Self removed - was responding to the above post - not making a political commentary.
"Epic disasters - 7000 to 12000 killed in the Galveston Hurricane of 1900. The Johnstown flood of 1929 killed 2200. Nothing compared to the Yellow River flood in China in 1931 that is estimated to have killed 800,000 to 4,000,000 people. "
After the news broke yesterday of that horrible crime, I logged on to stamporama and caught up on some discussion board posts and I checked out some new approval book offerings. I am now an ardent supporter of the "no politics" policy.
I'm going to side with my boy Ernie on this. He and I started off with a good relationship when I joined SoR 1.5 years ago that went sideways when I made some political comments (usually attempting to be humorous but often just "poking the bear").
It really isn't a good forum to debate, let alone have throw-downs and flame wars that lead nowhere but to bad feelings. There's lots of other sites to do that. I'm happy to indulge my "dark-side" there from now on and keep STAMPorama for STAMPS!
Who knows, maybe Ernie will eventually buy something from my Approvals Books again!
Dave.
Nothing wrong with acknowledging a tragic event; it's on nearly everyone's mind today.
I find myself in agreement with Ernie and lemaven on this. These discussions never go anywhere good. It's been recognized and appropriate comments have been posted. Maybe it's time to return to talking about stamps.
I'm glad that this thread has essentially subsided.
I think Ernie, Dave, and Christopher are exactly right: let's keep all things political off this board.
Hi Everyone;
I agree with Ernie and others, that it is nice to not see us all turning against each other, because that is where political discussions are destined for. I believe those who lost their lives would not want that to happen either. My prayers and thoughts are with them all.
I will save my darker Jedi side, for fighting Empire Stormtroopers and other scum of
the galaxy far far away....
TuskenRaider
I read in one of the news reports that this was the 307th incident in the US this year. I looked up the day of the year and ironically, this happened on day 307 of the year. So if it seems like these things happen every day, sadly they do.
I posted this on FaceBook and some jerk wanted to debate the point. I give up!
I heard on the radio someone refer to the event as the 307th since January 1, 2016 rather than 2017 but assumed they were wrong as it really doesn't make sense that there could be that many random shootings in that period of time. But then again, a quick look online from Wikipedia came up with the following:
Gun violence in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gun violence in the United States is a major national concern that results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens). These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms. ...
In 2010, 67% of all homicides in the U.S. were committed using a firearm. In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns. In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S. In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.
Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide. Approximately 1.4 million people have been killed using firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011, equivalent to a top 10 largest U.S. city in 2016, falling between the populations of San Antonio and Dallas, Texas.
Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed by guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed by guns. ...
... Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.
WOW! It is a bit sobering and, also, a bit telling that nearly two-thirds of all gun related deaths seem to have been suicide related so it does appear that gun ownership is most dangerous to the owner.
To those members who are in Texas and have family or friends in Sutherland Springs know that our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Stay safe.
re: Texas shooting
Self removed - was responding to the above post - not making a political commentary.
re: Texas shooting
"Epic disasters - 7000 to 12000 killed in the Galveston Hurricane of 1900. The Johnstown flood of 1929 killed 2200. Nothing compared to the Yellow River flood in China in 1931 that is estimated to have killed 800,000 to 4,000,000 people. "
re: Texas shooting
After the news broke yesterday of that horrible crime, I logged on to stamporama and caught up on some discussion board posts and I checked out some new approval book offerings. I am now an ardent supporter of the "no politics" policy.
re: Texas shooting
I'm going to side with my boy Ernie on this. He and I started off with a good relationship when I joined SoR 1.5 years ago that went sideways when I made some political comments (usually attempting to be humorous but often just "poking the bear").
It really isn't a good forum to debate, let alone have throw-downs and flame wars that lead nowhere but to bad feelings. There's lots of other sites to do that. I'm happy to indulge my "dark-side" there from now on and keep STAMPorama for STAMPS!
Who knows, maybe Ernie will eventually buy something from my Approvals Books again!
Dave.
re: Texas shooting
Nothing wrong with acknowledging a tragic event; it's on nearly everyone's mind today.
I find myself in agreement with Ernie and lemaven on this. These discussions never go anywhere good. It's been recognized and appropriate comments have been posted. Maybe it's time to return to talking about stamps.
re: Texas shooting
I'm glad that this thread has essentially subsided.
I think Ernie, Dave, and Christopher are exactly right: let's keep all things political off this board.
re: Texas shooting
Hi Everyone;
I agree with Ernie and others, that it is nice to not see us all turning against each other, because that is where political discussions are destined for. I believe those who lost their lives would not want that to happen either. My prayers and thoughts are with them all.
I will save my darker Jedi side, for fighting Empire Stormtroopers and other scum of
the galaxy far far away....
TuskenRaider
re: Texas shooting
I read in one of the news reports that this was the 307th incident in the US this year. I looked up the day of the year and ironically, this happened on day 307 of the year. So if it seems like these things happen every day, sadly they do.
I posted this on FaceBook and some jerk wanted to debate the point. I give up!
re: Texas shooting
I heard on the radio someone refer to the event as the 307th since January 1, 2016 rather than 2017 but assumed they were wrong as it really doesn't make sense that there could be that many random shootings in that period of time. But then again, a quick look online from Wikipedia came up with the following:
Gun violence in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gun violence in the United States is a major national concern that results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 U.S. citizens), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 U.S. citizens). These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides, 21,175 suicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent". Of the 2,596,993 total deaths in the US in 2013, 1.3% were related to firearms. ...
In 2010, 67% of all homicides in the U.S. were committed using a firearm. In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns. In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S. In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun; another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.
Firearms were used to kill 13,286 people in the U.S. in 2015, excluding suicide. Approximately 1.4 million people have been killed using firearms in the U.S. between 1968 and 2011, equivalent to a top 10 largest U.S. city in 2016, falling between the populations of San Antonio and Dallas, Texas.
Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, the U.S. had 82 percent of all gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed by guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed by guns. ...
... Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media, mass shootings in the US account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths and the frequency of these events steadily declined between 1994 and 2007, rising between 2007 and 2013.
WOW! It is a bit sobering and, also, a bit telling that nearly two-thirds of all gun related deaths seem to have been suicide related so it does appear that gun ownership is most dangerous to the owner.