though catalogs usually give the issue date as March
1, 1898, the printer’s records indicate that the first
shipment was made later
in the month. The four
original values were 5
milliemes, 1 piaster, 2p,
and 5p. About six
months later a 10p value
was added, but on crescent
and star watermarked
paper. Between
1899 and 1901 the original
values were reissued on the revised paper, and a 25p
value was also added in 1900. Because the 5m and 5p
values were similar in color, a new 5m was issued in
July, 1901, with the colors being described as buff and
Cambridge blue.
The lovely Kerma cancel
on an unseparated pair
below is a well-known
fake cancel.
A request for a new
value was made in
December of 1902 but
canceled two months later. Usage of the camel train
stamps was generally discontinued in 1902, as regular
postage stamps were once again used to pay for
telegrams.
The camel train stamps were officially demonetized
on December 31, 1914.
*This article previous appeared the Merchantville
Stamp Club’s Bulletin.



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15 Jan 2016
06:47:41pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

These have also been listed in the SG "Part 1" Commonwealth & British Empire catalogue since the 2013 edition.

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Mike

15 Jan 2016
08:33:58pm
re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

I'm in agreement with Phil, I've never seen one of these before and I'm glad you posted this for us.
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15 Jan 2016
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re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

Vince -


Great article! Thanks for posting it !!













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16 Jan 2016
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Im glad you all enjoyed the posting and thread..
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16 Jan 2016
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Great stamp Sebastopolfun, thanks for posting that one....never seen one before....
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17 Jan 2016
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Nice. Thanks for posting it. I haven't seen one before ether.

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15 Jan 2016
01:56:17pm

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What ya Think ? Surprise At Wits End Rock On SillyThinking I Don't Want To See

No I did not do this,

This stamp I just came across today in my collection
which has been stored away for the past 22 years, nice value since it was
last cataloged in 1992. real bummere is my nh stamps, some have stuck.

Well thought I would share..

Happy Stamp-in all.

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15 Jan 2016
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re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

It's a military telegraph stamp. These were perforated through the middle:


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15 Jan 2016
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re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

Is the first stamp from Ningpq post the same as the stamp Sebastopolfun half stamp? The colors are so different. One is Black border and purple middle, the other is purple border and brown middle.

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Amazing, i have not seen them before !

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15 Jan 2016
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re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

These are listed in Barefoot's Telegraph Stamps of the World catalogue. There is a US seller on eBay at the moment, who has a complete H22 listed but has wrongly identified it as H18. The seller states that the complete H18 is listed at $8 (2013 catalogue edition):

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15 Jan 2016
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re: Unique and Very Interesting > Sudan Military Post Stamp. Can someone tell me what happened to this stamp

I received my news letter from the "Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club" yesterday and it contained this article that was first published in "The Merchantville Club" news letter and then published in our news letter this month. Merchantville is located in NJ. The Philadelphia Stamp And Collectors Club meets on the third Tuesday every month in Willow Grove, PA. Send me an email if interested in either of these club.

Vince



By Paul Schumacher
During the British campaign to retake control of
Sudan the military telegraphs were vital to communications
in the huge and backward country. Even before
re-conquest was completed in 1898, plans were
made to produce distinctive stamps for payment of
telegraph service.
The essay of the central design features nine telegraph
wires, as specified by Herbert Kitchener, head of the
Anglo-Egyptian forces in Sudan. Earlier versions had
seven wires.
The stamps were typographed by Thomas de la Rue &
Co. in sheets of 60 (10
rows of 6), in two colors,
and on paper watermarked
with a rosette.
The stamps measured 41
by 24.5 millimeters and
were perforated vertically
down the middle,
the intention being that
they would be affixed to telegraph forms so that one
half would remain on
the form while the
other half would remain
on the receipt given to
the customer. Thus,
used examples are generally
separated halves.
Though catalogs usually give the issue date as March
1, 1898, the printer’s records indicate that the first
shipment was made later
in the month. The four
original values were 5
milliemes, 1 piaster, 2p,
and 5p. About six
months later a 10p value
was added, but on crescent
and star watermarked
paper. Between
1899 and 1901 the original
values were reissued on the revised paper, and a 25p
value was also added in 1900. Because the 5m and 5p
values were similar in color, a new 5m was issued in
July, 1901, with the colors being described as buff and
Cambridge blue.
The lovely Kerma cancel
on an unseparated pair
below is a well-known
fake cancel.
A request for a new
value was made in
December of 1902 but
canceled two months later. Usage of the camel train
stamps was generally discontinued in 1902, as regular
postage stamps were once again used to pay for
telegrams.
The camel train stamps were officially demonetized
on December 31, 1914.
*This article previous appeared the Merchantville
Stamp Club’s Bulletin.



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15 Jan 2016
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15 Jan 2016
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I'm in agreement with Phil, I've never seen one of these before and I'm glad you posted this for us.
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Vince -


Great article! Thanks for posting it !!













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16 Jan 2016
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Im glad you all enjoyed the posting and thread..
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16 Jan 2016
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Great stamp Sebastopolfun, thanks for posting that one....never seen one before....
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17 Jan 2016
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Nice. Thanks for posting it. I haven't seen one before ether.

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