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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Stamp Ranting

 

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Lanuii
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22 Aug 2020
02:25:33pm
One of my friends was ranting about his favorite hobby (Stamp Collecting). He rant for hours & I don't know why. Maybe he had a bad day at work on that day. Anyway, I listened to him patiently. He complained about "Time Consuming" and I think this the root of his rant. According to him, time consuming breaks his spirit. Here's a list of his complaints regarding time consuming:

* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year.
* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description.
* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps.
* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable in the market.

* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive stamps.
* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known it's impossible.
* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were held in his town.
* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two people show up.

Does any of you ever experienced these frustrations ? Thinking
As for me, I think time is needed for this hobby.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

22 Aug 2020
02:30:51pm

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*Time consuming for you listening to the rant!!

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22 Aug 2020
02:52:14pm

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If you think your friend is serious about his frustrations with the hobby, suggest that he consider changing his approach to stamp collecting. In the end it is his collection and there are no rules as to what you have to do with your collection. If it isn't fun don't do it.

Regards ... Tim.

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22 Aug 2020
03:39:20pm
re: Stamp Ranting

"* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year."


Set a cut off date and do not collect stamps beyond that

"* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description. "


No need to index stamps, just enjoy them.

"* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps. "


Do not collect countries which give you heart burn.

"* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable in the market. "


Develop a want list, set up a ‘saved’ eBay search for it, they will let you know when one gets listed.

"* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive stamps. "


No need to argue, you cannot control or change USPS you only fully control what goes on between your two ears.

"* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known it's impossible. "


Narrow the focus and breadth of your collecting.

"* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were held in his town. "


No need to travel, the hobby can be easily enjoyed online.

"* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two people show up. "


Our small town club has 90 members and we are finalizing support for remote members including Zoom meeting for both presentations and club auctions. Consider remote memberships which support ‘location-challenged members’.

In my opinion philately has never been so easy and less time consuming due to the infusion of technology.
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22 Aug 2020
05:33:46pm
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"Time consuming". A hobby is supposed to be that. Consume time to help us forget about the crap.

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22 Aug 2020
06:02:48pm
re: Stamp Ranting

In another hobby forum, it was said....

"Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy."

Michael Stoops, Meguiar's

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

22 Aug 2020
06:17:34pm

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22 Aug 2020
07:10:19pm
re: Stamp Ranting

Much of his difficulty is self inflicted.
He seems to not comprehend the meme;
"It is your hobby, they are your albums
and stamps. Do what makes you happy."


* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year.
Why ?

I do not need a box to tell me where to put a stamp.
If I have an open set mounted, I leave a space and
occasionally may jot down something in the space in
pencil.
If I reach for an album for Australia or New Zealand,
the name is on the binder and there is not any need
to remind me what I have in my hand with a country's
name on the upper edge of every page. (Unless I doze
off in my chair.)

A ream of blank pages, slightly heavier stock than used
for letters works well and it seldom takes much time
to write "1997", or "98" at the top.

* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description.

I have often noticed collectors who seem to spend a gross
amount of time assembling and tracking what they have with
detailed spread sheets. If I open my Norway album and find
a blank space and no example of some offered stamp, I con-
clude that I do not have one. If there is one there smiling
at me, I have the answer.


* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps.
That's a puzzlement of his own making.

* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable
in the market.

Better to survey what is being offered for sale, or auction,
and just open the appropriate album to the appropriate page.
Done !

* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive
stamps.

Another puzzlement, What is to argue about, the sticky side
goes down, the image side does not.

* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known,
it's impossible.

Then for God's sake, why worry about it? try to enjoy what
you have, and what you can possibility can find and afford.
There seems to be only a single British Guiana Magenta and
it will never be within reach. A really nice photocopy will
do if things like that are that annoying.

* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were
held in his town.

There are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in
the United States. I imagine he would complain if every one
had a stamp Expo each decade.

* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two
people show up.

Now that can be remedied by taking an active part in that
stamp club and trying to discover why there is such a lack
of interest. Step one would be to ask the existing members
what they prefer in a good stamp club. I've dropped out of
clubs that put on boring programs.
A sailor's advice would be "Stop Cursing the lack or wind
and breakout the oars."


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BrightonPete

22 Aug 2020
07:27:58pm
re: Stamp Ranting

Time consuming is what stamp collecting is! I haven't been bored since the pandemic started up months ago. Researching, designing, proofing & printing album pages takes up far too much time. But then I get what I want. Buy pre-made albums if it is too tedious!

With stamp collecting it forces you to slow down and appreciate what's out there. Just having it is fun. If you find it tedious & time consuming, maybe you need a new hobby, and arguing with the post office is pointless, why even bother.

Just sit back and enjoy what you have. I know I do, and am thankful for it!

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22 Aug 2020
09:53:01pm
re: Stamp Ranting

Thanks for the advice, folks.
I think I'll take him to a stamp psychiatrist. Hopefully he'll return to normal after an intensive counseling or else I'll inherit his weird collection Crying

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22 Aug 2020
10:46:48pm

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Tell your friend we is all time consumers..i never heard a collector complain about collecting before.

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23 Aug 2020
08:11:28am
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"i never heard a collector complain about collecting before"



Neither have I!


In my humble opinion, if one complains about something that much,

it has become a dreaded job - not a pleasurable hobby.At Wits End


Why continue to do something freely that you continuously complain about?? Surprise



Get a new hobby or change what you are doing!Silly

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23 Aug 2020
09:12:07am
re: Stamp Ranting

"I think I'll take him to a stamp psychiatrist. Hopefully he'll return to normal after an intensive counseling or else I'll inherit his weird collection "



Please don't do that...........

Maybe you will get another list of his complaints regarding time consuming (at the shrink)

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

23 Aug 2020
09:14:22am

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Aye!

But we all know someone who moans and complains about everything. Whether it be their work, their car, the service they get at a shop, the supermarket they go to.

There are ones like that in every organisation.

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APS #213005

23 Aug 2020
10:41:03am
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"There are ones like that in every organisation"




Yup!!
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Harvey

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23 Aug 2020
11:41:10am
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If you resent the time you spend on the hobby then you should quit doing it and find another way to spend your time. At times I find I don't have the patience to work on my stamp collection - I go to bed and read a book!!!

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08 Sep 2020
03:20:50pm
re: Stamp Ranting

Truthfully, the last time I heard people "complain" about stamp collecting like that was in the... the... early 1980's? Whenever it was that all the tiny island nations started issuing 120 stamps a year, and British Commonwealth collectors hadn't yet figured out that they could just collect "Up to 1975" or whatever.

I can only echo what others have said: Hobbies are supposed to be time consuming — the entire POINT is that a hobby is "something to keep you occupied in your spare time" — and if it's no longer FUN, stop doing it!

I can empathize, though... I made the difficult choice to "end" my Denmark collection at 1990, when Danish post offices started closing and local town cancels went away, in favor of sprayed on "regional mail center" cancels.

But, to each their own!

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floradd

02 Dec 2020
01:43:55pm
re: Stamp Ranting

I started stamp collecting at age 72, so I knew I could never have a comprehensive collection. I decided to collect one country (a former British colony, b/c I liked the stamps). specialized covers from another, and respectful stamps of indigenous peoples from around the world. After reading your friend's rants, I am so glad I limited myself.

Buying the stamps is super fun, cataloging and recordkeeping not so much. Good luck to your friend. He got some very good advice from some of the other posters here.

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02 Dec 2020
10:08:55pm

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Floradd, thats the beauty of it..collect what means something to you...we do not have to follow the crowd.

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22 Aug 2020
02:25:33pm

One of my friends was ranting about his favorite hobby (Stamp Collecting). He rant for hours & I don't know why. Maybe he had a bad day at work on that day. Anyway, I listened to him patiently. He complained about "Time Consuming" and I think this the root of his rant. According to him, time consuming breaks his spirit. Here's a list of his complaints regarding time consuming:

* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year.
* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description.
* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps.
* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable in the market.

* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive stamps.
* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known it's impossible.
* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were held in his town.
* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two people show up.

Does any of you ever experienced these frustrations ? Thinking
As for me, I think time is needed for this hobby.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
22 Aug 2020
02:30:51pm

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*Time consuming for you listening to the rant!!

Laughing

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Tim
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22 Aug 2020
02:52:14pm

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re: Stamp Ranting

If you think your friend is serious about his frustrations with the hobby, suggest that he consider changing his approach to stamp collecting. In the end it is his collection and there are no rules as to what you have to do with your collection. If it isn't fun don't do it.

Regards ... Tim.

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22 Aug 2020
03:39:20pm

re: Stamp Ranting

"* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year."


Set a cut off date and do not collect stamps beyond that

"* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description. "


No need to index stamps, just enjoy them.

"* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps. "


Do not collect countries which give you heart burn.

"* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable in the market. "


Develop a want list, set up a ‘saved’ eBay search for it, they will let you know when one gets listed.

"* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive stamps. "


No need to argue, you cannot control or change USPS you only fully control what goes on between your two ears.

"* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known it's impossible. "


Narrow the focus and breadth of your collecting.

"* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were held in his town. "


No need to travel, the hobby can be easily enjoyed online.

"* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two people show up. "


Our small town club has 90 members and we are finalizing support for remote members including Zoom meeting for both presentations and club auctions. Consider remote memberships which support ‘location-challenged members’.

In my opinion philately has never been so easy and less time consuming due to the infusion of technology.
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22 Aug 2020
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"Time consuming". A hobby is supposed to be that. Consume time to help us forget about the crap.

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22 Aug 2020
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re: Stamp Ranting

In another hobby forum, it was said....

"Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy."

Michael Stoops, Meguiar's

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22 Aug 2020
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re: Stamp Ranting

Much of his difficulty is self inflicted.
He seems to not comprehend the meme;
"It is your hobby, they are your albums
and stamps. Do what makes you happy."


* Time consuming printing pages for albums every year.
Why ?

I do not need a box to tell me where to put a stamp.
If I have an open set mounted, I leave a space and
occasionally may jot down something in the space in
pencil.
If I reach for an album for Australia or New Zealand,
the name is on the binder and there is not any need
to remind me what I have in my hand with a country's
name on the upper edge of every page. (Unless I doze
off in my chair.)

A ream of blank pages, slightly heavier stock than used
for letters works well and it seldom takes much time
to write "1997", or "98" at the top.

* Time consuming indexing every stamps with description.

I have often noticed collectors who seem to spend a gross
amount of time assembling and tracking what they have with
detailed spread sheets. If I open my Norway album and find
a blank space and no example of some offered stamp, I con-
clude that I do not have one. If there is one there smiling
at me, I have the answer.


* Time consuming ID & translate foreign stamps.
That's a puzzlement of his own making.

* Time consuming locating a particular stamp, but unavailable
in the market.

Better to survey what is being offered for sale, or auction,
and just open the appropriate album to the appropriate page.
Done !

* Time consuming arguing with postal office about Self Adhesive
stamps.

Another puzzlement, What is to argue about, the sticky side
goes down, the image side does not.

* Time consuming collecting every stamp in the world known,
it's impossible.

Then for God's sake, why worry about it? try to enjoy what
you have, and what you can possibility can find and afford.
There seems to be only a single British Guiana Magenta and
it will never be within reach. A really nice photocopy will
do if things like that are that annoying.

* Time consuming traveling to a stamp expo since none were
held in his town.

There are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in
the United States. I imagine he would complain if every one
had a stamp Expo each decade.

* Time consuming attending a stamp club with only one or two
people show up.

Now that can be remedied by taking an active part in that
stamp club and trying to discover why there is such a lack
of interest. Step one would be to ask the existing members
what they prefer in a good stamp club. I've dropped out of
clubs that put on boring programs.
A sailor's advice would be "Stop Cursing the lack or wind
and breakout the oars."


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22 Aug 2020
07:27:58pm

re: Stamp Ranting

Time consuming is what stamp collecting is! I haven't been bored since the pandemic started up months ago. Researching, designing, proofing & printing album pages takes up far too much time. But then I get what I want. Buy pre-made albums if it is too tedious!

With stamp collecting it forces you to slow down and appreciate what's out there. Just having it is fun. If you find it tedious & time consuming, maybe you need a new hobby, and arguing with the post office is pointless, why even bother.

Just sit back and enjoy what you have. I know I do, and am thankful for it!

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22 Aug 2020
09:53:01pm

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Thanks for the advice, folks.
I think I'll take him to a stamp psychiatrist. Hopefully he'll return to normal after an intensive counseling or else I'll inherit his weird collection Crying

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22 Aug 2020
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23 Aug 2020
08:11:28am

re: Stamp Ranting

"i never heard a collector complain about collecting before"



Neither have I!


In my humble opinion, if one complains about something that much,

it has become a dreaded job - not a pleasurable hobby.At Wits End


Why continue to do something freely that you continuously complain about?? Surprise



Get a new hobby or change what you are doing!Silly

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23 Aug 2020
09:12:07am

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"I think I'll take him to a stamp psychiatrist. Hopefully he'll return to normal after an intensive counseling or else I'll inherit his weird collection "



Please don't do that...........

Maybe you will get another list of his complaints regarding time consuming (at the shrink)

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23 Aug 2020
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Aye!

But we all know someone who moans and complains about everything. Whether it be their work, their car, the service they get at a shop, the supermarket they go to.

There are ones like that in every organisation.

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23 Aug 2020
10:41:03am

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"There are ones like that in every organisation"




Yup!!
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23 Aug 2020
11:41:10am

re: Stamp Ranting

If you resent the time you spend on the hobby then you should quit doing it and find another way to spend your time. At times I find I don't have the patience to work on my stamp collection - I go to bed and read a book!!!

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08 Sep 2020
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re: Stamp Ranting

Truthfully, the last time I heard people "complain" about stamp collecting like that was in the... the... early 1980's? Whenever it was that all the tiny island nations started issuing 120 stamps a year, and British Commonwealth collectors hadn't yet figured out that they could just collect "Up to 1975" or whatever.

I can only echo what others have said: Hobbies are supposed to be time consuming — the entire POINT is that a hobby is "something to keep you occupied in your spare time" — and if it's no longer FUN, stop doing it!

I can empathize, though... I made the difficult choice to "end" my Denmark collection at 1990, when Danish post offices started closing and local town cancels went away, in favor of sprayed on "regional mail center" cancels.

But, to each their own!

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floradd

02 Dec 2020
01:43:55pm

re: Stamp Ranting

I started stamp collecting at age 72, so I knew I could never have a comprehensive collection. I decided to collect one country (a former British colony, b/c I liked the stamps). specialized covers from another, and respectful stamps of indigenous peoples from around the world. After reading your friend's rants, I am so glad I limited myself.

Buying the stamps is super fun, cataloging and recordkeeping not so much. Good luck to your friend. He got some very good advice from some of the other posters here.

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02 Dec 2020
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Floradd, thats the beauty of it..collect what means something to you...we do not have to follow the crowd.

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