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Life is a tough Teacher, it gives you the test first and the lesson later.
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I will refrain from posting a comment....
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If you think ok of it, you have an excellent conversation piece about philatelic tomfoolery. Hope you got it out of the dollar bin.
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so, here's the real deal, Phil
http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=7324#47400
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Phil, I have a bridge that you crossed awhile back, ya want to buy it. LOL
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Philb: At least you did not spend big $ for an early Xmas Seal on cover. One has to be very careful, to make sure, that early Xmas seals are "tied" to the cover or post card. Prices for 1907 to 1915 seals on cover are fairly high. Ted.
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Ted, true i paid very little for the card...but with tied Chrtistmas seals/stamps..i guess it depends on a lot of different things.. i have seen cards that i thought would cost much more with an asking price of 3 or 4 dollars. Also, i have had no experience trying to sell the tied cards.
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it's odd, but, yes, the higher prices are for the early issues, some of which, as untied seals, are pricey. Others, like the 1909, are inexpensive as seals, but pricey as tieds.
Our census indicates that these are also the most plentiful tieds. The 1909, for instance, has more recorded examples than any full decade from the 50s onward. Of course, this is a census, and is only as useful as the data sent in, but it does reflect both the seal collecting community and some of the major online auction offerings, so it's probably a decent sampling. It will likely be more accurate early rather than recent.
But Ted's observation, while correct, also reflects DEMAND, not supply. Supply for material from 50s onward seems absent, and so is demand.
As to pricing, Phil, it all depends. I often buy large lots of tied seals and pay between 1.50 and 3.00 per cover, depending on....... Single tied seals tend to go for more.
Seals to exotic places or with unusual markings can command higher prices, assuming there are knowlegeable collectors about; of course, the more things going on, the more potential collecting areas might bring bidders to the table.
glad we're having this discussion.
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nice one, Phil. The 16 is not an expensive seal (Scott prices em at $4 for the more common perf varieties; Greens starts em at $5; but then we all understand CV, and that's for a MNH copy). yours is nice because it's used in period, has the bonus flag machine cancel, While the 16s are cheaper than the other mid- and early-teens, they're rarer on cover. Demand is less.
Bring it some night to the auction or swap meet.
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when sorting through postcards i sometimes do not take a lot of time..i saw this one and said.."look someone used a Christmas label and it went through the mail". When home i took a closer look..the seal is a 1947...the postmark looks like it was from the 1930's..looks like the stamp was removed and replaced with a Christmas seal. Nobody wins em all !!!
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I will refrain from posting a comment....
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If you think ok of it, you have an excellent conversation piece about philatelic tomfoolery. Hope you got it out of the dollar bin.
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so, here's the real deal, Phil
http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=7324#47400
from another thread, now linked to its second previous thread
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Phil, I have a bridge that you crossed awhile back, ya want to buy it. LOL
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Philb: At least you did not spend big $ for an early Xmas Seal on cover. One has to be very careful, to make sure, that early Xmas seals are "tied" to the cover or post card. Prices for 1907 to 1915 seals on cover are fairly high. Ted.
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re: I think they took me on this postcard !!!
Ted, true i paid very little for the card...but with tied Chrtistmas seals/stamps..i guess it depends on a lot of different things.. i have seen cards that i thought would cost much more with an asking price of 3 or 4 dollars. Also, i have had no experience trying to sell the tied cards.
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re: I think they took me on this postcard !!!
it's odd, but, yes, the higher prices are for the early issues, some of which, as untied seals, are pricey. Others, like the 1909, are inexpensive as seals, but pricey as tieds.
Our census indicates that these are also the most plentiful tieds. The 1909, for instance, has more recorded examples than any full decade from the 50s onward. Of course, this is a census, and is only as useful as the data sent in, but it does reflect both the seal collecting community and some of the major online auction offerings, so it's probably a decent sampling. It will likely be more accurate early rather than recent.
But Ted's observation, while correct, also reflects DEMAND, not supply. Supply for material from 50s onward seems absent, and so is demand.
As to pricing, Phil, it all depends. I often buy large lots of tied seals and pay between 1.50 and 3.00 per cover, depending on....... Single tied seals tend to go for more.
Seals to exotic places or with unusual markings can command higher prices, assuming there are knowlegeable collectors about; of course, the more things going on, the more potential collecting areas might bring bidders to the table.
glad we're having this discussion.
David
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re: I think they took me on this postcard !!!
nice one, Phil. The 16 is not an expensive seal (Scott prices em at $4 for the more common perf varieties; Greens starts em at $5; but then we all understand CV, and that's for a MNH copy). yours is nice because it's used in period, has the bonus flag machine cancel, While the 16s are cheaper than the other mid- and early-teens, they're rarer on cover. Demand is less.
Bring it some night to the auction or swap meet.
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