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ikeyPikey
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02 Aug 2018
09:44:39pm
I'd like to put the "Disappointed" thread into a broader context by describing a few of my own ethical lapses.

For example, the parking-challenged branch of the county library where I to go to pickup books that I order online (from any of the sixty-odd branches thereof) is right next door to a parking-endowed McDonald's.

MickeyDee's parking is strictly for customers only, while eating inside, etc.

But I only need the space for two minutes - and I eat there a few times each year - and my visiting grandchildren make it there most every day that they are in town - and I know that if they ever denied me parking I would never eat there again - so I calculate that it is to their advantage that I extend my use of their parking lot to include visits to the library next door.

Worse, the parking-challenged branch of the county library where I to go to return books (don't ask why they are different branches) has a fire hydrant smack out front ...

I *do* check for nearby fires (looking for the plume and sniffing the air), and I do take a listen for sirens that might be coming my way, and I brazenly do a 360 for meter maids et al, and I do run inside and stuff my book into the Return Robot, grab my receipt, and walk briskly back to my car.

Why briskly? So that I do not set a bad example for the other children.

Q/ What are a few of your self-allowed ethical lapses?

Q/ Do they inform your opinion of senders who fail to declare philatelic merchandise in their shipments?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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03 Aug 2018
12:18:22pm
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At one local McD, they had a towing policy and that invited very overzealous towing companies. They watched and if you did not go into McD your car would be towed in short order. This type of policy is usually caused by not enough parking for customers. The same applies to being a paying customer to use the restrooms in some locations. In the above case, it was not completely true since it was in a shopping center parking lot and only a few steps extra but it may discourage some.


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03 Aug 2018
04:01:26pm
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Poor McD's is going to get a complex if they read this discussion topic...hopefully SOR people aren't just targeting them to be "ethically-challenged" with impunity.

On my way to the cottage a couple weeks ago, we stopped at a McD's and I ran into the washroom. As I was heading back to my car an employee said, "Those washrooms are for customers only". I replied, "It's ok - I bought lunch from another McDonalds, I'm just returning it to your store".

On the other hand, I only use Canadian stamps for postage, so fully comply with the USPS rules.

Cheers, Dave.

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03 Aug 2018
04:53:08pm
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BTW, I have used the rest room at fast food places and not purchased anything.

I would not park in a handicap spot even if I was driving a car with handicapped plates. I have seen this more than once. These are the same types that will park in front a grocery store (usually marked fire lane) to stop in o get something. The one time I was driving one I dropped the inlaws at the door and parked in a normal spot.

It is not just ethics but being considerate of others as we share this planet. Of course I realize some are not even aware they need to be considerate.

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03 Aug 2018
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"BTW, I have used the rest room at fast food places and not purchased anything.

I would not park in a handicap spot even if I was driving a car with handicapped plates. I have seen this more than once. These are the same types that will park in front a grocery store (usually marked fire lane) to stop in o get something. The one time I was driving one I dropped the inlaws at the door and parked in a normal spot. "



I went into a McDonalds and headed for the restroom. One of their goobs accosted me and said the restrooms were for customers only. I turned on him and asked if was against company policy for customers to wash their hands before eating. He backed off. I used the restroom, washed my hands and then ordered my lunch. While eating, I noticed a message on the receipt asking for feedback, so I emailed them a message that this location doesn't allow customers to wash hands prior to eating! I never got a response.

I hate people who misuse Handicap spaces. At the last hobby show I went to, as I was walking up to the door, a car sailed right into the Handicap spot next to the door. Two able bodied guys got out of the car. The placard was for the drivers wife. And it is against the law.

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03 Aug 2018
05:44:10pm
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I have handicap plates but do not park in handicap spaces on non-dialysis or non-chemo days (days that I do not think I’ll hit the ground trying to make it to the front door). I also never park in the handicap spaces at the Dialysis Center because some genius decided to only put the minimum number of handicap spaces in the parking lot. (Everyone there is handicapped!)

I am guilty of using hinges on modern, inexpensive mint stamps.
I am guilty of reading old correspondence that is not addressed to me.
I am guilty of throwing far too much food away.
I am guilty of telling employees that a layoff was coming after the Board of Directors had directed us to remain silent (I dissented at the BOD meeting but was voted down.)
I am guilty of burning the fireplace on cold nights when I have a more efficient, less polluting way to keep warm.
I am guilty of using plastic drinking straws on occasion (I am germophobic.)
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03 Aug 2018
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03 Aug 2018
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"I am guilty of burning the fireplace on cold nights when I have a more efficient, less polluting way to keep warm"



There is nothing like a real fire to come home to on a cold winters night.

I just love toasting my tootsies while watching the tv.

I don't feel guilty as I get off cuts of wood from a local factory, which if I didn't burn would end up in landfill.
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Stampme

03 Aug 2018
08:51:44pm
re: My Ethical Lapses

Each person decides which law or regulation to ignore or stretch its definition to include personal allowances for scofflaw behavior.

What I can't stand is when said person gets busted by the authorities and screams aloud any number of excuses that surely must exclude said person from the consequences rather than quietly admit to the offense and take one's punishment with dignity.


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04 Aug 2018
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Treat everybody the way that you would like to be treated is the way I try to live.

However "to err is human".

It would be a very boring, boring world if we were all the same, cloned from a "perfect" being.

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06 Aug 2018
09:13:06pm

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Today's ethical lapse... an eBay seller who charged me $3.50 postage sent me an already used 9x12 envelope, previously mailed to him but not postmarked with less than a dollar postage on it. End was already opened and sealed with tape. My address was on a label over his address.

Hmmmm...

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07 Aug 2018
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I cannot condone his postal charges, but as long as the envelope was clean, especially on the inside, I see no reason to object.

It is called re-cycling.

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07 Aug 2018
12:12:31pm
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My wife recycles any kind of envelope to send her yarn/knitting sales out. It'll save a tree or two eventually. No postage recycled of course because who uses stamps?

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07 Aug 2018
04:39:20pm
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When I was about 11 years old, I had a good friend I used to hang out with a few doors down. One day we were playing around and he was playing around with a rubber band. When it was time to go home, I left, with his rubber band in my pocket. I don't even remember how it got there. A ways down the sidewalk he came out of the house yelling at me that I had stolen his rubber band. I pretended not to hear him and continued home at the same unhurried pace. Even then I had no idea why I stole it. There were dozens of them lying around my house.

The episode did not end our friendship, which was ended when his family moved away.

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07 Aug 2018
09:50:26pm
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I sneak food into the movie theater.


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07 Aug 2018
10:31:52pm
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I must come clean..... In 1974 me and my girl friend allowed our two friends to hide in the trunk of my 1964 Impala while going to the Starlight Drive In, a good time was had by all.Big Grin

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08 Aug 2018
04:16:39am
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I ripped the "Do not remove" tag off my mattress.

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08 Aug 2018
09:11:56pm
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"I ripped the "Do not remove" tag off my mattress."



It's legal to rip it off your own mattress.

I snuck into Michael's house and ripped the tags off of ALL of Mr. Numbers' mattresses!
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09 Aug 2018
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I ate chocolate late last night before turning in !Sad

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09 Aug 2018
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02 Aug 2018
09:44:39pm

I'd like to put the "Disappointed" thread into a broader context by describing a few of my own ethical lapses.

For example, the parking-challenged branch of the county library where I to go to pickup books that I order online (from any of the sixty-odd branches thereof) is right next door to a parking-endowed McDonald's.

MickeyDee's parking is strictly for customers only, while eating inside, etc.

But I only need the space for two minutes - and I eat there a few times each year - and my visiting grandchildren make it there most every day that they are in town - and I know that if they ever denied me parking I would never eat there again - so I calculate that it is to their advantage that I extend my use of their parking lot to include visits to the library next door.

Worse, the parking-challenged branch of the county library where I to go to return books (don't ask why they are different branches) has a fire hydrant smack out front ...

I *do* check for nearby fires (looking for the plume and sniffing the air), and I do take a listen for sirens that might be coming my way, and I brazenly do a 360 for meter maids et al, and I do run inside and stuff my book into the Return Robot, grab my receipt, and walk briskly back to my car.

Why briskly? So that I do not set a bad example for the other children.

Q/ What are a few of your self-allowed ethical lapses?

Q/ Do they inform your opinion of senders who fail to declare philatelic merchandise in their shipments?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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03 Aug 2018
12:18:22pm

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At one local McD, they had a towing policy and that invited very overzealous towing companies. They watched and if you did not go into McD your car would be towed in short order. This type of policy is usually caused by not enough parking for customers. The same applies to being a paying customer to use the restrooms in some locations. In the above case, it was not completely true since it was in a shopping center parking lot and only a few steps extra but it may discourage some.


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03 Aug 2018
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Poor McD's is going to get a complex if they read this discussion topic...hopefully SOR people aren't just targeting them to be "ethically-challenged" with impunity.

On my way to the cottage a couple weeks ago, we stopped at a McD's and I ran into the washroom. As I was heading back to my car an employee said, "Those washrooms are for customers only". I replied, "It's ok - I bought lunch from another McDonalds, I'm just returning it to your store".

On the other hand, I only use Canadian stamps for postage, so fully comply with the USPS rules.

Cheers, Dave.

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03 Aug 2018
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BTW, I have used the rest room at fast food places and not purchased anything.

I would not park in a handicap spot even if I was driving a car with handicapped plates. I have seen this more than once. These are the same types that will park in front a grocery store (usually marked fire lane) to stop in o get something. The one time I was driving one I dropped the inlaws at the door and parked in a normal spot.

It is not just ethics but being considerate of others as we share this planet. Of course I realize some are not even aware they need to be considerate.

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03 Aug 2018
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"BTW, I have used the rest room at fast food places and not purchased anything.

I would not park in a handicap spot even if I was driving a car with handicapped plates. I have seen this more than once. These are the same types that will park in front a grocery store (usually marked fire lane) to stop in o get something. The one time I was driving one I dropped the inlaws at the door and parked in a normal spot. "



I went into a McDonalds and headed for the restroom. One of their goobs accosted me and said the restrooms were for customers only. I turned on him and asked if was against company policy for customers to wash their hands before eating. He backed off. I used the restroom, washed my hands and then ordered my lunch. While eating, I noticed a message on the receipt asking for feedback, so I emailed them a message that this location doesn't allow customers to wash hands prior to eating! I never got a response.

I hate people who misuse Handicap spaces. At the last hobby show I went to, as I was walking up to the door, a car sailed right into the Handicap spot next to the door. Two able bodied guys got out of the car. The placard was for the drivers wife. And it is against the law.

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I have handicap plates but do not park in handicap spaces on non-dialysis or non-chemo days (days that I do not think I’ll hit the ground trying to make it to the front door). I also never park in the handicap spaces at the Dialysis Center because some genius decided to only put the minimum number of handicap spaces in the parking lot. (Everyone there is handicapped!)

I am guilty of using hinges on modern, inexpensive mint stamps.
I am guilty of reading old correspondence that is not addressed to me.
I am guilty of throwing far too much food away.
I am guilty of telling employees that a layoff was coming after the Board of Directors had directed us to remain silent (I dissented at the BOD meeting but was voted down.)
I am guilty of burning the fireplace on cold nights when I have a more efficient, less polluting way to keep warm.
I am guilty of using plastic drinking straws on occasion (I am germophobic.)
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"I am guilty of burning the fireplace on cold nights when I have a more efficient, less polluting way to keep warm"



There is nothing like a real fire to come home to on a cold winters night.

I just love toasting my tootsies while watching the tv.

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03 Aug 2018
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re: My Ethical Lapses

Each person decides which law or regulation to ignore or stretch its definition to include personal allowances for scofflaw behavior.

What I can't stand is when said person gets busted by the authorities and screams aloud any number of excuses that surely must exclude said person from the consequences rather than quietly admit to the offense and take one's punishment with dignity.


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Treat everybody the way that you would like to be treated is the way I try to live.

However "to err is human".

It would be a very boring, boring world if we were all the same, cloned from a "perfect" being.

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06 Aug 2018
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Today's ethical lapse... an eBay seller who charged me $3.50 postage sent me an already used 9x12 envelope, previously mailed to him but not postmarked with less than a dollar postage on it. End was already opened and sealed with tape. My address was on a label over his address.

Hmmmm...

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I cannot condone his postal charges, but as long as the envelope was clean, especially on the inside, I see no reason to object.

It is called re-cycling.

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07 Aug 2018
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My wife recycles any kind of envelope to send her yarn/knitting sales out. It'll save a tree or two eventually. No postage recycled of course because who uses stamps?

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07 Aug 2018
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When I was about 11 years old, I had a good friend I used to hang out with a few doors down. One day we were playing around and he was playing around with a rubber band. When it was time to go home, I left, with his rubber band in my pocket. I don't even remember how it got there. A ways down the sidewalk he came out of the house yelling at me that I had stolen his rubber band. I pretended not to hear him and continued home at the same unhurried pace. Even then I had no idea why I stole it. There were dozens of them lying around my house.

The episode did not end our friendship, which was ended when his family moved away.

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07 Aug 2018
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I sneak food into the movie theater.


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07 Aug 2018
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I must come clean..... In 1974 me and my girl friend allowed our two friends to hide in the trunk of my 1964 Impala while going to the Starlight Drive In, a good time was had by all.Big Grin

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08 Aug 2018
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I ripped the "Do not remove" tag off my mattress.

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08 Aug 2018
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re: My Ethical Lapses

"I ripped the "Do not remove" tag off my mattress."



It's legal to rip it off your own mattress.

I snuck into Michael's house and ripped the tags off of ALL of Mr. Numbers' mattresses!
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09 Aug 2018
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I ate chocolate late last night before turning in !Sad

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