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29 Mar 2016
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I went to a office in town to conduct business this morning and i noticed the fellow had a few old bottles on his desk. I picked one up and he asked "did you ever see a bottle with a marble in it?" I never did..he explained that the bottle was of a soft drink and the marble was used to seal in the effervescence. The bottle was from Bermuda and he said he has not seen a bottle from the United States that used this method. Some days i actually do learn something new .
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29 Mar 2016
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Pretty cool, Phil. Just did a bit of Googling on these (Codd-neck, or Codd bottles), and found that they are still used in India and Japan.

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29 Mar 2016
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Thanks Ted, now i know what they are called...the owner mentioned that his was made by an English company that tried to introduce them in the United States at some point and they did not catch on here.

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29 Mar 2016
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There are many variations of these in the UK. Here'e a really nice cobalt blue Codd soda bottle from Newcastle, in the north:

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29 Mar 2016
04:13:24pm
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And as Ted indicated, Codd bottling still in use in India, in the state of Goa:


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29 Mar 2016
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As with other glass collectibles with which I am more familiar, cobalt blue examples appear to command very nice prices.

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29 Mar 2016
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Ningpo, please tell me they are not still using that device, also.

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29 Mar 2016
04:49:52pm
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We have the imported Ramune Soda from Japan here in Hamilton, and it has the marble in it to seal the bottle.

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29 Mar 2016
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More info on Codd bottles,
http://www.go-star.com/antiquing/codd.htm

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29 Mar 2016
07:47:00pm

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Yep, that looks like the bottle ! Amazing..the one the local fellow has is missing the grommet or washer. So tilt the bottle up and push the marble with your tongue !Happy

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29 Mar 2016
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"Ningpo, please tell me they are not still using that device, also."



I'm not sure if they still do. It would be less surprising if it was in other Indian states. Goa was a more 'affluent' state when I was there, with less poverty than much of India.

It was the first place I saw cigarettes being sold singly, spiral wrapped in a single coloured thread and the only place I was hounded to shine my rubber flip flops by a shoe shine boy on a beach.

Crazy but wonderful.

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30 Mar 2016
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I collect bottles of Scotch, as long as they are full.

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30 Mar 2016
04:48:34pm
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I found this way out in the boondocks the other day in an area where an old farmhouse once stood.."Old Quaker"..I collect all kinds of stuff like that, but don't know any values or anything. It still has some dirt in it, but no chips
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30 Mar 2016
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With a name like "Old Quaker" it's probably not a whiskey bottle. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I wonder what the heck it was


okay...I stand corrected. It was rye whiskey. I'll never be able to look at the guy on the oatmeal the same way. Please tell me the quakers weren't a bunch of drunks. (Apologies to all SoR quakers)


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30 Mar 2016
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i worked with a guy who hunted bottles..he could figure approximately where the outhouse was from old homesites and thats where they used to toss the bottles. don't worry, everything had turned to loam..you would find all kinds of old plates..crockery etc.

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30 Mar 2016
10:52:18pm
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I picked these up at an old homestead site in the area. The Old Quaker still has the original cap. My wife's grandpa was from Pearl, MS, he said down there the old timers called it Old Quack'r.

The other bottle I assume was rat poison, but some of those old whiskey's may have been know as "Rat Killer". It's one of my favorite bottles, but I shutter to think how many "drinkin' men" might have grabbed the wrong bottle off the shelf.Worried

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30 Mar 2016
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The rat bottle is interesting !

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31 Mar 2016
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those are cool WB!! nice amber color..I have an eagle claw and ball bitters bottle and an old Nehi bottle stashed at Mothers across the street, I will hunt those and post pics tomorrow..

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31 Mar 2016
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Profile of a local bottle hunter.

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31 Mar 2016
09:03:59am
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I used to collect bottles. My first find was a cobalt blue small druggist bottle nestled in the roots of a tree, completely exposed.
As I sat down by the tree, at the edge of a wetland, examining the flawless find, I looked up over the watery area realizing that there were thousands of submerged bottles. I made a mental note to go back there in the drier season to explore. That was 44 years ago.

Not far from that location in 1974, I was riding my trusty 10-speed Romana (I still ride it) when what I termed my bottle radar went off. I pulled over to the opposite side of the road and entered a small narrow section overgrown with some trees surrounding an uneven section of open ground. I quickly found a partially buried Duffy Malt Whiskey bottle. I rode back to my house and returned with a trowel. After finding about 50 bottles, I invited a friend to join me and we dug from first daylight until sun down for 7 days. We unearthed more than 6,000 19th Century bottles. By the time we started finding older dark green Johann Hoff bottles, that section of our dig was filling in with water as the original spot moved back away from the road into a marshy area--like the first location, I made the mental note to return. Unlike the first location, I did return in 1995. The location did not appear to have been disturbed in all those years but had filled in completely from the composting of the falling leaves. My friend found an old tooth polish bottle. I didn't dig that area of the marsh but it was completely dried out. I made the aforementioned mental note to go back some day. He-he.

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29 Mar 2016
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I went to a office in town to conduct business this morning and i noticed the fellow had a few old bottles on his desk. I picked one up and he asked "did you ever see a bottle with a marble in it?" I never did..he explained that the bottle was of a soft drink and the marble was used to seal in the effervescence. The bottle was from Bermuda and he said he has not seen a bottle from the United States that used this method. Some days i actually do learn something new .

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29 Mar 2016
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Pretty cool, Phil. Just did a bit of Googling on these (Codd-neck, or Codd bottles), and found that they are still used in India and Japan.

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Thanks Ted, now i know what they are called...the owner mentioned that his was made by an English company that tried to introduce them in the United States at some point and they did not catch on here.

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29 Mar 2016
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There are many variations of these in the UK. Here'e a really nice cobalt blue Codd soda bottle from Newcastle, in the north:

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And as Ted indicated, Codd bottling still in use in India, in the state of Goa:


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29 Mar 2016
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As with other glass collectibles with which I am more familiar, cobalt blue examples appear to command very nice prices.

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Ningpo, please tell me they are not still using that device, also.

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29 Mar 2016
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We have the imported Ramune Soda from Japan here in Hamilton, and it has the marble in it to seal the bottle.

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29 Mar 2016
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More info on Codd bottles,
http://www.go-star.com/antiquing/codd.htm

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29 Mar 2016
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Yep, that looks like the bottle ! Amazing..the one the local fellow has is missing the grommet or washer. So tilt the bottle up and push the marble with your tongue !Happy

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29 Mar 2016
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"Ningpo, please tell me they are not still using that device, also."



I'm not sure if they still do. It would be less surprising if it was in other Indian states. Goa was a more 'affluent' state when I was there, with less poverty than much of India.

It was the first place I saw cigarettes being sold singly, spiral wrapped in a single coloured thread and the only place I was hounded to shine my rubber flip flops by a shoe shine boy on a beach.

Crazy but wonderful.

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30 Mar 2016
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I collect bottles of Scotch, as long as they are full.

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I found this way out in the boondocks the other day in an area where an old farmhouse once stood.."Old Quaker"..I collect all kinds of stuff like that, but don't know any values or anything. It still has some dirt in it, but no chips
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30 Mar 2016
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With a name like "Old Quaker" it's probably not a whiskey bottle. Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I wonder what the heck it was


okay...I stand corrected. It was rye whiskey. I'll never be able to look at the guy on the oatmeal the same way. Please tell me the quakers weren't a bunch of drunks. (Apologies to all SoR quakers)


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i worked with a guy who hunted bottles..he could figure approximately where the outhouse was from old homesites and thats where they used to toss the bottles. don't worry, everything had turned to loam..you would find all kinds of old plates..crockery etc.

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30 Mar 2016
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I picked these up at an old homestead site in the area. The Old Quaker still has the original cap. My wife's grandpa was from Pearl, MS, he said down there the old timers called it Old Quack'r.

The other bottle I assume was rat poison, but some of those old whiskey's may have been know as "Rat Killer". It's one of my favorite bottles, but I shutter to think how many "drinkin' men" might have grabbed the wrong bottle off the shelf.Worried

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The rat bottle is interesting !

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those are cool WB!! nice amber color..I have an eagle claw and ball bitters bottle and an old Nehi bottle stashed at Mothers across the street, I will hunt those and post pics tomorrow..

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I used to collect bottles. My first find was a cobalt blue small druggist bottle nestled in the roots of a tree, completely exposed.
As I sat down by the tree, at the edge of a wetland, examining the flawless find, I looked up over the watery area realizing that there were thousands of submerged bottles. I made a mental note to go back there in the drier season to explore. That was 44 years ago.

Not far from that location in 1974, I was riding my trusty 10-speed Romana (I still ride it) when what I termed my bottle radar went off. I pulled over to the opposite side of the road and entered a small narrow section overgrown with some trees surrounding an uneven section of open ground. I quickly found a partially buried Duffy Malt Whiskey bottle. I rode back to my house and returned with a trowel. After finding about 50 bottles, I invited a friend to join me and we dug from first daylight until sun down for 7 days. We unearthed more than 6,000 19th Century bottles. By the time we started finding older dark green Johann Hoff bottles, that section of our dig was filling in with water as the original spot moved back away from the road into a marshy area--like the first location, I made the mental note to return. Unlike the first location, I did return in 1995. The location did not appear to have been disturbed in all those years but had filled in completely from the composting of the falling leaves. My friend found an old tooth polish bottle. I didn't dig that area of the marsh but it was completely dried out. I made the aforementioned mental note to go back some day. He-he.

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