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This is the first time I have seen this type of label / stamp. It would fit in nice to any Canadian revenue collection as collateral material.
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Chimo
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Never seen any of these before and did a bunch of creative Googling with very little luck. The site below might get you somewhere, but I have my doubts. Is it considered wrong for one forum to site another? If this is not done please do not access the link !!!
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50242
There seems to be similar stuff there but nothing exactly the same. There is a book out there on Canadian revenue stamps; I'm sure one of the members has a copy. The only Canadian revenue stamps I collect are those from Newfoundland and I got into those almost by mistake. I was told by someone that collecting Canadian revenue stamps is a huge job.
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Here's a related item in my collection:
I'm attracted to ephemera that is thematic with my career/occupation. I frequently use this image as a divider in presentations - when I want to shift the focus or direction.
James (Tama Jim) Wilson, an Iowa boy like me, was the longest-serving secretary of the agency. His biography:
"Born on August 16, 1835, in Ayrshire, Scotland. He attended Iowa (now Grinnell) College. He engaged in farming, devoting special attention to livestock feeding, and raising purebred animals. He was elected to Iowa House of Representatives and became its speaker. This prepared Wilson for membership in the United States House of Representatives, 1873-77 and 1883-85. He taught at Iowa Agricultural College and was director of the experiment station. Wilson was Secretary of Agriculture from March 6, 1897, to March 5, 1913, the longest term of any Cabinet member and the only one to serve under three Presidents. He wrote for various farm journals and was editor of the Agricultural Digest. Wilson died August 26, 1920."
-Paul
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A receipt including tax payment for goods in London, UK in 1959.
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A dealer once told me that sooner or later everything comes around...in my experience i find that to be true...usually when you least expect it...like hidden in the pages of an old album.
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I had a look in The Canadian Revenue Stamp Catalogue by Erling Van Dam, and there is nothing like a meat inspection stamp mentioned for Canada. The is everything else mentioned from wine tax labels, tea packaging labels to Lock tax labels.
Probably quite scarce as they are supposed to be used once and destroyed.
If it is anything like the Tea Tax stamps it would be quite valuable, but just my guess.
Cheers,
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Thanks for the info - I'll accept that they might be scarce but I would be sceptical as to valuable, perhaps more of an oddity. They seem to be serially numbered. I have another one that is F 88802. I have seen two images of others both beginning with F but numbered approximately 800000.
From what I can tell they seem to sell for a $2-$10 in good condition which mine are not but I would be curious as to what year they date to.
Does anyone have a copy of Drummond's Catalog of Philatelic Miscellany, Part Two by James N. Drummond? There seems to be listings for the meat stamps in it. Thanks for the link to that post Harvey.
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In reply to Philb's post - the German Colony stamps as shown, are German mourning stamps as put out for the loss of their colonies owing to WW1. They were a form of propaganda, in that the German public were encouraged to place them on their envelope every time they posted a letter etc.
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I have only ever seen one which was German New Guinea mourning stamp and unfortunately the German gentleman would not sell it to me. He told me about their use, but I have since read about them in some publication.
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That should read only seen one envelope.
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I always like to look up these old places.
Greshams was an old Publishing company now defunct apparently according to Univ of Glasgow archives
Bookmark:https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/data/gb248-ugd061/10/1
The Gresham Publishing Co was founded in 1898 by Blackie & Son Ltd , publishers, Bishopbriggs, Glasgow, Scotland. Blackie & Son had started subscription selling in the late 1870s but by the 1890s the trade was failing. The subscription department was brought under new management in 1893 and the trade started to pick up again, and an instalment system of payment ran parallel with the traditional subscription method for a time. The company sold works such as Kerner's Natural History of Plants and Davis's Natural History of Animals , both of which sold well. The Gresham Publishing Co was formed in order to take over the subscription trade of Blackie & Son Ltd and also to introduce the publication of scientific and technical books. Volumes were issued at intervals of 3 months and were paid for on delivery. Titles included The New Popular Encyclopaedia (1900) and the Gresham Dictionary and Gresham Encyclopaedia (1910s).
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I recently found this odd piece from the Dominican Republic cancelled in Puerto Rico...
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Nice piece!
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Very intriguing! I wonder where it was going - maybe San Juan was the destination? Thanks for sharing @Linus. (oops tagging doesn't work here, does it?)
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I am sure many of you long standing collectors have encountered many unusual inclusions in the lots you acquire. Since I don't get the opportunity to rifle through those sorts of boxes very often I haven't come upon that many curious things. Recently I got the pictured item which i would think is a bit out of the norm. Does anyone collect such things? Do you have to buy a side of beef to get a decent used copy?
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This is the first time I have seen this type of label / stamp. It would fit in nice to any Canadian revenue collection as collateral material.
Happy collecting
Chimo
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Never seen any of these before and did a bunch of creative Googling with very little luck. The site below might get you somewhere, but I have my doubts. Is it considered wrong for one forum to site another? If this is not done please do not access the link !!!
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50242
There seems to be similar stuff there but nothing exactly the same. There is a book out there on Canadian revenue stamps; I'm sure one of the members has a copy. The only Canadian revenue stamps I collect are those from Newfoundland and I got into those almost by mistake. I was told by someone that collecting Canadian revenue stamps is a huge job.
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Here's a related item in my collection:
I'm attracted to ephemera that is thematic with my career/occupation. I frequently use this image as a divider in presentations - when I want to shift the focus or direction.
James (Tama Jim) Wilson, an Iowa boy like me, was the longest-serving secretary of the agency. His biography:
"Born on August 16, 1835, in Ayrshire, Scotland. He attended Iowa (now Grinnell) College. He engaged in farming, devoting special attention to livestock feeding, and raising purebred animals. He was elected to Iowa House of Representatives and became its speaker. This prepared Wilson for membership in the United States House of Representatives, 1873-77 and 1883-85. He taught at Iowa Agricultural College and was director of the experiment station. Wilson was Secretary of Agriculture from March 6, 1897, to March 5, 1913, the longest term of any Cabinet member and the only one to serve under three Presidents. He wrote for various farm journals and was editor of the Agricultural Digest. Wilson died August 26, 1920."
-Paul
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A receipt including tax payment for goods in London, UK in 1959.
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A dealer once told me that sooner or later everything comes around...in my experience i find that to be true...usually when you least expect it...like hidden in the pages of an old album.
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And now for a rousing chorus of "Tim Finnegan's Wake"...
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I had a look in The Canadian Revenue Stamp Catalogue by Erling Van Dam, and there is nothing like a meat inspection stamp mentioned for Canada. The is everything else mentioned from wine tax labels, tea packaging labels to Lock tax labels.
Probably quite scarce as they are supposed to be used once and destroyed.
If it is anything like the Tea Tax stamps it would be quite valuable, but just my guess.
Cheers,
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Thanks for the info - I'll accept that they might be scarce but I would be sceptical as to valuable, perhaps more of an oddity. They seem to be serially numbered. I have another one that is F 88802. I have seen two images of others both beginning with F but numbered approximately 800000.
From what I can tell they seem to sell for a $2-$10 in good condition which mine are not but I would be curious as to what year they date to.
Does anyone have a copy of Drummond's Catalog of Philatelic Miscellany, Part Two by James N. Drummond? There seems to be listings for the meat stamps in it. Thanks for the link to that post Harvey.
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In reply to Philb's post - the German Colony stamps as shown, are German mourning stamps as put out for the loss of their colonies owing to WW1. They were a form of propaganda, in that the German public were encouraged to place them on their envelope every time they posted a letter etc.
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I have only ever seen one which was German New Guinea mourning stamp and unfortunately the German gentleman would not sell it to me. He told me about their use, but I have since read about them in some publication.
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That should read only seen one envelope.
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I always like to look up these old places.
Greshams was an old Publishing company now defunct apparently according to Univ of Glasgow archives
Bookmark:https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/data/gb248-ugd061/10/1
The Gresham Publishing Co was founded in 1898 by Blackie & Son Ltd , publishers, Bishopbriggs, Glasgow, Scotland. Blackie & Son had started subscription selling in the late 1870s but by the 1890s the trade was failing. The subscription department was brought under new management in 1893 and the trade started to pick up again, and an instalment system of payment ran parallel with the traditional subscription method for a time. The company sold works such as Kerner's Natural History of Plants and Davis's Natural History of Animals , both of which sold well. The Gresham Publishing Co was formed in order to take over the subscription trade of Blackie & Son Ltd and also to introduce the publication of scientific and technical books. Volumes were issued at intervals of 3 months and were paid for on delivery. Titles included The New Popular Encyclopaedia (1900) and the Gresham Dictionary and Gresham Encyclopaedia (1910s).
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I recently found this odd piece from the Dominican Republic cancelled in Puerto Rico...
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Very intriguing! I wonder where it was going - maybe San Juan was the destination? Thanks for sharing @Linus. (oops tagging doesn't work here, does it?)
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