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popeye56

07 Mar 2013
10:22:07am
Some years back, I had an older friend (he has passed)who sent me an envelope with the Elvis 29 cent US # 2731 stamp on it. What made it rather unique is that the envelope has the signature of the stamps artist on it. Turns out, the artist was a close friend of his family. He also stated in the letter that he had 20 of these done to hand out. Is there any value for such as this?

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07 Mar 2013
10:38:22am
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Yes, they do go for a premium. I don't know how much added value there would be for this. You could check around on other selling sites and see what they are being offered for. Better if you could find out what they were selling for, though, for the truer market value.

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21 Mar 2013
04:31:27pm
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Now if it were signed by Elvis.....

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22 Mar 2013
11:43:15am
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Especially if he signed it yesterday!

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23 Mar 2013
02:25:43am
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Reminds me of the story about Farley's Follies. He would pull the first sheets of commemoratives, autograph them and give them to Roosevelt and other political cronies. He also presented them to his children. The children took the autographed sheets to a dealer to sell. The game was up and collectors were writing Congress complaining that they had no chance to own these rarities. The sheets less autographs were reissued to public. Farley eventually lost his job.

Judging by the number of sheets on the market today, I have a feeling that the "public" was really the dealers. They probably did most of the writing as well. And what about artist autographed Hunting Permit stamps?
When I started collecting I decided to limit my collection to U.S. because those stamps were issued for moving the mail, not for collectors to buy. Oh well.........

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23 Mar 2013
07:09:36am
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Remember the song "Money, Money, Money" from Caberet? "...Money makes the world go 'round, the world go 'round, the world go 'round..."

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23 Mar 2013
02:18:44pm
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It wasn't just the signatures, his and Roosevelt's in the selvedge, the special Farley sheets were pulled during the process before the sheets were gummed and proper perforations applied.That made then obviously different from post office vended examples and holy stamp hell ensued. To remedy the situation the sheets were reprinted and made available for several months so that the rarity quotient was diluted and today there are about twenty issues of the mid-thirties that are still available, cheap, both perfed and imperf.
Keep in mind that sheets can and were gummed or the gum soaked off of examples that had original gum. Farley later resigned to run for the presidency in 1940, but of course stepped aside when Roosevelt chose to run for a third term. I don't think he resigned over this imbroglio, but if he did it was a part of the political manipulation of the 1940 election season.


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25 Nov 2013
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i guess i am fortunate to have two artists in my neighborhood that designed U.S. stamps!Image Not Found

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25 Nov 2013
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Perhaps the better known of the two is James Gurney of Dinotopia fame !Image Not Found

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25 Nov 2013
10:32:18pm
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Speaking of James A Farley..

I have seemed to develop a collection of Farlies. find myself bidding on almost anything connected with the sheets. Here are a few of the items I have managed to get.

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The letter contains embossing at the top to identify it as from the PMG and the envelope (not shown) is postmarked March 12, 1938 and is franked with a copy of Scott 798, the Constitution Sesquicentennial Issue.

George (aka biggeorge)

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26 Nov 2013
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Thank you for posting those images, George, as I am always
interested in what other stamp collectors acquire. Your "farlies" are neat.

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popeye56

07 Mar 2013
10:22:07am

Some years back, I had an older friend (he has passed)who sent me an envelope with the Elvis 29 cent US # 2731 stamp on it. What made it rather unique is that the envelope has the signature of the stamps artist on it. Turns out, the artist was a close friend of his family. He also stated in the letter that he had 20 of these done to hand out. Is there any value for such as this?

Robbin

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michael78651

07 Mar 2013
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re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

Yes, they do go for a premium. I don't know how much added value there would be for this. You could check around on other selling sites and see what they are being offered for. Better if you could find out what they were selling for, though, for the truer market value.

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21 Mar 2013
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re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

Now if it were signed by Elvis.....

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22 Mar 2013
11:43:15am

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Especially if he signed it yesterday!

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23 Mar 2013
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re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

Reminds me of the story about Farley's Follies. He would pull the first sheets of commemoratives, autograph them and give them to Roosevelt and other political cronies. He also presented them to his children. The children took the autographed sheets to a dealer to sell. The game was up and collectors were writing Congress complaining that they had no chance to own these rarities. The sheets less autographs were reissued to public. Farley eventually lost his job.

Judging by the number of sheets on the market today, I have a feeling that the "public" was really the dealers. They probably did most of the writing as well. And what about artist autographed Hunting Permit stamps?
When I started collecting I decided to limit my collection to U.S. because those stamps were issued for moving the mail, not for collectors to buy. Oh well.........

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23 Mar 2013
07:09:36am

re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

Remember the song "Money, Money, Money" from Caberet? "...Money makes the world go 'round, the world go 'round, the world go 'round..."

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke"

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
23 Mar 2013
02:18:44pm

re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

It wasn't just the signatures, his and Roosevelt's in the selvedge, the special Farley sheets were pulled during the process before the sheets were gummed and proper perforations applied.That made then obviously different from post office vended examples and holy stamp hell ensued. To remedy the situation the sheets were reprinted and made available for several months so that the rarity quotient was diluted and today there are about twenty issues of the mid-thirties that are still available, cheap, both perfed and imperf.
Keep in mind that sheets can and were gummed or the gum soaked off of examples that had original gum. Farley later resigned to run for the presidency in 1940, but of course stepped aside when Roosevelt chose to run for a third term. I don't think he resigned over this imbroglio, but if he did it was a part of the political manipulation of the 1940 election season.


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25 Nov 2013
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i guess i am fortunate to have two artists in my neighborhood that designed U.S. stamps!Image Not Found

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25 Nov 2013
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Perhaps the better known of the two is James Gurney of Dinotopia fame !Image Not Found

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25 Nov 2013
10:32:18pm

re: Envelope with signature of stamp artist have extra value?

Speaking of James A Farley..

I have seemed to develop a collection of Farlies. find myself bidding on almost anything connected with the sheets. Here are a few of the items I have managed to get.

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

The letter contains embossing at the top to identify it as from the PMG and the envelope (not shown) is postmarked March 12, 1938 and is franked with a copy of Scott 798, the Constitution Sesquicentennial Issue.

George (aka biggeorge)

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12:03:21am

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Thank you for posting those images, George, as I am always
interested in what other stamp collectors acquire. Your "farlies" are neat.

John Derry

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