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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Should I invest in newer catalogs?

 

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bigcreekdad

04 Apr 2017
09:15:44am
I've got a 2007 set of Scott's. If I am going to start buying and selling again, should I be buying a newer set? Or, is there some general % change overall in catalog values from 2007 til now that I can use in pricing for both buys and sells?

Finally, if I buy newer, any ideas on what I might fetch in selling the 2007 catalogs?

Thanks in advance.
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04 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

you won't get a lot for 7s. There a decade out of date, and only a beginner is likely to want them.

however, there's little need for newer catalogues UNLESS you plan to buy and sell newere stamps, then, yes. I don't think the price differential will be high, or worthy of note, except for hi-value material, in which case, then you need newer catalogues.

I consider myself well served by a set of 10s (11 for US specialized) that I bought for $45 the set maybe two years ago

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04 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

If you want to sell, then you need to update your catalogs. The 2018 Scott catalogs are being released starting this month. Your catalogs are 11 years out of date. There are undoubtedly stamps that have decreased in value since 2007, and others have increased. You won't be able to properly price the stamps, and your sales may show for it. I would say that your catalogs should be no older than three or four years from the current catalog.

I have conducted several reviews of the Scott catalogs right here in this forum.

Here is a link to the 2015-2017 review:

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=14513#124533

Here is the 2013-2015 review (full version)

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8540#117005

Here is the 2013-2015 summary review

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8592#117004

I did similar reviews prior to this, but those were on a now defunct site, and are probably lost.

I would suggest you take a look at the reviews. See what has happened in the most recent five years with the countries you would be selling. Some countries, and if what you have is mostly common material, don't change that much over decades. Then you can decide if you want to update your catalogs.

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05 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

You could get some idea of if you need new catalogs by looking up actual selling prices being asked for say 10 common stamps, 10 stamps cataloging $5 or so in 2007 and 10 stamps cataloging $20 or more in 2007 on Hipstamp (and check on Ebay as well for those cataloging $20 or more - use "sold" pricing).

Take a look at what you wish to sell and what difference the newer catalogs would have made. There is no generalization that works ... a lot of your need for new catalogs depends on the price range of the material you will be selling and how many dollars worth of material you are planning on selling.

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Here is a Scott press release regarding Volume 1 of the 2018 catalogues:

Updates and Changes for 2018

Slightly more value changes (1,022) were made in United States for Vol. 1A of the 2018 Scott Standard catalog than were made last year (783), with greater numbers of changes made in all categories from Postage through Stamped Envelopes (cut squares)

Official stamps performed well, because some quality examples made their way to the marketplace. The scarcer Official special printings did especially well.

More than 750 value changes are recorded for French Andorra, and the bulk of these changes are seen among stamps issued during 1976-2010

Angola received a thorough review this year, resulting in almost 2,700 value changes, which reflect mostly downward movement. Scattered increases can be found among the scarce issues and varieties

Much new work has been done on the Computer Vended Postage section, mostly in clarifying listings and footnotes

A bump in collector interest for Barbuda prompted the editors to do a careful review, which resulted in somewhat more than 2,000 value changes

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06 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

My catalogues are 2009. My previous ones were 1998 of which I simply gave to a new collector.

I'm currently working on cataloguing my "specialty" collections. I've got them on excel and borrowed the 2017 catalogues from the library. I have several friends who read the CVs to me so I can input them into my spreadsheet.

Except for higher value, as mentioned above, there have not been that many changes. In fact my 2009s in my one collection have de-valued by about half. Likewise for some of the higher values. However, most of my "prized" issues have seen quite an increase.

Of course I have no intention on selling those but it is interesting to see the fluctuations. Only in high values will you see a "stock market" effect for lack of a better word. Considering mine are limited and took years to acquire, mainly due to finances which required creative ways to stockpile enough dough for the ones I wanted - I simply enjoy - or get depressed when I see the updates. To eliminate that, I tend to overhaul my inventory about every 3 years or so. Doing it yearly would just be depressing when they are de-valued.

If you are selling here and it was a minimum value stamp in 2007, chances are - it probably is still a minimum value stamp. Your library is your best bet!

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06 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I agree with Carol (webpaper) that if you are concerned with pricing for selling and for buying for resale, your best bet is to skip the Scotts and research actual market prices. The catalog valuations have little to no correlation to market prices.

I have found "20% of SCV" to be a pretty standard market price for the majority of stamps I search for, but then you can find many that routinely sell for even less, and others that usually bring higher percentages of SCV. So you can't even realistically use a straightforward "% of SCV" to guide your buying and selling prices.

Stampworld.com provides a worldwide catalog with, generally, more realistic valuations than Scott (with minimal value stamps listed at 11 cents vs Scott's 25c), though most are still significantly higher than actual market prices. But, for use as simply a reference tool, it is just as useful as Scott's, at a much lower price (as in "free.") It is also much more user friendly, as it usually depicts every stamp in a set (with large clear images), and its search capabilities are excellent (so long as they have entered descriptions and not just denominations and colors for the listing).



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07 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I buy full sets every 8-10 years. I do not collect current stamps or sell them so I do not need new catalogs every year. They are very expensive and I would rather spend my money on stamps instead. However, I buy a Scott Classic Specialized catalog every 3 years. This catalog shows all countries up to 1940 in one volume. This is the catalog that I use or have need to use 95% of the time. Most stamps after 1940 rarely show increases in catalog value. As Youpiao mentioned if I need a recent quote on stamps after 1940 I reference Stamp world.

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07 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

You may want to consider purchasing the online catalogues. They have their pluses and minuses but the good thing is there are some countries that you can buy individually. If you don't need the specialized US catalog, you can get the 2017 one for $18. You may want to wait a little bit for the 2018 which I doubt would cost much more. Even the full catalogues cost a bit less than the paper catalogues.

For me, the major plus is that I can access the catalogues from any computer, smart phone, tablet. Of course you need internet access (could be a minus). The searching is not great and navigation is a bit clunky.

Here is a link if you are interested.
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07 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Thanks for the link to the online Scott ecatalogues. Since I mainly collect Russia, Germany and Canada, this would be an awesome method of having new catalogues.

Has anyone tried using them with your browser magnification? (Control+) up to 500%? Some websites become distorted or cannot be navigated properly when magnified. My computer can be connected to my 32" tv for higher magnification and my new computer will also have a special program that will magnify up to 1000% mirrored to my tv without distortion.

If these can be viewed clearly with the browser on high magnification, it would be fantastic. I'm currently updating my DDR and it is tedious because I require someone to read the print catalogue values to me. This would mean I could read the catalogue on my own.

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08 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Kelly,

They have a free sample catalog you can try. (I think it's US for just the year 2015 or something similar.)

I think you have to set up your account with them, but it shouldn't require paying anything -- you just need to register. If they don't point you to the sample catalog as part of the registration/orientation, just enter "sample" into the product search bar and it'll come up. (I just tested it.)

I tried using the magnifying settings that they use with the product -- it's something called "Dynamic Books", from Olive (or Olive Tree?) Software, with its own magnification slider -- so I don't know if it would work for you or not.

But the sample product looks just like a purchased catalog, so it should hopefully give you a good idea how it might work for you.

I've purchased just once: Japan for 2016. I wasn't a huge fan, and went back to the print catalogs, but, to their credit, I still have access to that product. It's not like it was a license for a just a year or other limited time period.)

Let me know if you need any additional help with this!

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Thanks Dave,

I'll give it a try tmw when I'm on my computer. I'll let you guys know how well it works out.

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08 Apr 2017
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I'll be interested in hearing how it works for you.

Fingers crossed!

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08 Apr 2017
06:14:46am
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I knew Scott had digital catalogues but after looking at the link appear have e-editions of British Commonwealth versions but again they split them up alphabetically. I wonder where they put Straits Settlements -- under Malaya or under S.

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08 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

On my 32" tv using the highest magnification of the Scott software:

Image Not Found

When I tried with my current magnifier, it just blurred and pixelised it. Even at the highest Scott magnification, the pictures are not clear.

I'm not sure if it will work better with my new computer when it arrives with ZoomText - which may magnify it without too much distortion - it would still only allow me to see small sections but it may magnify it more so I can read it and not get lost (too often!).

It would still be tedious to use as it literally will only show this amount of information so I'd need to constantly be scrolling up, down and over to see things but it would give me more independence that having someone read things to me - although definitely not faster.

Never know until you try, right?

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10 Apr 2017
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My current Scott catalogs are the 2012 edition. I have been considering getting the 2017 or 2018 editions. Does anyone have any thoughts on if I should go for the newer ones? They are getting quite expensive.

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" .... Does anyone have any thoughts on if I should go for the newer ones? ...."

My thought; Do not waste you money. Seek a two to five year old set if you must, unless you are a dealer selling recent issues, even then a one or two year old set should suffice.

Let me ask you a question; what do you expect to gain from a $700.oo expenditure ?

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

If you really feel that you need an upgrade, try Kijijii, your local library or a stamp auction site like the following.

http://www.fvhstamps.com/WeeklyAuctions/FvhWA.htm

I bought a 2014 set(ex library) for CA$120 off Kijijii
They are out there, but sometimes need finding.

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11 Apr 2017
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There are individual volumes and entire sets on sale at various places (ebay, etc)

The individual below sells country pages (removed from catalogues). The price seems to be around $2 per country but I have never ordered anything from them.

http://scottcataloguepages.com/

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Last Saturday I bought two volumes of the Michel Europe catalogue. South and South west Europe (volumes 2 and 3) for 2.50 euros each. They were from 2012 and 2014, not brand new anymore but in good condition and pretty useful.

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I would echo the comment to check out your local library. Our library here buys each new Scott volume as it comes out. So, I pick up the odd 5+/- year old Scott volume cheaply as it comes up at a local auction for reference, and if I need to check an up-to-date price on something I go to the library.

Catalogues I would recommend (to intermediate/advanced North American collectors)for purchase every 2 or 3 years.

Scott Specialized for US Collectors
Unitrade for Canada Collectors
Scott Classic Worldwide

These catalogues pay for themselves. Regular Scott W/W not so much.

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03 Jun 2017
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Doesn't it depend on why you need them?

For me, its about identification, and I don't collect modern, so my 2007 set is more than sufficient.

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I purchased a Scott Classic worldwide for some countries and did not have usefulness above the standard catalogue.

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I often refer to my 2004 hard-back Scott Classic catalogue. It's a lot easier on my arthritic hands than the floppy, massive individual Scott volumes. Since I collect mainly older stamps, I certainly don't need brand-new catalogues. Last year I bought a set of 2014 Scott standard catalogues (volume GI is 2013) for those stamps and years that aren't included in the Classic catalogue, which stops at 1952 (end of George VI era) for the Commonwealth and 1940 for the rest of the world.

I have a 1996 Scott Specialized U.S. catalogue to which I often refer (and which I probably should update), and a 2006 Unitrade Canada catalogue.

I collect North and South Vietnam stamps, and have two catalogues for them, an out of print Nu-Line specialized catalogue of North Vietnam and Viet Cong stamps, and a set of recent Vietnam pages that I bought from an eBay dealer, CHIROKMD, who dismembers new Scott catalogues into country sets. His prices are reasonable, in my opinion; it’s a viable option if you collect only a few countries.

I also have an old (1991) Stanley Gibbons Russia catalogue, a very old Sanabria's Air Post Catalogue (1948 edition, but few were issued after that), and a 2009 Stanley Gibbons Collect Aircraft on Stamps.

The only reasons for a collector to buy new catalogues is if he or she has too much money, in which case, send some to me!. And dealers, of course, need up-to-date catalogue values. Otherwise, save your money and buy used catalogues.

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I collect North and South Vietnam stamps, and have two catalogues for them, an out of print Nu-Line specialized catalogue of North Vietnam and Viet Cong stamps, and a set of recent Vietnam pages that I bought from an eBay dealer, CHIROKMD, who dismembers new Scott catalogues into country sets. His prices are reasonable, in my opinion; it’s a viable option if you collect only a few countries.


Couldn't agree more I only collect 6 countries and only get my pages from CHIROKMD I find them very reasonable.I do have a set of SG 2010 and Scott's 2009.I have no intention of purchasing a new set of catalogues.
I also use www,stampworld.com for newer issues I come across .
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I also get the catalog extracts from CHIROKMD.


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07 Jun 2017
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I'm with phos45. I use EZStamp for my US collection. The application is licensed for all Scott numbers and values. I buy the update every year, which includes the latest releases and current Scott values for all stamps and related items. It is equivalent to buying the latest Scott Catalog, but only sets me back $40.

Worldwide collectors can buy the EZStamp database, which I believe is equivalent to the complete Scott series, for only $318. I'm sure that the annual updates are less than that.

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I think i prefer to spend on stamps and covers rather than scotts worldwide catalogs...if i need a specialized book for say Guatemala or Netherlands Indies..i can get copies of the pages from the APS and print them out myself.

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04 Apr 2017
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I've got a 2007 set of Scott's. If I am going to start buying and selling again, should I be buying a newer set? Or, is there some general % change overall in catalog values from 2007 til now that I can use in pricing for both buys and sells?

Finally, if I buy newer, any ideas on what I might fetch in selling the 2007 catalogs?

Thanks in advance.

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you won't get a lot for 7s. There a decade out of date, and only a beginner is likely to want them.

however, there's little need for newer catalogues UNLESS you plan to buy and sell newere stamps, then, yes. I don't think the price differential will be high, or worthy of note, except for hi-value material, in which case, then you need newer catalogues.

I consider myself well served by a set of 10s (11 for US specialized) that I bought for $45 the set maybe two years ago

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04 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

If you want to sell, then you need to update your catalogs. The 2018 Scott catalogs are being released starting this month. Your catalogs are 11 years out of date. There are undoubtedly stamps that have decreased in value since 2007, and others have increased. You won't be able to properly price the stamps, and your sales may show for it. I would say that your catalogs should be no older than three or four years from the current catalog.

I have conducted several reviews of the Scott catalogs right here in this forum.

Here is a link to the 2015-2017 review:

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=14513#124533

Here is the 2013-2015 review (full version)

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8540#117005

Here is the 2013-2015 summary review

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=8592#117004

I did similar reviews prior to this, but those were on a now defunct site, and are probably lost.

I would suggest you take a look at the reviews. See what has happened in the most recent five years with the countries you would be selling. Some countries, and if what you have is mostly common material, don't change that much over decades. Then you can decide if you want to update your catalogs.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

You could get some idea of if you need new catalogs by looking up actual selling prices being asked for say 10 common stamps, 10 stamps cataloging $5 or so in 2007 and 10 stamps cataloging $20 or more in 2007 on Hipstamp (and check on Ebay as well for those cataloging $20 or more - use "sold" pricing).

Take a look at what you wish to sell and what difference the newer catalogs would have made. There is no generalization that works ... a lot of your need for new catalogs depends on the price range of the material you will be selling and how many dollars worth of material you are planning on selling.

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Here is a Scott press release regarding Volume 1 of the 2018 catalogues:

Updates and Changes for 2018

Slightly more value changes (1,022) were made in United States for Vol. 1A of the 2018 Scott Standard catalog than were made last year (783), with greater numbers of changes made in all categories from Postage through Stamped Envelopes (cut squares)

Official stamps performed well, because some quality examples made their way to the marketplace. The scarcer Official special printings did especially well.

More than 750 value changes are recorded for French Andorra, and the bulk of these changes are seen among stamps issued during 1976-2010

Angola received a thorough review this year, resulting in almost 2,700 value changes, which reflect mostly downward movement. Scattered increases can be found among the scarce issues and varieties

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

My catalogues are 2009. My previous ones were 1998 of which I simply gave to a new collector.

I'm currently working on cataloguing my "specialty" collections. I've got them on excel and borrowed the 2017 catalogues from the library. I have several friends who read the CVs to me so I can input them into my spreadsheet.

Except for higher value, as mentioned above, there have not been that many changes. In fact my 2009s in my one collection have de-valued by about half. Likewise for some of the higher values. However, most of my "prized" issues have seen quite an increase.

Of course I have no intention on selling those but it is interesting to see the fluctuations. Only in high values will you see a "stock market" effect for lack of a better word. Considering mine are limited and took years to acquire, mainly due to finances which required creative ways to stockpile enough dough for the ones I wanted - I simply enjoy - or get depressed when I see the updates. To eliminate that, I tend to overhaul my inventory about every 3 years or so. Doing it yearly would just be depressing when they are de-valued.

If you are selling here and it was a minimum value stamp in 2007, chances are - it probably is still a minimum value stamp. Your library is your best bet!

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I agree with Carol (webpaper) that if you are concerned with pricing for selling and for buying for resale, your best bet is to skip the Scotts and research actual market prices. The catalog valuations have little to no correlation to market prices.

I have found "20% of SCV" to be a pretty standard market price for the majority of stamps I search for, but then you can find many that routinely sell for even less, and others that usually bring higher percentages of SCV. So you can't even realistically use a straightforward "% of SCV" to guide your buying and selling prices.

Stampworld.com provides a worldwide catalog with, generally, more realistic valuations than Scott (with minimal value stamps listed at 11 cents vs Scott's 25c), though most are still significantly higher than actual market prices. But, for use as simply a reference tool, it is just as useful as Scott's, at a much lower price (as in "free.") It is also much more user friendly, as it usually depicts every stamp in a set (with large clear images), and its search capabilities are excellent (so long as they have entered descriptions and not just denominations and colors for the listing).



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07 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I buy full sets every 8-10 years. I do not collect current stamps or sell them so I do not need new catalogs every year. They are very expensive and I would rather spend my money on stamps instead. However, I buy a Scott Classic Specialized catalog every 3 years. This catalog shows all countries up to 1940 in one volume. This is the catalog that I use or have need to use 95% of the time. Most stamps after 1940 rarely show increases in catalog value. As Youpiao mentioned if I need a recent quote on stamps after 1940 I reference Stamp world.

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07 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

You may want to consider purchasing the online catalogues. They have their pluses and minuses but the good thing is there are some countries that you can buy individually. If you don't need the specialized US catalog, you can get the 2017 one for $18. You may want to wait a little bit for the 2018 which I doubt would cost much more. Even the full catalogues cost a bit less than the paper catalogues.

For me, the major plus is that I can access the catalogues from any computer, smart phone, tablet. Of course you need internet access (could be a minus). The searching is not great and navigation is a bit clunky.

Here is a link if you are interested.
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Thanks for the link to the online Scott ecatalogues. Since I mainly collect Russia, Germany and Canada, this would be an awesome method of having new catalogues.

Has anyone tried using them with your browser magnification? (Control+) up to 500%? Some websites become distorted or cannot be navigated properly when magnified. My computer can be connected to my 32" tv for higher magnification and my new computer will also have a special program that will magnify up to 1000% mirrored to my tv without distortion.

If these can be viewed clearly with the browser on high magnification, it would be fantastic. I'm currently updating my DDR and it is tedious because I require someone to read the print catalogue values to me. This would mean I could read the catalogue on my own.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Kelly,

They have a free sample catalog you can try. (I think it's US for just the year 2015 or something similar.)

I think you have to set up your account with them, but it shouldn't require paying anything -- you just need to register. If they don't point you to the sample catalog as part of the registration/orientation, just enter "sample" into the product search bar and it'll come up. (I just tested it.)

I tried using the magnifying settings that they use with the product -- it's something called "Dynamic Books", from Olive (or Olive Tree?) Software, with its own magnification slider -- so I don't know if it would work for you or not.

But the sample product looks just like a purchased catalog, so it should hopefully give you a good idea how it might work for you.

I've purchased just once: Japan for 2016. I wasn't a huge fan, and went back to the print catalogs, but, to their credit, I still have access to that product. It's not like it was a license for a just a year or other limited time period.)

Let me know if you need any additional help with this!

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Thanks Dave,

I'll give it a try tmw when I'm on my computer. I'll let you guys know how well it works out.

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I'll be interested in hearing how it works for you.

Fingers crossed!

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08 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I knew Scott had digital catalogues but after looking at the link appear have e-editions of British Commonwealth versions but again they split them up alphabetically. I wonder where they put Straits Settlements -- under Malaya or under S.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

On my 32" tv using the highest magnification of the Scott software:

Image Not Found

When I tried with my current magnifier, it just blurred and pixelised it. Even at the highest Scott magnification, the pictures are not clear.

I'm not sure if it will work better with my new computer when it arrives with ZoomText - which may magnify it without too much distortion - it would still only allow me to see small sections but it may magnify it more so I can read it and not get lost (too often!).

It would still be tedious to use as it literally will only show this amount of information so I'd need to constantly be scrolling up, down and over to see things but it would give me more independence that having someone read things to me - although definitely not faster.

Never know until you try, right?

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My current Scott catalogs are the 2012 edition. I have been considering getting the 2017 or 2018 editions. Does anyone have any thoughts on if I should go for the newer ones? They are getting quite expensive.

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" .... Does anyone have any thoughts on if I should go for the newer ones? ...."

My thought; Do not waste you money. Seek a two to five year old set if you must, unless you are a dealer selling recent issues, even then a one or two year old set should suffice.

Let me ask you a question; what do you expect to gain from a $700.oo expenditure ?

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10 Apr 2017
09:21:05pm

re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

If you really feel that you need an upgrade, try Kijijii, your local library or a stamp auction site like the following.

http://www.fvhstamps.com/WeeklyAuctions/FvhWA.htm

I bought a 2014 set(ex library) for CA$120 off Kijijii
They are out there, but sometimes need finding.

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11 Apr 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

There are individual volumes and entire sets on sale at various places (ebay, etc)

The individual below sells country pages (removed from catalogues). The price seems to be around $2 per country but I have never ordered anything from them.

http://scottcataloguepages.com/

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11 Apr 2017
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Last Saturday I bought two volumes of the Michel Europe catalogue. South and South west Europe (volumes 2 and 3) for 2.50 euros each. They were from 2012 and 2014, not brand new anymore but in good condition and pretty useful.

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11 Apr 2017
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I would echo the comment to check out your local library. Our library here buys each new Scott volume as it comes out. So, I pick up the odd 5+/- year old Scott volume cheaply as it comes up at a local auction for reference, and if I need to check an up-to-date price on something I go to the library.

Catalogues I would recommend (to intermediate/advanced North American collectors)for purchase every 2 or 3 years.

Scott Specialized for US Collectors
Unitrade for Canada Collectors
Scott Classic Worldwide

These catalogues pay for themselves. Regular Scott W/W not so much.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

Doesn't it depend on why you need them?

For me, its about identification, and I don't collect modern, so my 2007 set is more than sufficient.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I purchased a Scott Classic worldwide for some countries and did not have usefulness above the standard catalogue.

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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I often refer to my 2004 hard-back Scott Classic catalogue. It's a lot easier on my arthritic hands than the floppy, massive individual Scott volumes. Since I collect mainly older stamps, I certainly don't need brand-new catalogues. Last year I bought a set of 2014 Scott standard catalogues (volume GI is 2013) for those stamps and years that aren't included in the Classic catalogue, which stops at 1952 (end of George VI era) for the Commonwealth and 1940 for the rest of the world.

I have a 1996 Scott Specialized U.S. catalogue to which I often refer (and which I probably should update), and a 2006 Unitrade Canada catalogue.

I collect North and South Vietnam stamps, and have two catalogues for them, an out of print Nu-Line specialized catalogue of North Vietnam and Viet Cong stamps, and a set of recent Vietnam pages that I bought from an eBay dealer, CHIROKMD, who dismembers new Scott catalogues into country sets. His prices are reasonable, in my opinion; it’s a viable option if you collect only a few countries.

I also have an old (1991) Stanley Gibbons Russia catalogue, a very old Sanabria's Air Post Catalogue (1948 edition, but few were issued after that), and a 2009 Stanley Gibbons Collect Aircraft on Stamps.

The only reasons for a collector to buy new catalogues is if he or she has too much money, in which case, send some to me!. And dealers, of course, need up-to-date catalogue values. Otherwise, save your money and buy used catalogues.

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07 Jun 2017
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I collect North and South Vietnam stamps, and have two catalogues for them, an out of print Nu-Line specialized catalogue of North Vietnam and Viet Cong stamps, and a set of recent Vietnam pages that I bought from an eBay dealer, CHIROKMD, who dismembers new Scott catalogues into country sets. His prices are reasonable, in my opinion; it’s a viable option if you collect only a few countries.


Couldn't agree more I only collect 6 countries and only get my pages from CHIROKMD I find them very reasonable.I do have a set of SG 2010 and Scott's 2009.I have no intention of purchasing a new set of catalogues.
I also use www,stampworld.com for newer issues I come across .
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I also get the catalog extracts from CHIROKMD.


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07 Jun 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

https://ezstamp.com/many-new-databases-have-been-added-recently/

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07 Jun 2017
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re: Should I invest in newer catalogs?

I'm with phos45. I use EZStamp for my US collection. The application is licensed for all Scott numbers and values. I buy the update every year, which includes the latest releases and current Scott values for all stamps and related items. It is equivalent to buying the latest Scott Catalog, but only sets me back $40.

Worldwide collectors can buy the EZStamp database, which I believe is equivalent to the complete Scott series, for only $318. I'm sure that the annual updates are less than that.

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08 Jun 2017
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https://www.ezstamp.com/ezstamp/Ez8CountriesList.pdf

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08 Jun 2017
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I think i prefer to spend on stamps and covers rather than scotts worldwide catalogs...if i need a specialized book for say Guatemala or Netherlands Indies..i can get copies of the pages from the APS and print them out myself.

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