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26 May 2017
07:34:36am
This is a Memorial Day weekend in the US. It honors those who died during active military service.

I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable weekend.
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26 May 2017
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thanks Al, for reminding us why we head to the BBQs and parades.....

I must remember to keep the men and women who put themselves out there in harm's way.

I'm a Viet Nam era kid; I didn't serve; but my interest in military things and my proximity to danger have made me accutely aware of those who did in a way that other wars haven't (the sorts of fighting we;re seeing in Afghanistan and, earlier, Iraq, brings it fairly close to home).

Happily, he's not dead, nor fixin' to be, but I can't think of days of military commemoration without thinking of our Bob Ingraham, who has documented so much of his own service, short as it was, sacrafice, big as it was, and related topics, such as Joe Hicks' last flight on an RCAF Hampden bomber: http://www.ephemeraltreasures.net/sgt-joe-hicks.html. So whether you tip your boonie to Bob for his service, or Joe for his, or for my nephew Elliot, who does qualify for Monday's commemoration, make sure it merits at least as much attention as the pickles and beer.

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26 May 2017
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Pickles?? really?

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26 May 2017
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Yes, it seems the average American has lost the significance of this national holiday, and it's become the official start of summer, and an excuse for store sales! Nothing less significant than the big blow out sale for Japanese cars!

Like David, I was in the era where the Viet Nam war ended when I was 16, so the draft also ended. I did not serve in the military, but I grew up military as my father was a career US Army officer. He did serve in Viet Nam back in 1962, before we officially sent in combat troops in 1965. So let's give thanks to those who served, those currently serving, and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms.

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26 May 2017
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On this Memorial Day weekend, I remember a boy named Darwin Judge from my hometown of Marshalltown, Iowa that I played Little League baseball with, who paid the ultimate sacrifice. Darwin Judge and Charles McMahon were the last two US Marines killed in action in the Vietnam War, on Vietnamese soil, in a rocket attack on the Tan Son Nhut Airport one day before the Fall of Saigon and the end of the war. These men are who we honor this weekend.

All gave some, some gave all...

Darwin Judge, born February 16, 1956, died April 29, 1975, buried at Rose Hill Cemetery in Marshall County Iowa.
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26 May 2017
05:58:22pm
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On a happier note, next week, June 2nd, my oldest son, M/sgt Andrew Jensen, finishes the twenty year service in the USAF and is retiring. We are going out to Las Vegas next week so we (some of the family who can .) can attend the Top Sargent retirement ceremony at a remote Air Base in the Desert a few miles from the city.

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27 May 2017
08:18:23am
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Charlie... I'm sure you're very proud. Those two gentlemen look just like you. Is your sons retirement ceremony at Area 51?

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27 May 2017
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I'm assuming it's Nellis A.F.B. but that's just a guessThinking

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27 May 2017
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow....
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28 May 2017
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28 May 2017
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France and Belgium, could anyone make sense of the slaughter ?

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29 May 2017
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it's all the generals knew.

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29 May 2017
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Ken, Bob and Davids posts got me reading about the battle of the Somme. What a disgrace. Field Marshal Haig should have been court martialed thrown in prison for the rest of his life.

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29 May 2017
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How about Churchill and Galippoli ?

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29 May 2017
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I was at the Leiby family reunion Sunday in Peoria, Ilan it always reminds me of why Memorial day is important in our family. My grandfather Albert served in the army in WWI. In fact I got a small scholarship to the University of Illinois as a descendant of a WWI veteran. My grandfather had four sons, Albert Jr (my father), Walter, Richard and Jack. All four served in the Army in WII, my dad was peacetime Army in 39 and was part f the DDay operation, Richard was wounded in the Hurtgen Forest offensive, Jack and walt were stateside but Jack was scheduled for the invasion of Japan. Richard is still alive at 92 while all of the others have passed. I am the oldest son of Albert and served four years in the Air Force and my brother Ron served four years in the Navy.. I was in Korea when they were asking for volunteers for Vietnam in 1963, which officially started Jan, 1965. I got out in Mar, 1965 without having to serve in Vietnam . Jan to Mar of 65 however qualified me for Vietnam era GI bill and paid for my education. My oldest boy Jack, Jr served four years in the Army, my youngest boy went to the US Naval Academy and is a career helicopter pilot and is eligible to retire in several years. He was in the Persian gulf flyin oil interdiction at Saddams time. And last but not least, my oldest daughter's son also went to the US Naval Academy and then served five years in the Navy. My brother's oldest boy served five years in the Navy and my youngest brother's son is a career man in the Air force. He is a crew chief on a fighter jet. Who knows what the future will bring as there were all kinds of nieces and nephews at the reunion. I hope none of them ever have to serve but given the world we live in that's probably not going to happen.
I give a large Memorial Day vote of appreciation and thanks for all of you and your family member who have served our country.
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30 May 2017
07:33:48am
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I would think a stamp of the tomb of the unknown soldier would be an appropriate stamp.

I spent the weekend working on making album pages, mowing the yard (takes 2 hrs), and detailing my car (took 6 hrs). Our internet was out 13 hrs on Monday (area outage due to fiber getting cut) and Verizon wireless almost useless due to the load moving from broadband service being down.

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30 May 2017
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Gallipoli MIGHT have succeeded IF the commanding generals had pursued an aggressive landing from the beginning and hit the Turks BEFORE they were entrenched; had they done so, it might have gone very differently. Later valor on the part of the troops couldn't make up for initial timidity on the part of the generals.

Gallipoli also represents a strategy that the Allies would take throughout the war: seeing the western front was unwinnable, they kept trying to flank Axis, getting Italy, then Romania, then Greece involved. Each required substantial commitments of material to keep the new allies in the war; all became drains.

Eventually, materielle was so short that allies spent energy trying to retrieve it from the newly neutral Bolsheviks, to whom they had given immense stores to keep them in the war.

interestingly, Daniel Barlow devised an attack strategy against entrenched troops during the American Civil War; not dissimilar to the Napoleanic approach, in which rather than attacking across a broad front, a narrow point is pushed. The key, as with the broadh front, is to have reserves immediately available to hold the dearly purchased territory. I'll continue if anyone is interested.


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26 May 2017
07:34:36am

This is a Memorial Day weekend in the US. It honors those who died during active military service.

I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable weekend.

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26 May 2017
08:44:10am

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thanks Al, for reminding us why we head to the BBQs and parades.....

I must remember to keep the men and women who put themselves out there in harm's way.

I'm a Viet Nam era kid; I didn't serve; but my interest in military things and my proximity to danger have made me accutely aware of those who did in a way that other wars haven't (the sorts of fighting we;re seeing in Afghanistan and, earlier, Iraq, brings it fairly close to home).

Happily, he's not dead, nor fixin' to be, but I can't think of days of military commemoration without thinking of our Bob Ingraham, who has documented so much of his own service, short as it was, sacrafice, big as it was, and related topics, such as Joe Hicks' last flight on an RCAF Hampden bomber: http://www.ephemeraltreasures.net/sgt-joe-hicks.html. So whether you tip your boonie to Bob for his service, or Joe for his, or for my nephew Elliot, who does qualify for Monday's commemoration, make sure it merits at least as much attention as the pickles and beer.

David

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26 May 2017
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Pickles?? really?

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26 May 2017
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Yes, it seems the average American has lost the significance of this national holiday, and it's become the official start of summer, and an excuse for store sales! Nothing less significant than the big blow out sale for Japanese cars!

Like David, I was in the era where the Viet Nam war ended when I was 16, so the draft also ended. I did not serve in the military, but I grew up military as my father was a career US Army officer. He did serve in Viet Nam back in 1962, before we officially sent in combat troops in 1965. So let's give thanks to those who served, those currently serving, and those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms.

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26 May 2017
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On this Memorial Day weekend, I remember a boy named Darwin Judge from my hometown of Marshalltown, Iowa that I played Little League baseball with, who paid the ultimate sacrifice. Darwin Judge and Charles McMahon were the last two US Marines killed in action in the Vietnam War, on Vietnamese soil, in a rocket attack on the Tan Son Nhut Airport one day before the Fall of Saigon and the end of the war. These men are who we honor this weekend.

All gave some, some gave all...

Darwin Judge, born February 16, 1956, died April 29, 1975, buried at Rose Hill Cemetery in Marshall County Iowa.
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On a happier note, next week, June 2nd, my oldest son, M/sgt Andrew Jensen, finishes the twenty year service in the USAF and is retiring. We are going out to Las Vegas next week so we (some of the family who can .) can attend the Top Sargent retirement ceremony at a remote Air Base in the Desert a few miles from the city.

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27 May 2017
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Charlie... I'm sure you're very proud. Those two gentlemen look just like you. Is your sons retirement ceremony at Area 51?

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27 May 2017
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27 May 2017
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In Flanders fields the poppies blow....
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Ken, Bob and Davids posts got me reading about the battle of the Somme. What a disgrace. Field Marshal Haig should have been court martialed thrown in prison for the rest of his life.

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I was at the Leiby family reunion Sunday in Peoria, Ilan it always reminds me of why Memorial day is important in our family. My grandfather Albert served in the army in WWI. In fact I got a small scholarship to the University of Illinois as a descendant of a WWI veteran. My grandfather had four sons, Albert Jr (my father), Walter, Richard and Jack. All four served in the Army in WII, my dad was peacetime Army in 39 and was part f the DDay operation, Richard was wounded in the Hurtgen Forest offensive, Jack and walt were stateside but Jack was scheduled for the invasion of Japan. Richard is still alive at 92 while all of the others have passed. I am the oldest son of Albert and served four years in the Air Force and my brother Ron served four years in the Navy.. I was in Korea when they were asking for volunteers for Vietnam in 1963, which officially started Jan, 1965. I got out in Mar, 1965 without having to serve in Vietnam . Jan to Mar of 65 however qualified me for Vietnam era GI bill and paid for my education. My oldest boy Jack, Jr served four years in the Army, my youngest boy went to the US Naval Academy and is a career helicopter pilot and is eligible to retire in several years. He was in the Persian gulf flyin oil interdiction at Saddams time. And last but not least, my oldest daughter's son also went to the US Naval Academy and then served five years in the Navy. My brother's oldest boy served five years in the Navy and my youngest brother's son is a career man in the Air force. He is a crew chief on a fighter jet. Who knows what the future will bring as there were all kinds of nieces and nephews at the reunion. I hope none of them ever have to serve but given the world we live in that's probably not going to happen.
I give a large Memorial Day vote of appreciation and thanks for all of you and your family member who have served our country.
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I would think a stamp of the tomb of the unknown soldier would be an appropriate stamp.

I spent the weekend working on making album pages, mowing the yard (takes 2 hrs), and detailing my car (took 6 hrs). Our internet was out 13 hrs on Monday (area outage due to fiber getting cut) and Verizon wireless almost useless due to the load moving from broadband service being down.

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Gallipoli MIGHT have succeeded IF the commanding generals had pursued an aggressive landing from the beginning and hit the Turks BEFORE they were entrenched; had they done so, it might have gone very differently. Later valor on the part of the troops couldn't make up for initial timidity on the part of the generals.

Gallipoli also represents a strategy that the Allies would take throughout the war: seeing the western front was unwinnable, they kept trying to flank Axis, getting Italy, then Romania, then Greece involved. Each required substantial commitments of material to keep the new allies in the war; all became drains.

Eventually, materielle was so short that allies spent energy trying to retrieve it from the newly neutral Bolsheviks, to whom they had given immense stores to keep them in the war.

interestingly, Daniel Barlow devised an attack strategy against entrenched troops during the American Civil War; not dissimilar to the Napoleanic approach, in which rather than attacking across a broad front, a narrow point is pushed. The key, as with the broadh front, is to have reserves immediately available to hold the dearly purchased territory. I'll continue if anyone is interested.


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