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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : i really like covers

 

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21 Feb 2021
12:44:46pm

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i have a soft spot for covers...with U.S. covers its usually pre 1940...with worldwide covers its what appeals to the eye at the given moment.Image Not Found

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21 Feb 2021
01:33:34pm
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Me too!

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21 Feb 2021
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I just thought of something I would be very interested in seeing. One of my other major collectibles is Sandwich Glass from the Boston and Sandwich Glass Factory in Sandwich Mass. Does anyone have any interesting covers centered around that factory that you wouldn't mind posting a picture of? Actually, any of the older US glass factories (Northwood, Greentown, Findlay, etc.) would be of interest to me. I don't really want to start collecting them, I'm just curious what's out there. Not the newer places like Anchor Hocking, Corning, etc., just the older factories, mostly pre 1900.

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21 Feb 2021
02:17:32pm
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" i really like covers"



Me too, especially illustrated ones. I bought the first cover solely for the train illustration.

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21 Feb 2021
05:42:31pm

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21 Feb 2021
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21 Feb 2021
07:20:43pm
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Trains?

I just posted this one yesterday in my weekly ebay auction sale (closes Saturday Feb. 27):

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21 Feb 2021
10:21:17pm
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I am rather eclectic

One of my favorite advertising covers

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1793 Congressional free frank - Thomas Tredwell (3rd Congress)_ - personal letter to wife

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Interesting horseshoe receiver from Oriskany Falls NY

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Fancy leaf cancel on margin strip of 3 #65's

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21 Feb 2021
10:34:57pm

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Great covers, glad i started the thread...keep it going !

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21 Feb 2021
11:16:46pm
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Ah, covers! That's where it's at... Without franked envelopes philately would be nothing at all.
I really enjoy looking at covers (Buckacover.com is a great provider of stock) and if I can afford them, then, I buy them.
As soon as my new printer gets installed, I'll share two or three of my precious covers.
In the meantime CONGRATULATIONS Phil for a wonderful thread: A great idea!
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22 Feb 2021
12:46:12am
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Eye candy

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22 Feb 2021
12:52:44am
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This thread may go forever.................


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22 Feb 2021
09:16:19am
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Here's a recent acquisition to my Chester County (PA) postal history collection:
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This one requires some interpretation. Sarah (Gilbert) Scattergood was the wife of Thomas Scattergood, who was (I think) a nephew of another Thomas Scattergood, the one that founded the Scattergood Institute (for mental health) in Philadelphia.

Street Road, PA was DPOed in 1880, but the building (a RR depot) that housed it still stands, just south of the county seat, West Chester. This PO was about 2 miles southeast of the Westtown School, a Quaker academic institution for young boys and girls founded in 1799, and still in operation today. From 1859, when the Street Road PO opened to serve it, the School assessed an additional 2 cents postage for outgoing mail, payment indicated by the small local adhesive stamp seen on the reverse of the cover. These are prized by local collectors.

I spent most of a day attempting to determine the reason for this mailing. Around 1869, Sarah Scattergood had 2 brothers-in-law and a sister-in-law who served on the Committee, responsible for running the school. She herself was a former student, along with her two brothers and her father. Conveniently, the roster of former students with their entry dates (Quaker-formatted, of course) is an eBook. It is littered with Gilberts and Scattergoods, down through the years, from the very beginnings of the school... There were a number of Scattergood cousins living in West Chester, and the Gilberts were also local.

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22 Feb 2021
12:05:07pm
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Some staining on this one, but the price was right. I found it in a dealer's dollar box at a Texas stamp show a couple of years ago. I refer to it as the Trumpeter Squirrel cover.

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22 Feb 2021
01:17:12pm
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I love the one with the squirrel - our antique show was called Squirreled Away Antiques!!

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22 Feb 2021
02:00:57pm

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He looks like the #&!$%% that eats the sunflower seeds i put out for the birds !

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22 Feb 2021
05:35:04pm
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This one will probably change the way you feel about covers.

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22 Feb 2021
05:49:31pm
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Since this topic is trending more towards illustrated covers, here's an acquisition from a few months ago:
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Gotta love it that someone named "Bacon" is selling bacon.
Kinda reflects the place I'm currently in with my career...I work with a number of purveyors whose families have been in the business for generations.

And, Vince, check out the fancy Maltese cross obliterator!
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22 Feb 2021
08:19:34pm
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More eye candy

Just a front but it made it very affordable

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Scarce small town (Taberg NY) DL octagon

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22 Feb 2021
09:42:47pm

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And the stamp is one of my favorites ! Oils, cordage and belting ...thats when people worked for a living !

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22 Feb 2021
10:17:44pm
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I have recently begun collecting US covers and postcards with "Dayton" (my last name) postmarks, and this one came up on my radar. Hopefully in a few more days, I will have it in my collection!
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23 Feb 2021
02:47:17pm
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For partsguy.

I don't think I have posted these Dayton covers at SoR in the past. My apologies if it's a duplication. I no longer have either. This first one had contents. The second cover was one of a small group of associated covers and I think this one contained the letter. I think there are a few other old covers around here still.

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23 Feb 2021
03:26:20pm
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Some covers from Costa Rica....

1. Lovely postmarks for Official Mail from Puntarenas.

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2. This cover is from an amateur radio operator. His licence number is TI 2 QP. Note the colours from the flag and the coat-of-arms.

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3. This is the front and back of a small cloth bag. It was mailed to New York City with sample coffee beans inside.

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Enjoy!

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23 Feb 2021
06:56:34pm
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I really like covers too!

• Trans-Canada Lockheed Electra, the same plane flown by Amelia Earhart when she disappeared in the Pacific Ocean on her round-the-world flight:

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• A homemade cover featuring a cutout image of the Douglas DC-2 airliner, the precursor of the famous DC-3. Note the post office number written into the aircraft's cabin windows (BOX-234, and the rubber-stamped name of the sender (CHAS. L.V. BOOREAM) on the starboard wing:

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• A first-flight cover with a spectacular image of the Lockheed Constellation. In 1963, I had the memorable experience of flying to Japan from Travis Air Force Base near San Francisco for my first posting in the U.S. Navy. Twenty-six hours in the air, including about an hour when I got to sit in the co-pilot's seat between California and Hawaii:

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23 Feb 2021
09:09:30pm
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keesindy,

I especially liked that Erie, PA rose cover... (I'm about 45 minutes from Erie)

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23 Feb 2021
09:27:14pm

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If this was a full cover and not just the front...i am pretty sure i would not own it.

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23 Feb 2021
09:38:53pm
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How police work was done in 1910:

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23 Feb 2021
10:28:56pm
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Covers from far, and farther.

Postcard from Liberia sent by German Seapost.
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Registered cover from the North West Pacific Islands (under Australian administration)
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24 Feb 2021
01:08:49pm
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This is a fabulous thread - but I need to understand the concept of Pluto "Concentrated" Spring Water. Happy

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24 Feb 2021
01:36:01pm
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Many thanks to Wikipedia via duckduckgo:

Pluto Water - Wikipedia

[b]Pluto Water was a trademark for a strongly laxative natural water product which was very popular in the United States in the early 20th century. The water's laxative properties were from its high native content of mineral salts, with the active ingredient listed as sodium and magnesium sulfate, which are known as natural laxatives.[/b]


Pluto Water, French Lick Springs, Indiana. Posted on September 6, 2019 According to Wikipedia, "Pluto Water was a trademark for a strongly laxative natural water product which was very popular in the United States in the early 20th century.
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Famous Pluto Spring, French Lick, Indiana. "The Home of Pluto Water" Description: Visitors often posed in front of the Pluto Spring House located at the French Lick Springs Resort. The hotel pampered its guests who were often seeking what they believed to be curative powers of the mineral springs.
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Today:
Voted Best Hotel in Indiana by Travel & Leisure Magazine, French Lick Resort is family-friendly, business-competent and perfect for a planned or impromptu getaway. Come experience Old World opulence amid modern comforts served with Midwestern charm — close to home. We're an easy drive from Louisville, Indianapolis and Cincinnati.
Source: frenchlick.com

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Jeredutt3

24 Feb 2021
03:19:56pm
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This is such a great thread !!! OH how I love covers !!!!! The illustrated ones are amazing !

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24 Feb 2021
04:02:49pm
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Germany, Offices in Turkey

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24 Feb 2021
07:36:30pm
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June 21, 1919 military flight. Identical cover sold in May 2013 David Feldman auction. And yes, it is philatelic, but still a bit unusual. First flight was on June 20th.

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25 Feb 2021
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25 Feb 2021
06:40:14pm

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love the TRAIN LATE Antonio.....

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25 Feb 2021
08:50:16pm
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I collect covers from US Senators... Daniel Patrick Moynihan represented New York in the Senate from 1977 to 2001

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26 Feb 2021
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and now he dominates the building that used to house the NYC GPO, the James A Farley building, that now houses Amtrak

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26 Feb 2021
05:21:14pm
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ArtStamp, thanks for the info on Pluto Water. I still find using the term "concentrated" for water is unusual, unless you consider not to drink too much due to the laxative effects!
Another notable from French Lick is Larry Bird, of Celtics fame. Sounds like an interesting town.

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26 Feb 2021
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Since this is the week, I thought I'd post this one! One of my favorite Ben Franklin covers, and it appears to have occurred by chance!

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26 Feb 2021
10:14:54pm
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I like the Feb 29 receiving mark.

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27 Feb 2021
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Following up on the Pluto Water cover and comments....... This resort in southern Indiana was accessible by rail and was a very popular attraction a century ago. Original hotels have been refurbished and a casino added. The domed West Baden Springs Hotel is a National Historic Landmark.

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27 Feb 2021
01:23:02pm

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Two of my favorite covers are from the 1945 to 1949 Indonesian revolutionary period, they have obviously been through the mill....only postal cards were used..no letters or covers.Image Not Found

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27 Feb 2021
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This is the second one...i feel fortunate to have them.Image Not Found

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27 Feb 2021
03:51:36pm
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Very nice postcards, Phil.

David

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27 Feb 2021
05:39:08pm
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1840's stampless from Montevideo, Uruguay to London.

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28 Feb 2021
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Not stampless but still pretty !Image Not Found

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28 Feb 2021
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Picked this up a while back, nothing special but it appealed to me. Postmarked on reverse Pretoria 14/12/1938. A few toning spots.
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28 Feb 2021
03:50:56pm
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Not a beautiful cover, but interesting. Perfined stamp on cover.

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28 Feb 2021
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One of my favorite Franklin covers! This is Scott 314, the imperf issue.

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28 Feb 2021
05:27:23pm
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Sheepshanks,

I'd call that cover fairly special, not just for the stamps and cover, but just LOOK AT THAT handwriting! I like SA stuff to begin with, but there's just something that draws the eye to the perfectly linear address!

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28 Feb 2021
07:45:29pm

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I have a few covers of the Trekkers...Image Not Found

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28 Feb 2021
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i have one like Sheepshanks...this is the backside.Image Not Found

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01 Mar 2021
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State postage on local cover from Noria to Magdalena in the state of Sonora, Mexico.

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01 Mar 2021
01:39:58pm
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Phil, those are beauties, too.... but I think they cheated by TYPING the address!!!

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01 Mar 2021
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01 Mar 2021
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The SA and SWA variants have absolved you, Phil!Big Grin

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01 Mar 2021
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By crackie you are right, one is South Africa and one SWA!!

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02 Mar 2021
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Mail in the Ultramar (Cuba).

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02 Mar 2021
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Antonio, i have 2 or 3 from this time frame...i would like to see them go to a good home.Image Not Found

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04 Mar 2021
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Feudatory State of Cochin
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04 Mar 2021
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I do like a cover that tells or just starts a story. Below is a 1964 letter from Jim Thompson's company to I'm guessing a customer in San Fransisco. Thompson was the post war Thai silk king bringing the material to haute couture designers in the west. Probably best known for supplying the material used in the The King and I film although he was thought to have continued his OSS intelligence work on to working for for the CIA. His disappearance in Malaysia's Cameron Highlands three years later is still a mystery which pops up in the news every few years. Here is Jim Thompson's Wikipedia entry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Thompson_(designer)

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04 Mar 2021
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This one makes me smile. The double impression of the date stamp looks like 1953 which would be right as it's a 1953/4 aerogramme or air letter cut out stuck on an envelope by someone in London going to an address in Singapore while it was still part of Malaya. I'm guessing that it was for a letter under 20g but whether this was legal I'm not sureHappy

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04 Mar 2021
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First day and Event cover for visit of Lindbergh to Panama and the Canal Zone. The stamps were the two commemorative stamps issued for the visit. They were printed using typography by the Canal Zone for Panama.
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05 Mar 2021
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Just a commercial cover from the North German Confederation.
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06 Mar 2021
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A bilingual Bulgarian "advertising" cover.
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Early Auto Show - 1896. Horse and Horseless Carriage and Roads Locomotion Exhibition. "Received without contents ....." marking. Lawrence Fitzgerald was founder and President of the Cortland Wagon Company.

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06 Mar 2021
06:32:01pm
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Saw this interesting cover on Ruby Lane a few minutes ago. Someone might be interested. Excuse for not taking the time to make the link live. Just highlight it and check it out - combination of 1936 Olympics and the Hindenburg.

https://www.rubylane.com/item/429-col-16085/Airship-Hindenburg-Olympic-Games-1936-Flight?search=1&t=6a1f97be

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09 Mar 2021
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So interesting all those wonderful covers. I have one prior to postage stamps. On the cover it is sent by Pay Pony. It reads addressee: ILFRACOMBE NOVEMBER 1ST 1829: MESSRS DRUMMOND. CHARING CROSS. LONDON, BOTTOM LEFT READS : LOTHIAN. No 1
DRUMMONDS WERE THE FORERUNNERS OF ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND.
THE MARQUESS OF LOTHIAN WAS A CUSTOMER OF MESSRRS DRUMMONDS.
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09 Mar 2021
11:07:04am
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That's not "Pay Pony"

Rolling On The Floor Laughing

it's "Pay 1d Only"

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Don't laugh Roy....."PayPony" was a short-lived, pre-internet payment and delivery service that used horse and rider to dispatch correspondence in England's Old West.
It only cost 1d for the postage, but PayPony took and additional tuppence as their "cut". Some things never change!

All kidding aside, I think that cover is VERY cool. Of course, I also love old books, so the Charing Cross address earns extra bonus points....

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10 Mar 2021
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Cover sent from the Special Fair Post Office.

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Postal card from the Princely State of Kishangarh.

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One of my much loved SS Bremen covers

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The reverse of a signed Byrd "Little America" expedition cover

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love that early international special D cover by identified liner. VERY nice indeed.

I couldn't read the Australian hand cancel on the final cover; can you write it out, please.

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David, I collect SS Bremen covers and that's a favourite.

The wording on the last cover is "Underpaid. Postage Collected From Sender".

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I found this cover and thought it was an interesting social engineering experiment on the part of the Australian postal department.

The cover front:

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On the back was stamped this message, sort of shaming the sender of the mail item and encouraging the recipient to mail the envelope back to the sender as proof that they made a mistake.

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For those who may find this hard to read it says, "Will you kindly return this envelope to your correspondent and advise him that postage on letters to your country 3d per oz., (2d) each additional oz."

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14 Mar 2021
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Interesting slogan cancel on that Australia to US cover too, smauggie!

MINIMUM LETTER RATE
TO USA 3D
ADDRESSEE PAYS
DOUBLE...

(can't read the rest).

Message in slogan cancel is kind of lost on the sender, by the time it is applied.

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The last word of the slogan is "deficiency".

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A whopper from South Africa!

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A whopper from the US!

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A whopper from Australia!

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A whopper from Gold Coast!

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Pondicherry, French India partially prepaid and fumigated cover to France

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OK, smauggie, I'll bite.

How can you tell it's a fumigated cover?
And what was the disease of concern?

Let me guess (in order of likelihood):

Plague?
Malaria?
Yellow Fever?

Fumigation wouldn't help much for any of those, unless the fumigant was insecticidal. Even then, it would not be very efficient.

Fumigation was a measure that was more widely used towards the end of the 19th century, and sulfur dioxide was a common fumigant. If it smells bad, it must be powerful.

-Paul

PS, after doing some googling, it was probably cholera. India was notorious because of the massive incidence rates of cholera, dragging on through time. Spread through contaminated drinking water. Not really amenable to control through fumigation. However, the term "fumigation" had a more general definition in the era, more akin to the word "disinfection".

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It is hard to say what exactly was used to "fumigate" the cover. Conversations I have had with postal history experts indicate that a wide variety of mostly ineffective substances were used including plain old blowing some smoke on/through the cover.

You can tell it was intentionally fumigated because of the two slits cut into the cover I have highlighted with red rectangles.

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Here is a link to a six frame exhibit on Disinfected Mail.

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Interesting!

I had not noticed the slits cut into the cover.

Vince, I did find that exhibit earlier, but noticed it does not cover 1840s mail from India to Europe.

There are a lot of articles about cholera spilling out of India beginning about 1831. It was said that cholera from India circled the globe SIX times! Western Europe went kind of crazy trying to exclude diseases (like cholera) in the mid-19th century that it was utterly incapable of excluding.

This was in an era when the "miasma" theory of disease still predominated. It was not until Dr. John Snow removed the Broad Street pump handle in London in 1854 to stop the cholera epidemic that this theory really began to come into question!

-Paul

PS, I did find a discussion of mail fumigation that stated that paper is not capable of transmitting most diseases, and so fumigation of mail would have had no impact. Except for smallpox, which can definitely be transmitted by paper. It was said that simply passing a hot flatiron across the paper would be effective at killing smallpox virus.


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Here's a couple from my Netherlands Indies/Indonesian collection.
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Some interesting handwritten notations on an early Australian airmail cover. I may have posted this a year or two ago.

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British Nigeria registered mail order (which likely included a cash payment). Likely they would have to wait a few months before the parcel got back to them.

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Finally received this one in the mail today! It was being sold by a postcard dealer merely as a postcard of the Ohio Building in Toledo, Ohio. I was floored when I pulled up the image of the postal side! A few bucks... even the losers get lucky sometimes!

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Wow....did YOU luck out, or what?!?

Nice goin', Tom!


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Cover postmarked in Liechtenstein, then taken to Switzerland and shot off via Rocket Mail, then sent through the normal postal system to the USA.

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The latest in fashion trends in Los Angeles in 1905 on a leather postcard:

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Cover from the British Administration of Palestine.
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@ BenFranklin: Your card was carried by LZ 127.
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I recently bought a card very similar to yours and am now beginning to wonder if they originally came from the same source.

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Here's one of a few leather postcards I have (my favorite):
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Gold Coast underpaid KGV cover.

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Private mail letter sheet from Berlin. Mail service in this case was provided by the company Berliner Packetfahrt Aktiengesellschaft. There were a proliferation of private mail services throughout Germany in the latter 19th century (literally hundreds of them).

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Smauggie Read the full story here about that company

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=27259#190737

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smauggie....NICE...not your run of the mill cover !

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Sometimes you get a chuckle when sorting through the old covers! I wonder if he wrote out the check the same way?


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And the smile you get when you turn over a ho hum cover and find this on the back!

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When i got out of the service i worked for Beneficial Finance..looking back its a wonder i was not killed. I imagine Househole finance is pretty much the same gig 18 percent interest but the people probably forgot what they did with the money.

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I'm going to repost this cover, because it's my favorite German Inflation cover:
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This was one of the first German Inflation covers I collected, and it inspired me to put together a nearly "complete" collection for the 16 different rate periods in 1923 Germany, in letter and postcard rates, domestic and international. This is a very fun and exciting collecting area, as there is a wide variety of stuff in the marketplace, with a wide range of pricing. And, you frequently find some quite fantastic covers!

Anyhoo, what intrigues me most about this cover is that it was posted on November 10, 1923, from Munich. That, you may recall is the Saturday after the "Beer Hall Putsch", which occurred on Friday, November 9, in Munich. Hitler was slapped with a 5-year jail sentence for his involvement in this affair, wherein he wrote Mein Kampf.

The cover was apparently sent by one Dr. Ernst Boepple, who was a prolific anti-Semitic publisher (buchhandlung) during the rise of the Nazis. According to wikipedia, he "was deeply implicated in the Final Solution..." I can find no reference describing Boepple's involvement in the Munich Beer Hall Putsch. The primary instrument of the Nazis via Hitler during this period was NOT Boepple's Deutscher Volks Verlag, it was the Völkischer Beobachter.

The addressee is Waldemar Heldt, who ran a well known publishing company in Hamburg. Our Jan Simon says he was still in business right after the war, so it is doubtful that he was "deeply implicated" in any Nazi plotting. Nevertheless, it is intriguing and spooky to consider what the contents of this letter might have been, given the timing and the people involved.

I love making stories up about covers, and the story I make up about this one is that Boepple was at the end of his rope, and was reaching out to the publishing community to rescue him in the aftermath of the failed Putsch. He was probably knocking on the wrong door with Heldt... We may never know.

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PS, Phil, congratulations on starting such a popular topic! Keep 'em coming!

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Phil- the company is “Household Finance”. I can just picture this illiterate sailor thinking it was Househole.

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I was just trying to keep the joke going...i remember Household Finance....we did not have anything extra with my meager paycheck and 3 little kids..but never that desperate to go to a finance co. Pigdoc, i hope the thread keeps on going with not too many interruptions from me. One the guys in our stamp club is a semi retired veterinarian, he only likes to work with large animals...cows are his favorite.

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I really like covers with mixed franking. Here is one with 9d postage to pay the airmail rate from Hamilton to the USA, along with a 10 cent US Special Delivery stamp taking it onwards from Baltimore to New Haven. Most likely flown aboard PanAm's Bermuda Clipper service, which began on March 17, 1938 - just two weeks prior to this cover leaving Bermuda.

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Here's another Bermuda cover with mixed franking. This time a paquebot cover posted aboard the S/S Patricia, a Swedish flagged passenger ship that plied the New York to Bermuda route for a few seasons in the early 1950s. I think it may be redundant that this cover bears both a 1 1/2d Bermuda stamp (SG 137) and a 10 ore Swedish stamp (SG SE318). Based on international UPU conventions the Swedish stamp should have sufficed.

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Nice, one of our late club members was a huge Bermuda fan, Don Stephens..he published a book on the early postcards of Bermuda !

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Me too!

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I just thought of something I would be very interested in seeing. One of my other major collectibles is Sandwich Glass from the Boston and Sandwich Glass Factory in Sandwich Mass. Does anyone have any interesting covers centered around that factory that you wouldn't mind posting a picture of? Actually, any of the older US glass factories (Northwood, Greentown, Findlay, etc.) would be of interest to me. I don't really want to start collecting them, I'm just curious what's out there. Not the newer places like Anchor Hocking, Corning, etc., just the older factories, mostly pre 1900.

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Me too, especially illustrated ones. I bought the first cover solely for the train illustration.

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Trains?

I just posted this one yesterday in my weekly ebay auction sale (closes Saturday Feb. 27):

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I am rather eclectic

One of my favorite advertising covers

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1793 Congressional free frank - Thomas Tredwell (3rd Congress)_ - personal letter to wife

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Interesting horseshoe receiver from Oriskany Falls NY

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Fancy leaf cancel on margin strip of 3 #65's

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Great covers, glad i started the thread...keep it going !

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Ah, covers! That's where it's at... Without franked envelopes philately would be nothing at all.
I really enjoy looking at covers (Buckacover.com is a great provider of stock) and if I can afford them, then, I buy them.
As soon as my new printer gets installed, I'll share two or three of my precious covers.
In the meantime CONGRATULATIONS Phil for a wonderful thread: A great idea!
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Eye candy

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Here's a recent acquisition to my Chester County (PA) postal history collection:
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This one requires some interpretation. Sarah (Gilbert) Scattergood was the wife of Thomas Scattergood, who was (I think) a nephew of another Thomas Scattergood, the one that founded the Scattergood Institute (for mental health) in Philadelphia.

Street Road, PA was DPOed in 1880, but the building (a RR depot) that housed it still stands, just south of the county seat, West Chester. This PO was about 2 miles southeast of the Westtown School, a Quaker academic institution for young boys and girls founded in 1799, and still in operation today. From 1859, when the Street Road PO opened to serve it, the School assessed an additional 2 cents postage for outgoing mail, payment indicated by the small local adhesive stamp seen on the reverse of the cover. These are prized by local collectors.

I spent most of a day attempting to determine the reason for this mailing. Around 1869, Sarah Scattergood had 2 brothers-in-law and a sister-in-law who served on the Committee, responsible for running the school. She herself was a former student, along with her two brothers and her father. Conveniently, the roster of former students with their entry dates (Quaker-formatted, of course) is an eBook. It is littered with Gilberts and Scattergoods, down through the years, from the very beginnings of the school... There were a number of Scattergood cousins living in West Chester, and the Gilberts were also local.

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Some staining on this one, but the price was right. I found it in a dealer's dollar box at a Texas stamp show a couple of years ago. I refer to it as the Trumpeter Squirrel cover.

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I love the one with the squirrel - our antique show was called Squirreled Away Antiques!!

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He looks like the #&!$%% that eats the sunflower seeds i put out for the birds !

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This one will probably change the way you feel about covers.

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Since this topic is trending more towards illustrated covers, here's an acquisition from a few months ago:
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Gotta love it that someone named "Bacon" is selling bacon.
Kinda reflects the place I'm currently in with my career...I work with a number of purveyors whose families have been in the business for generations.

And, Vince, check out the fancy Maltese cross obliterator!
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More eye candy

Just a front but it made it very affordable

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Scarce small town (Taberg NY) DL octagon

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And the stamp is one of my favorites ! Oils, cordage and belting ...thats when people worked for a living !

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22 Feb 2021
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I have recently begun collecting US covers and postcards with "Dayton" (my last name) postmarks, and this one came up on my radar. Hopefully in a few more days, I will have it in my collection!
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For partsguy.

I don't think I have posted these Dayton covers at SoR in the past. My apologies if it's a duplication. I no longer have either. This first one had contents. The second cover was one of a small group of associated covers and I think this one contained the letter. I think there are a few other old covers around here still.

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Some covers from Costa Rica....

1. Lovely postmarks for Official Mail from Puntarenas.

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2. This cover is from an amateur radio operator. His licence number is TI 2 QP. Note the colours from the flag and the coat-of-arms.

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3. This is the front and back of a small cloth bag. It was mailed to New York City with sample coffee beans inside.

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23 Feb 2021
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I really like covers too!

• Trans-Canada Lockheed Electra, the same plane flown by Amelia Earhart when she disappeared in the Pacific Ocean on her round-the-world flight:

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• A homemade cover featuring a cutout image of the Douglas DC-2 airliner, the precursor of the famous DC-3. Note the post office number written into the aircraft's cabin windows (BOX-234, and the rubber-stamped name of the sender (CHAS. L.V. BOOREAM) on the starboard wing:

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• A first-flight cover with a spectacular image of the Lockheed Constellation. In 1963, I had the memorable experience of flying to Japan from Travis Air Force Base near San Francisco for my first posting in the U.S. Navy. Twenty-six hours in the air, including about an hour when I got to sit in the co-pilot's seat between California and Hawaii:

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I especially liked that Erie, PA rose cover... (I'm about 45 minutes from Erie)

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23 Feb 2021
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Covers from far, and farther.

Postcard from Liberia sent by German Seapost.
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Registered cover from the North West Pacific Islands (under Australian administration)
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This is a fabulous thread - but I need to understand the concept of Pluto "Concentrated" Spring Water. Happy

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24 Feb 2021
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Many thanks to Wikipedia via duckduckgo:

Pluto Water - Wikipedia

[b]Pluto Water was a trademark for a strongly laxative natural water product which was very popular in the United States in the early 20th century. The water's laxative properties were from its high native content of mineral salts, with the active ingredient listed as sodium and magnesium sulfate, which are known as natural laxatives.[/b]


Pluto Water, French Lick Springs, Indiana. Posted on September 6, 2019 According to Wikipedia, "Pluto Water was a trademark for a strongly laxative natural water product which was very popular in the United States in the early 20th century.
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Famous Pluto Spring, French Lick, Indiana. "The Home of Pluto Water" Description: Visitors often posed in front of the Pluto Spring House located at the French Lick Springs Resort. The hotel pampered its guests who were often seeking what they believed to be curative powers of the mineral springs.
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Voted Best Hotel in Indiana by Travel & Leisure Magazine, French Lick Resort is family-friendly, business-competent and perfect for a planned or impromptu getaway. Come experience Old World opulence amid modern comforts served with Midwestern charm — close to home. We're an easy drive from Louisville, Indianapolis and Cincinnati.
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24 Feb 2021
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This is such a great thread !!! OH how I love covers !!!!! The illustrated ones are amazing !

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June 21, 1919 military flight. Identical cover sold in May 2013 David Feldman auction. And yes, it is philatelic, but still a bit unusual. First flight was on June 20th.

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love the TRAIN LATE Antonio.....

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I collect covers from US Senators... Daniel Patrick Moynihan represented New York in the Senate from 1977 to 2001

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and now he dominates the building that used to house the NYC GPO, the James A Farley building, that now houses Amtrak

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ArtStamp, thanks for the info on Pluto Water. I still find using the term "concentrated" for water is unusual, unless you consider not to drink too much due to the laxative effects!
Another notable from French Lick is Larry Bird, of Celtics fame. Sounds like an interesting town.

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Since this is the week, I thought I'd post this one! One of my favorite Ben Franklin covers, and it appears to have occurred by chance!

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26 Feb 2021
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I like the Feb 29 receiving mark.

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27 Feb 2021
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Following up on the Pluto Water cover and comments....... This resort in southern Indiana was accessible by rail and was a very popular attraction a century ago. Original hotels have been refurbished and a casino added. The domed West Baden Springs Hotel is a National Historic Landmark.

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Very nice postcards, Phil.

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27 Feb 2021
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1840's stampless from Montevideo, Uruguay to London.

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Picked this up a while back, nothing special but it appealed to me. Postmarked on reverse Pretoria 14/12/1938. A few toning spots.
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Not a beautiful cover, but interesting. Perfined stamp on cover.

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One of my favorite Franklin covers! This is Scott 314, the imperf issue.

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28 Feb 2021
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Sheepshanks,

I'd call that cover fairly special, not just for the stamps and cover, but just LOOK AT THAT handwriting! I like SA stuff to begin with, but there's just something that draws the eye to the perfectly linear address!

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State postage on local cover from Noria to Magdalena in the state of Sonora, Mexico.

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01 Mar 2021
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Phil, those are beauties, too.... but I think they cheated by TYPING the address!!!

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The SA and SWA variants have absolved you, Phil!Big Grin

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By crackie you are right, one is South Africa and one SWA!!

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Mail in the Ultramar (Cuba).

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Feudatory State of Cochin
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04 Mar 2021
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I do like a cover that tells or just starts a story. Below is a 1964 letter from Jim Thompson's company to I'm guessing a customer in San Fransisco. Thompson was the post war Thai silk king bringing the material to haute couture designers in the west. Probably best known for supplying the material used in the The King and I film although he was thought to have continued his OSS intelligence work on to working for for the CIA. His disappearance in Malaysia's Cameron Highlands three years later is still a mystery which pops up in the news every few years. Here is Jim Thompson's Wikipedia entry.

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This one makes me smile. The double impression of the date stamp looks like 1953 which would be right as it's a 1953/4 aerogramme or air letter cut out stuck on an envelope by someone in London going to an address in Singapore while it was still part of Malaya. I'm guessing that it was for a letter under 20g but whether this was legal I'm not sureHappy

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First day and Event cover for visit of Lindbergh to Panama and the Canal Zone. The stamps were the two commemorative stamps issued for the visit. They were printed using typography by the Canal Zone for Panama.
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Just a commercial cover from the North German Confederation.
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A bilingual Bulgarian "advertising" cover.
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Early Auto Show - 1896. Horse and Horseless Carriage and Roads Locomotion Exhibition. "Received without contents ....." marking. Lawrence Fitzgerald was founder and President of the Cortland Wagon Company.

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Saw this interesting cover on Ruby Lane a few minutes ago. Someone might be interested. Excuse for not taking the time to make the link live. Just highlight it and check it out - combination of 1936 Olympics and the Hindenburg.

https://www.rubylane.com/item/429-col-16085/Airship-Hindenburg-Olympic-Games-1936-Flight?search=1&t=6a1f97be

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So interesting all those wonderful covers. I have one prior to postage stamps. On the cover it is sent by Pay Pony. It reads addressee: ILFRACOMBE NOVEMBER 1ST 1829: MESSRS DRUMMOND. CHARING CROSS. LONDON, BOTTOM LEFT READS : LOTHIAN. No 1
DRUMMONDS WERE THE FORERUNNERS OF ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND.
THE MARQUESS OF LOTHIAN WAS A CUSTOMER OF MESSRRS DRUMMONDS.
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That's not "Pay Pony"

Rolling On The Floor Laughing

it's "Pay 1d Only"

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Don't laugh Roy....."PayPony" was a short-lived, pre-internet payment and delivery service that used horse and rider to dispatch correspondence in England's Old West.
It only cost 1d for the postage, but PayPony took and additional tuppence as their "cut". Some things never change!

All kidding aside, I think that cover is VERY cool. Of course, I also love old books, so the Charing Cross address earns extra bonus points....

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Cover sent from the Special Fair Post Office.

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Postal card from the Princely State of Kishangarh.

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One of my much loved SS Bremen covers

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The reverse of a signed Byrd "Little America" expedition cover

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KUT 1935 Silver Jubilee cover


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love that early international special D cover by identified liner. VERY nice indeed.

I couldn't read the Australian hand cancel on the final cover; can you write it out, please.

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David, I collect SS Bremen covers and that's a favourite.

The wording on the last cover is "Underpaid. Postage Collected From Sender".

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I found this cover and thought it was an interesting social engineering experiment on the part of the Australian postal department.

The cover front:

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On the back was stamped this message, sort of shaming the sender of the mail item and encouraging the recipient to mail the envelope back to the sender as proof that they made a mistake.

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For those who may find this hard to read it says, "Will you kindly return this envelope to your correspondent and advise him that postage on letters to your country 3d per oz., (2d) each additional oz."

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Interesting slogan cancel on that Australia to US cover too, smauggie!

MINIMUM LETTER RATE
TO USA 3D
ADDRESSEE PAYS
DOUBLE...

(can't read the rest).

Message in slogan cancel is kind of lost on the sender, by the time it is applied.

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The last word of the slogan is "deficiency".

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A whopper from South Africa!

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A whopper from the US!

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A whopper from Australia!

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A whopper from Gold Coast!

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Pondicherry, French India partially prepaid and fumigated cover to France

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16 Mar 2021
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OK, smauggie, I'll bite.

How can you tell it's a fumigated cover?
And what was the disease of concern?

Let me guess (in order of likelihood):

Plague?
Malaria?
Yellow Fever?

Fumigation wouldn't help much for any of those, unless the fumigant was insecticidal. Even then, it would not be very efficient.

Fumigation was a measure that was more widely used towards the end of the 19th century, and sulfur dioxide was a common fumigant. If it smells bad, it must be powerful.

-Paul

PS, after doing some googling, it was probably cholera. India was notorious because of the massive incidence rates of cholera, dragging on through time. Spread through contaminated drinking water. Not really amenable to control through fumigation. However, the term "fumigation" had a more general definition in the era, more akin to the word "disinfection".

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It is hard to say what exactly was used to "fumigate" the cover. Conversations I have had with postal history experts indicate that a wide variety of mostly ineffective substances were used including plain old blowing some smoke on/through the cover.

You can tell it was intentionally fumigated because of the two slits cut into the cover I have highlighted with red rectangles.

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16 Mar 2021
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Here is a link to a six frame exhibit on Disinfected Mail.

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Interesting!

I had not noticed the slits cut into the cover.

Vince, I did find that exhibit earlier, but noticed it does not cover 1840s mail from India to Europe.

There are a lot of articles about cholera spilling out of India beginning about 1831. It was said that cholera from India circled the globe SIX times! Western Europe went kind of crazy trying to exclude diseases (like cholera) in the mid-19th century that it was utterly incapable of excluding.

This was in an era when the "miasma" theory of disease still predominated. It was not until Dr. John Snow removed the Broad Street pump handle in London in 1854 to stop the cholera epidemic that this theory really began to come into question!

-Paul

PS, I did find a discussion of mail fumigation that stated that paper is not capable of transmitting most diseases, and so fumigation of mail would have had no impact. Except for smallpox, which can definitely be transmitted by paper. It was said that simply passing a hot flatiron across the paper would be effective at killing smallpox virus.


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Here's a couple from my Netherlands Indies/Indonesian collection.
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Some interesting handwritten notations on an early Australian airmail cover. I may have posted this a year or two ago.

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British Nigeria registered mail order (which likely included a cash payment). Likely they would have to wait a few months before the parcel got back to them.

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Finally received this one in the mail today! It was being sold by a postcard dealer merely as a postcard of the Ohio Building in Toledo, Ohio. I was floored when I pulled up the image of the postal side! A few bucks... even the losers get lucky sometimes!

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Wow....did YOU luck out, or what?!?

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Cover postmarked in Liechtenstein, then taken to Switzerland and shot off via Rocket Mail, then sent through the normal postal system to the USA.

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20 Mar 2021
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The latest in fashion trends in Los Angeles in 1905 on a leather postcard:

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Cover from the British Administration of Palestine.
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21 Mar 2021
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@ BenFranklin: Your card was carried by LZ 127.
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I recently bought a card very similar to yours and am now beginning to wonder if they originally came from the same source.

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21 Mar 2021
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Here's one of a few leather postcards I have (my favorite):
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21 Mar 2021
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Gold Coast underpaid KGV cover.

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24 Mar 2021
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Private mail letter sheet from Berlin. Mail service in this case was provided by the company Berliner Packetfahrt Aktiengesellschaft. There were a proliferation of private mail services throughout Germany in the latter 19th century (literally hundreds of them).

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26 Mar 2021
02:19:42pm

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Smauggie Read the full story here about that company

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=27259#190737

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26 Mar 2021
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smauggie....NICE...not your run of the mill cover !

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07 Apr 2021
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Sometimes you get a chuckle when sorting through the old covers! I wonder if he wrote out the check the same way?


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And the smile you get when you turn over a ho hum cover and find this on the back!

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07 Apr 2021
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When i got out of the service i worked for Beneficial Finance..looking back its a wonder i was not killed. I imagine Househole finance is pretty much the same gig 18 percent interest but the people probably forgot what they did with the money.

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07 Apr 2021
06:27:40pm

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I'm going to repost this cover, because it's my favorite German Inflation cover:
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This was one of the first German Inflation covers I collected, and it inspired me to put together a nearly "complete" collection for the 16 different rate periods in 1923 Germany, in letter and postcard rates, domestic and international. This is a very fun and exciting collecting area, as there is a wide variety of stuff in the marketplace, with a wide range of pricing. And, you frequently find some quite fantastic covers!

Anyhoo, what intrigues me most about this cover is that it was posted on November 10, 1923, from Munich. That, you may recall is the Saturday after the "Beer Hall Putsch", which occurred on Friday, November 9, in Munich. Hitler was slapped with a 5-year jail sentence for his involvement in this affair, wherein he wrote Mein Kampf.

The cover was apparently sent by one Dr. Ernst Boepple, who was a prolific anti-Semitic publisher (buchhandlung) during the rise of the Nazis. According to wikipedia, he "was deeply implicated in the Final Solution..." I can find no reference describing Boepple's involvement in the Munich Beer Hall Putsch. The primary instrument of the Nazis via Hitler during this period was NOT Boepple's Deutscher Volks Verlag, it was the Völkischer Beobachter.

The addressee is Waldemar Heldt, who ran a well known publishing company in Hamburg. Our Jan Simon says he was still in business right after the war, so it is doubtful that he was "deeply implicated" in any Nazi plotting. Nevertheless, it is intriguing and spooky to consider what the contents of this letter might have been, given the timing and the people involved.

I love making stories up about covers, and the story I make up about this one is that Boepple was at the end of his rope, and was reaching out to the publishing community to rescue him in the aftermath of the failed Putsch. He was probably knocking on the wrong door with Heldt... We may never know.

-Paul

PS, Phil, congratulations on starting such a popular topic! Keep 'em coming!

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07 Apr 2021
07:16:24pm

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Phil- the company is “Household Finance”. I can just picture this illiterate sailor thinking it was Househole.

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07 Apr 2021
09:13:37pm

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I was just trying to keep the joke going...i remember Household Finance....we did not have anything extra with my meager paycheck and 3 little kids..but never that desperate to go to a finance co. Pigdoc, i hope the thread keeps on going with not too many interruptions from me. One the guys in our stamp club is a semi retired veterinarian, he only likes to work with large animals...cows are his favorite.

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20 Apr 2021
12:44:33pm

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I really like covers with mixed franking. Here is one with 9d postage to pay the airmail rate from Hamilton to the USA, along with a 10 cent US Special Delivery stamp taking it onwards from Baltimore to New Haven. Most likely flown aboard PanAm's Bermuda Clipper service, which began on March 17, 1938 - just two weeks prior to this cover leaving Bermuda.

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20 Apr 2021
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Here's another Bermuda cover with mixed franking. This time a paquebot cover posted aboard the S/S Patricia, a Swedish flagged passenger ship that plied the New York to Bermuda route for a few seasons in the early 1950s. I think it may be redundant that this cover bears both a 1 1/2d Bermuda stamp (SG 137) and a 10 ore Swedish stamp (SG SE318). Based on international UPU conventions the Swedish stamp should have sufficed.

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20 Apr 2021
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Nice, one of our late club members was a huge Bermuda fan, Don Stephens..he published a book on the early postcards of Bermuda !

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