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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Quarantine matters

 

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philb
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02 Apr 2021
02:31:29pm

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03 Apr 2021
06:11:25am

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It really does matter ,you should see what travellers try to bring into Australia ,plants they dug up out their garden stick it in a bag with the soil and beetles still attached and put in their baggage some of the stuff they confiscate is very expensive to buy and isn't allowed into Australia.The thing is 99% of them do not declare it ,if they did they would still get it taken off them but because they don't declare it they cop a several hundred dollar fine into the bargain.
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03 Apr 2021
07:37:54am
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Sometimes it could get silly. We took a smallish survey boat from Singapore to Portland in Victoria. That was our first stop in Australia to change over to an Australian marine crew. In Singapore we had provisioned with frozen meat which was either Australian or New Zealand which was rather silly in hindsight. The customs made us put it all in a skip and buy again in Portland. The poor Salvation Army girl who I think must have run a seaman's mission was heartbroken as she said there were people in the town who couldn't afford such quality meat. (No, I don't know the answer.)

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

03 Apr 2021
08:27:52am

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We have to be careful in what we send as Birthday and Christmas presents to my son and his partner in Sydney because of their quarantine rules.

They are quite right in limiting what goes into the country as something like Foot and Mouth disease would devastate their farming.

Here in the UK I have lived through 2 F & M outbreaks and it is heart breaking to see a Herd of cows that have taken a lifetime of breeding destroyed and half a dozen pillars of smoke in a valley as the bodies are being burnt. (Not a pretty sight or smell)

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03 Apr 2021
09:33:20am
re: Quarantine matters

Many years ago, during a foot and mouth outbreak in the UK, we went from the UK to visit my sister in Spain. As normal we said is there anything we can bring with us, some hot dogs was the reply.
So off to the store pick up a couple of packs of dogs, produced and vacuum packed in Austria, imported into UK. Get to airport, and had to throw them away as not allowed to be exported because they were a meat product!
Despite pointing out that they were not a UK meat product, jobs worth decrees they had to be dumped.
Sometimes the rules or maybe the people who interpret them are just plain daft.

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pigdoc

03 Apr 2021
10:15:26am
re: Quarantine matters

Don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole here, but you guys are right up in my wheelhouse. In my current career, I spend the majority of my time managing animal product imports and exports.

Some perspective:
Concerns over containing "Foreign Animal Disease" drive much of the regulatory initiative.

Animal products moved into or out of most countries must be accompanied by a certificate of 'health'. These are issued on an individual basis for each shipment. There are office buildings full of people seeing to it that the attestations on the certificates are in accordance with the rules.

When an individual citizen attempts to move a regulated material into another country, they're completely outside that infrastructure, even if it was legally imported, because traceability (back to a legal certificate) is no longer possible at that point.

Hence, the confiscation. Pretty simple. The intolerance is very easily justified on economic grounds by the potential consequences.

The FADs of principle concern right now are FMD and African Swine Fever, both rampant in China, among other areas, both readily moved in meat products. ASF virus can survive for months in cured pork. An ASF outbreak in the US is projected to cost $50 billion to the swine industry over the first 10 years. That's not counting the cost to taxpayers of its control, which as implied, will stretch over at least a 10-year horizon. 3 years ago, before ASF, China's swine industry was 5X the size of the industry in the US. Now, it's about the same size as the US industry, and faltering badly. At least 100 million pigs have died from ASF in China.

-Paul

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03 Apr 2021
12:44:26pm
re: Quarantine matters

Sheepshanks:

You are not permitted to bring ANY meat into Canada. That's been a rule for decades. Fresh fruit and vegetables as well.

David
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03 Apr 2021
01:03:32pm
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You are not permitted to bring any fruits and veggies or even plants from Newfoundland to mainland Canada. They have a type of plant disease , a type of potato bug, I think, that they want to keep in Newfoundland. We used to bring fresh berries back in coolers that the inspectors turned a blind eye to. We brought back slate to make a walk in our back yard and we power washed it with hot water first. It was still not allowed to be brought into NS, but we made it safe. If I'm wrong about any of this please let me know!

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03 Apr 2021
01:17:33pm
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"You are not permitted to bring ANY meat into Canada"


Which is a pity because I'd love to have some decent English Lincolnshire or Cumberland Sausages, even decent Easter eggs, bacon, proper fresh fruit that actually still has juice left, sadly I shall only get these when I get a holiday in the UK.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

03 Apr 2021
06:34:07pm

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Back in the '70's when I worked in Northern Alberta my boss, a Scot, and I walked into our local Cinema and there on a shelf was a box of Tunnocks Caramel Wafers. (A chocolate biscuit made in Uddingston Scotland.)
Sandy my boss hadn't had one for a number of years. We asked if that was the only box they had, they had two. We bought both boxes.
While everyone else were eating popcorn Sandy and I were munching Tunnocks Caramel Wafers! Sheer Bliss!!

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02 Apr 2021
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03 Apr 2021
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re: Quarantine matters

It really does matter ,you should see what travellers try to bring into Australia ,plants they dug up out their garden stick it in a bag with the soil and beetles still attached and put in their baggage some of the stuff they confiscate is very expensive to buy and isn't allowed into Australia.The thing is 99% of them do not declare it ,if they did they would still get it taken off them but because they don't declare it they cop a several hundred dollar fine into the bargain.
Brian

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DannyS

03 Apr 2021
07:37:54am

re: Quarantine matters

Sometimes it could get silly. We took a smallish survey boat from Singapore to Portland in Victoria. That was our first stop in Australia to change over to an Australian marine crew. In Singapore we had provisioned with frozen meat which was either Australian or New Zealand which was rather silly in hindsight. The customs made us put it all in a skip and buy again in Portland. The poor Salvation Army girl who I think must have run a seaman's mission was heartbroken as she said there were people in the town who couldn't afford such quality meat. (No, I don't know the answer.)

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
03 Apr 2021
08:27:52am

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re: Quarantine matters

We have to be careful in what we send as Birthday and Christmas presents to my son and his partner in Sydney because of their quarantine rules.

They are quite right in limiting what goes into the country as something like Foot and Mouth disease would devastate their farming.

Here in the UK I have lived through 2 F & M outbreaks and it is heart breaking to see a Herd of cows that have taken a lifetime of breeding destroyed and half a dozen pillars of smoke in a valley as the bodies are being burnt. (Not a pretty sight or smell)

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sheepshanks

03 Apr 2021
09:33:20am

re: Quarantine matters

Many years ago, during a foot and mouth outbreak in the UK, we went from the UK to visit my sister in Spain. As normal we said is there anything we can bring with us, some hot dogs was the reply.
So off to the store pick up a couple of packs of dogs, produced and vacuum packed in Austria, imported into UK. Get to airport, and had to throw them away as not allowed to be exported because they were a meat product!
Despite pointing out that they were not a UK meat product, jobs worth decrees they had to be dumped.
Sometimes the rules or maybe the people who interpret them are just plain daft.

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pigdoc

03 Apr 2021
10:15:26am

re: Quarantine matters

Don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole here, but you guys are right up in my wheelhouse. In my current career, I spend the majority of my time managing animal product imports and exports.

Some perspective:
Concerns over containing "Foreign Animal Disease" drive much of the regulatory initiative.

Animal products moved into or out of most countries must be accompanied by a certificate of 'health'. These are issued on an individual basis for each shipment. There are office buildings full of people seeing to it that the attestations on the certificates are in accordance with the rules.

When an individual citizen attempts to move a regulated material into another country, they're completely outside that infrastructure, even if it was legally imported, because traceability (back to a legal certificate) is no longer possible at that point.

Hence, the confiscation. Pretty simple. The intolerance is very easily justified on economic grounds by the potential consequences.

The FADs of principle concern right now are FMD and African Swine Fever, both rampant in China, among other areas, both readily moved in meat products. ASF virus can survive for months in cured pork. An ASF outbreak in the US is projected to cost $50 billion to the swine industry over the first 10 years. That's not counting the cost to taxpayers of its control, which as implied, will stretch over at least a 10-year horizon. 3 years ago, before ASF, China's swine industry was 5X the size of the industry in the US. Now, it's about the same size as the US industry, and faltering badly. At least 100 million pigs have died from ASF in China.

-Paul

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DavidG

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03 Apr 2021
12:44:26pm

re: Quarantine matters

Sheepshanks:

You are not permitted to bring ANY meat into Canada. That's been a rule for decades. Fresh fruit and vegetables as well.

David
Ottawa, Ont.

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Harvey

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03 Apr 2021
01:03:32pm

re: Quarantine matters

You are not permitted to bring any fruits and veggies or even plants from Newfoundland to mainland Canada. They have a type of plant disease , a type of potato bug, I think, that they want to keep in Newfoundland. We used to bring fresh berries back in coolers that the inspectors turned a blind eye to. We brought back slate to make a walk in our back yard and we power washed it with hot water first. It was still not allowed to be brought into NS, but we made it safe. If I'm wrong about any of this please let me know!

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sheepshanks

03 Apr 2021
01:17:33pm

re: Quarantine matters

"You are not permitted to bring ANY meat into Canada"


Which is a pity because I'd love to have some decent English Lincolnshire or Cumberland Sausages, even decent Easter eggs, bacon, proper fresh fruit that actually still has juice left, sadly I shall only get these when I get a holiday in the UK.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
03 Apr 2021
06:34:07pm

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re: Quarantine matters

Back in the '70's when I worked in Northern Alberta my boss, a Scot, and I walked into our local Cinema and there on a shelf was a box of Tunnocks Caramel Wafers. (A chocolate biscuit made in Uddingston Scotland.)
Sandy my boss hadn't had one for a number of years. We asked if that was the only box they had, they had two. We bought both boxes.
While everyone else were eating popcorn Sandy and I were munching Tunnocks Caramel Wafers! Sheer Bliss!!

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